what if it's 2249?
Time will tell in October 

hahah.
then 2199. 

China people talk cannot trust one, they bashing every phone. If you often read gfans forum then you know, any kind of weird issue also happen to them, and every brand phone got people bashing and their talk issue is only happen to them most the time. I only trust what their said problem is exist if the talk issue is face by lowyat member or XDA. If only happen to them, those is fake bashing.

From your given link:

• When I read 1st sentence said spec is fake, already give up continue read. Which part fake? The spec given is exactly the spec I seen it now.
  
• Another said what XiaoMi screen is crap, sorry lo, it is great panel, the IPS screen look awesome as HTC One or Xperia Z Ultra with accurate color reproduction  without single viewing angle issue.
  
• Then another said unstop restart, I use since Saturday until now, never face any auto restart or hang issue.
  
• Last said too lousy on delivery, this I not sure, but my friend ask his colleague buy at China, the delivery is pretty fast, within a week, his friend already get it.
  

walao eh still got people arguing XZ1 photo post processing sux etc meh...

for me if it can at least match up with lumia high end series (925 / 1020), it's already good enough for me.

http://unleashthephones.com/2013/09/14/gal...phy-comparison/

Firstly I am a noob when it comes to taking photos. I am only a point n click photographer.
So give me even a very good camera phone n the pics will not turn up excellent
I have compare all the shots I have taken in all my phones including iphone n seriously I cannot even say exactly which is best. My camera needs are simple : as long it turns up clear n not blur n colors look close to original subject I am already happy. The most I will share is just post on Facebook only.

any official release date for malaysia?

imo la, photo quality is also up to each person's preference, same goes to the screen quality and design. One man's blood is another man's poison. Some might like heavy post processing and some don't

Its good to show and voice out your own preference, but learn to respect other people's choices as well. And of course in the end you're the one happy with your own choice.

I have to admit im so in love in z1 now any cons that it have doesn't bother me (unless its a real serious 1). For example i admitted i do hate the large bezels, and also the viewing angle issues. Since sony able to solve it in XZU y cant they get rid of it once and for all in Z1? But it doesnt matter to me because i accept the cons

However i dont go around to other phone threads bashing other phones and also promoting Z1 like it have zero cons/the perfect phone.

Thanks ckchan

Xperia Z1 is Lossless Digital Zoom, similar idea as Nokia 808. This is great selling point but Sony never mention it!

Sample photos here - http://unleashthephones.com/2013/09/12/gal...ahru-singapore/

I know what you mean but nowdays it is already proven also bigger MP doesnt mean bad as long as got appropriate imaging processing. Look at Nikon D800/800s with 36MP. It is proven it capture more details and awesome photos and also par with Canon 5D M III who has lower MP.

As for me, skill come first la. Don't care what your camera can do. As long as you yourself know what your camera can do

But guess camera nowdays make user life easy and they more like "what the camera can do for me" than "I have this camera, what photos can I produce with this camera?"

Ok just saying

That siggy is 4 years ago. Long time history 

Yeah, ditto bro. Ditto.
Haha, what you say is true also lah. Actually I do think all phone camera is awesome. I just talk rubbish because of  andrewtst say lossless zoom is not crop

Can sense,  haha!

Phone is for easier and never for enthusiasm photographer. Normal user will appreciate the great zoom output.

optical zoom > lossless digital zoom > digital zoom

but the main disadvantage of optical zoom is size eg: S4 zoom
price haven't even confirm, don't think anyone would take the risk

Optical Zoom - the best but not practical for mobile, they is no need second S4 zoom appear.

Lossless Digital Zoom - you get a decent zoom and usable in mobile, welcome feature.

Digital Zoom - having it equal to not having it, the quality is too crap for usage.

Dynamics distributor had a post on Facebook Z1 price is 2399.

Got free smart watch or qx10 like UK then i dont mind 2399 la, infact i will be the 1st to buy.

Otherwise 2399 is a bit steep

not interested at least you can sell away the freebies and get extra cash, like rebate

satu gadget sell 2,599 , available 20th ( which tomorrow )

bundle with yr lanci-ness to get the phone b4 every1 else

a lot of people here are willing to pay this premium...

but I don't think it is worth it la for a Sony because if people see it also say "oh, is that the new Samsung"? 

Z1 almost same size as Note 3

the screen size?
z1 not same size with s4?

Juz comes with dock only...