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 engine question, 4A-GE vs 4G93?

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post May 26 2006, 02:27 AM

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4G93 .. 1.8 version of mitsu engines
4G92 .. 1.6 version
4G91 .. 1.5

dunno much about the DOHC 4G93 .. 4G93T turbo version is around 6k nowadays .. for manual .. halfcut along..
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post May 26 2006, 01:08 PM

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yeap .. if u have the money .. why not go for the 4G92 DOHC Mivec version .. half cut should be around 5.5k .. but the fuel efficiency isnt that good for this version because of its short gear .. for high RPM ..

4G92 Mivec claim to be around 175 bhp .. for a 1.6
4AGE 16v DOHC .. around 130bhp
4AGE 20v DOHC . around 160bhp

those are juz figures... cannot proof anything unless tested.. smile.gif

but if are comparing a 4G93 (1.8) .. 4G93 DOHC produce only 140bhp .. but the torque is high.. damn nice to drive... smile.gif
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post May 27 2006, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ May 27 2006, 12:47 AM)
very BIG diffrence? now i'm on 4G15, do i need to go jpj for inspection again? considering both also 1.5 tongue.gif
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once u change the engine .. yes.. uneed inspection
there is a Big difference 4G15 and 4G91 ..

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post May 27 2006, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ May 27 2006, 10:00 AM)
in term of power, there is no big difference .... except that 4G91 had better peak power. that's why it had more hp.
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my bad... blush.gif

personally i've driven 4G13, 4G15, 4G92 (SOHC), 4G93 DOHC
never really driven a 4G91 ..
so i tot a 4G9x family should have better power compare to 4G15 .. tongue.gif
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post May 27 2006, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 27 2006, 02:45 PM)
I didn't drive 4G13 and 4G93 b4
I wanna feel the power of 4g93....XD
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I have one! tongue.gif
with mivec throttle body flex.gif
hehe
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post May 27 2006, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ May 27 2006, 07:34 PM)
can anybody answer me?
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bhp can't be calculate one .. they need to be tested . CORRECT me if im wrong
but u can calculate cc .

u can also change KW to bhp ... ----> kw/0.746 = bhp

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post May 27 2006, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 27 2006, 03:22 PM)
BRO, LET ME DRIVE FOR 1 DAY XD
I pay rental XD
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once u taste the power .. u will hunger for one .. tongue.gif
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post May 28 2006, 04:35 AM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 28 2006, 04:14 AM)
U take me for a ride also can liao tongue.gif
How much is ur 4G93 NA outputting?
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Dunno . not tested! hahaha..

long story lar... something wrong with my original TB .. so i go Halfcut shop buy another one ... damn lucky to get a Mivec one.. yet cheap... installed d ... 1 word .. wah lau eh .... even the intake magnifoid not bore yet .. but can feel the difference d... if got money i go bore ! .. more power .. lolz..

but i dun wan it to drink too much fuel .. tats why dun wan mod too much .. blush.gif

currently enuf for my daily driving .. not too fuel consuming .. very happy with it..
fresh graduate le.. no money .. no job yet .. haha laugh.gif

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post May 28 2006, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 28 2006, 02:21 PM)
Fresh graduate but you got 4G93 liao, I want that engine also cannot afford leh tongue.gif
Me only 4G92 SOHC, planning to go MIVEC 1 smile.gif
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got the car from my part time work saving .. rclxms.gif
hardwork ler... hehe blush.gif
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post May 29 2006, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ May 29 2006, 12:22 AM)
there is lil bit i dun understand sweat.gif
is changing throtle body = changing engine?
coz u said u r using 4G93 but in the quote above, u wrote u buy TB? lil bit confused here sweat.gif
n what is bore?
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Throttle body is juz a small part of the intake magnifoid lar.. the actual size of my car TB is 54mm .. i change to 60mm one .. so it has better fuel intake .. thus better fuel response.. so when u pedal little it will be more sensitive .. thus it will reverb higher easier .. coz the engine breath easier.. nothing to do with the engine itself.

Bore is the diameter for the Piston .. and stroke is the distance it travel from highest point to the lowest point.
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post May 29 2006, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ May 29 2006, 09:44 AM)
u said u using 4G93? or previously u already changed?
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ouch ..

4G93 is the engine ...
TB is the throttle body ...

im still using 4G93 ... previously also 4G93 ..
wat i change is the intake throttle body .. i didnt touch the engine.. sweat.gif
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post May 29 2006, 01:15 PM

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Lets clear things up a bit .
Thats what i have change...
nothing to do with my engine.

*Red color valve cover just cosmetic look .. wont increase speed tongue.gif

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post May 29 2006, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 29 2006, 01:30 PM)
His car is a Putra, which already uses 4G93P

k3nnykl82: Wow, your engine bay still looks very clean, if you were to see mine, dust like crap XD
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to me its quite dirty d.... lots of dust covering the brake pump .. the alarm siren .. battery ... dare not take to those engine wash .. later got wet susah.. blush.gif
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post May 30 2006, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(malyadayada @ May 30 2006, 11:47 AM)
last year dyno 4G93 i got 104.5 whp..
done it at links....
agreed wit antonio the engine do play a vital role to the engine...
either u can chose torque or hp......chose wisely
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so low ?
was the car maintain well ? any modification?
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post May 30 2006, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 30 2006, 01:09 PM)
I expect 4G93 at least 120BHP on wheel
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tat is wat i expect too ..for its spec is 138bhp on flywheel
on the wheel i do expect around 120bhp
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post May 30 2006, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(malyadayada @ May 30 2006, 02:46 PM)
hurm the exhaust was a standard 1.5....
minor tuning....
no modss blush.gif
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now now now, the exhaust is the main problem for the low bhp .. no wonder.. hehe
air is restricted ler dude.. biggrin.gif
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post May 30 2006, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(malyadayada @ May 30 2006, 03:23 PM)
kekekkee...but lovely response though just decarbonize the car n it's runnin well.... need to replace the hydraulic lifters n walah no more 'mesin jahit' sound kekekkeke
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dude, those hydraulic lifters are darn expensive lar.. around RM40++ each .. u have 16 of those .. makes up to RM700 ~ 800 .. not include installation yet ..
my mech told me, it is okie if got mesin jahit sound .. juz annoying but it wont hurt .. not worth to change .. thats what he told me lar.. my hydraulic lifter sometimes got sound .. tongue.gif

change ur exhaust to a suitable one .. then u will feel better bhp .. throttle to mivec one .. u'll love it !>. heheh
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post May 30 2006, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 30 2006, 07:21 PM)
If in wirs, I dunno wether JPJ will approve or not

Oh I totally forgot about east Malaysia, I meant mostly in peninsular
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im frm sabah, as i know, many fellas modify their car dun register one.. hahaha
coz i got a fren wo did so .. with his bunch of frens.. they says.. keep low profile .. no kacau one .. lolz

btw, my fren 4AG-ZE into his 120Y .. then mod this that this that .. i also donno d lar
haha

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post May 30 2006, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Sim (2) @ May 30 2006, 11:01 PM)
all these times.. i haven't saw anyone put a 4A-GE in a saga nor wira.. because usually jpj will not approve them..

LOL.. i'm sure everybody will LOL when someone said he has what so call "Initial-D spec" in his car.. that guy must be a newbie to modifying cars.. laugh.gif
usually they won't approve it.. smile.gif
i'm sure u are not talking about my friends because i have some friends who did that and they have a full register on their own cars.. usually they put 4A-GE on corolla and AE86.. some old cars does approve.. smile.gif
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im sure not talking bout ur fren .. its my fren .. hehe
his car engine mods are too much .. to extensive .. his father is a JayPeeJay officer have quite a rank in my hometown also can't approve his car .. laugh.gif
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post May 31 2006, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(malyadayada @ May 31 2006, 09:44 AM)
bout the exhaust part i prefer the 1.5 bcoz it is so damn quiet ... silence is golden....kekeke biggrin.gif ... the throttle body from my research the perdana SEi has the biggest diameter bout 62mm...quite hard to find though anyhow need to replace my brake pads it givin me sound.....
yurp agreed wit gonna try it out on my next service....thanx biggrin.gif
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im not too sure bout the SEi throttle body as ppl told me mivec one only biggrin.gif
im currently using the mivec throttle .. the response all i can say, damn good.

my car, originally 1.8 .. the exhaust system aint noisy at all la.. its damn quiet too!.. hehe .. i dun like noisy exhaust too .. thats why i still keep the original muffer as well, twin pipe they call it .. laugh.gif

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