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TristanX
post Jul 15 2020, 09:33 AM

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Planning to upgrade my DIY NAS/home server.

Pentium G5420 - 249
Asrock Z390 Pro4 - 489

My casing can store 10 HDDs
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post Jan 7 2021, 02:49 PM

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Just bought Seagate Ironwolf Pro 8TB. Very fast for a HDD. Primocache off and on test.

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post Jan 9 2021, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jan 8 2021, 09:57 PM)
That is fast. Got good price for it?
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Not really. Got it for RM1279.
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post Jan 9 2021, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(cHaRsIeWpAu^^ @ Jan 9 2021, 12:44 PM)
hi guys.

i want to buy a NAS to store my movies, photos and backup.

what model should i looking to?

should i state my budget and estimated storage i want?

below 2k, around 2tb.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 9 2021, 02:47 PM)
That is too small budget and size. Save more.

Just movie alone is killing your storage size. You not keeping 480p movie right.
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Can. Custom build NAS. Use FreeNAS or other OS.

Pentium G6400 - 239
Gigabyte H470 HD3 - 599
8GB DDR4-3200 - 159
Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 550W - 239
Fractal Design Define 7 (up to 14 HDD) case - 699
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post Jan 9 2021, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(cHaRsIeWpAu^^ @ Jan 9 2021, 02:56 PM)
thanks. the ds220+ seems promising.
ohh, i tot 2k is sufficient .
actually i more focus on the photos, movies wise just extra if storage is limited.
do you know any seller doing this kind of customized build NAS?
im very lazy to set up and learn from zero hahaha.
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Nope. Its not hard to assemble PC anyway. Got plenty of videos for it.
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post Jan 9 2021, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(cHaRsIeWpAu^^ @ Jan 9 2021, 03:11 PM)
may i know what's the advantage to have freenas vs inbuilt OS like synology? confused.gif
sorry ya if i asked too stupid question. tongue.gif
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Pros:
A lot cheaper.
You can do whatever you want. Like hosting the website yourself, or setup game server.
CPU and RAM upgradeability
M.2 PCIE or SATA support
Amount of HDD you can install.
Can transform it into regular PC.
Expansion like SATA cards, Thunderbolt, Video capture cards.

Cons:
Hardware assembly required
Setting up OS takes time. Usually only one time setup.
Consumes a bit more power. (if you think 20ish watts idle from the wall on Pentium 6400 is too much)
Casing can get very big

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post Mar 30 2021, 04:30 PM

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Just added Primocache to my DIY NAS.

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Seagate Ironwolf Pro 8TB with that.
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post Jun 26 2021, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jun 20 2021, 10:02 PM)
These days open source NAS's OS also more easier to set up that makes it almost as easy as prebuilt NAS. To stay ahead prebuilt NAS offer multitude of apps so that it's functions extend beyond just network's storage.

I just tried Synology's Note Station as I want to use less of Google's apps, before this I use Keep. I was surprised that Note Station is very features rich. I thought it was just simple note taking like Keep. Formatting is rich like One Note, can even embed youtube video in note. Notes can be organized in folder and sub folder and also support tagging and searching. It's really an underrated app.
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Yup, I got a massive NAS with 50TB+ of space. Upgrading to Z590 with Intel 2.5Gbps LAN soon as well. Triple M.2 slots for webhosting files!

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jun 26 2021, 11:29 AM)
Your NAS dedicated as NAS only or also use for PC? So much processing power feel waste if just for NAS.
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NAS and personal server.
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post Jun 28 2021, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Jun 27 2021, 11:56 PM)
Just curios when you said Personal Server is not VM is it  sweat.gif
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Web server, DLNA server, NAS. i7-6700T on it. It can handle some abuse.
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post Jun 29 2021, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Jun 29 2021, 05:43 PM)
I just thinking of setup Windows VM on my NAS as ad-hoc usage... still looking into the details  sweat.gif
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Today you can get i3-10100 for custom NAS. Get mobo with lots of expansion like H570 or Z590.

Core i3-10100 or i5-11400 - 479/839
Scythe Mugen 5 - 218 (stock cooler is junk)
MSI Z590-A Pro - 769
8GB DDR4-3200 X2 - 219 X2
PNY CS3030 500GB - 359
Cougar GX-S Gold 550W - 349
Fractal Design Meshify 2 or XL (XL can install crapload of HDD) case - 619/800?

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post Jul 1 2021, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Jul 1 2021, 12:56 PM)
Nice with coming holiday more time to upgrade  icon_rolleyes.gif

Ouch "DSM 7.0 for FS, SA, XS/XS+, and DVA series models are currently under development and will be available in the next quarter."
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I just change CPU and mobo for mine. Probably add 10Gbps network card.
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post Jul 7 2021, 09:28 AM

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Victim of WD Mybook Live malware.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5166372
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post Jan 30 2022, 05:22 PM

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10 ports SATA card.
https://shopee.com.my/ACASIS-PCIe-Expansion...61-73bf2de17dfa

lol. DIY NAS got more interesting.

Next gen DIY NAS
Pentium G7400 or Core i3-12100 299/599 (estimated)
MSI Z690-A Pro - 937
8GB DDR4-3200 - 149
10 ports SATA card - 234
Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 550W - 239
Fractal Meshify 2 XL case (18 HDD) - 898

Optional:
10G network card - 419 ( https://shopee.com.my/TP-LINK-TX401-10-Giga...da-e9c3720a4367 )

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QUOTE(puifah @ Feb 8 2022, 04:23 PM)
10 port SATA card for this brand price is too expensive...taobao can get it at less than rm100
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That's cool. I don't browse taobao so I don't know.
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post Mar 6 2022, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Mar 6 2022, 12:49 PM)
DS1520+ is 3k

If budget but new build
Chasis RM530
CPU + mobo RM1200
RAM 8GB RM150
PSU RM300
SSD RM150 (for OS)
Total RM2330

Pros: Cheaper, sleek casing, modularity, can choose what OS to put

Cons: Have to manually install and configure OS, don't have first party integrated apps (depends on individual preference)

If just for network storage with RAID, media server and backup functions, I think custom build will be better choice. If use a lot of apps, using first party means less time spent on finding the suitable app and tinker with it. A lot of open source apps is only on web browser, it didn't have mobile app. Enthusiast will get more satisfaction from custom build, if want something with less work and time tinkering, pre-built will be better.
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As of today, it is cheaper.

Pentium G7400 or Core i3-12100 - 299/599
Asus TUF H570 Pro - 820
8GB DDR4-3200 - 139
Corsair MP510 480GB - 329
Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 550W - 239
24 HDD Chia mining case - 349/499
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post Mar 6 2022, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Mar 6 2022, 08:35 PM)
looks good but, any option to add ddr4 16gb ecc ram for use in truenas?  hmm.gif  any recommendation for that type build.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/eyp5f...ecc_to_ecc_ram/
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ECC needs AMD. AMD setup isn't power efficient. I'm pretty sure TrueNAS works fine with normal DDR4.
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Mar 8 2022, 11:14 AM)
Anyone did a lower power build?

These custom build NAS are cheap but most of the recommendations revolve around using ATX PSU which are not efficient at idle power.

My main Alder Lake rig is 50W idle and I have a 80plus Bronze 650W PSU.
50W @ 55sen tier means this thing will consume Rm240 of electricity per year if left to run for 24/7

A DS420 consumes almost 5x less.
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I got i3-10100 with single M.2, 1 7200rpm HDD and 1 SATA SSD. Consumes 20ish watts idle with FSP 450W SFX. Higher end boards consume more power.

How many SATA ports you need?
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Mar 8 2022, 11:58 AM)
20w at the wall right?
I only need around 4 ports. Pretty much most motherboards will work i think.
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Yes, off the wall

https://tristx.asuscomm.com/10100.mp4

Try

Core i3-10100 - 499
Asrock B560M-ITX/ac - 448

or

Core i3-12100 - 589
Asrock B660M-ITX/ac - 569

8GB DDR4-3200 - 150
Corsair MP510 480GB - 329
FSP SFX 450W - 249
Fractal Design Node 304 - 379

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post Mar 23 2022, 09:14 PM

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Upgraded my NAS.

Core i3-12100
Noctua NH-L12S
Asus Prime Z690M-Plus D4
Crucial 8GB DDR4-2400 (3200C16) X2

Still country mile faster than any branded NAS.

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