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post Mar 22 2021, 11:06 PM

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Mix different brands of HDD on the setup also helps to have different failure time for each HDD.
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post Mar 27 2021, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Mar 23 2021, 06:00 PM)
To mix HDD we need SHR/SHR-2 config is it  hmm.gif  if using Raid-5/6/10 can we still mix HDD  sweat.gif
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Mix HDD that I mentioned earlier is brands of HDD.
Normal RAID cannot mix HDD size.
SHR can mix but there's risk that some data won't have redundancy. Example if use 3TB and 4TB HDD, you got 4TB of usable space but only 3TB have redundancy while 1TB is without.
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post Apr 1 2021, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Mar 31 2021, 09:15 PM)
It seems that the USB is for monitoring only.
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What other things to monitor by the NAS other than whether there's power being fed to UPS? hmm.gif

And since WaNaWe900 have same APC model but different capacity, I believe it can work.

He got mention what model that can work with NAS?

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post Apr 1 2021, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Apr 1 2021, 12:51 PM)
That's why I said "take that for what it's worth" about the sales person's advice. I don't absolutely believe what he said is right, as you should have been able to infer from my post.
If they had the P800T in stock, I would have bought one to test for myself, but I wasn't willing to spend RM499 to test with the higher end model. I still will try once I can get the UPS I want.

This is the problem, you believe it can work, but you don't know for sure. You're just guessing. It's an intelligent guess, but still a guess. At least WaNaWe900 has confirmed with his experience. That's one good data point from WaNaWe900.

The other reason I mentioned the name of the shop, and what exactly transpired, is also so that a person now doesn't have to go through the same experience I did. We still are unsure of which UPS to use, but we now know what going to All IT and asking will result in.

Said to look at enterprise level UPS models.  shocking.gif
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Right Power got P800T model? I Googled but can't find such model.

Since WaNaWe900 and ozak already confirm the model they using can use to trigger shut down, that's good data for your purchase.
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post Apr 6 2021, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Apr 5 2021, 11:22 PM)
icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

So just got notification below  hmm.gif sweat.gif

user posted image

Will run the S.M.A.R.T Extended Test tomorrow after the Expanding complete  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Should I be worried  :confused:  and proceed to Raid-6...?
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Your data now not in RAID?

See if the bad sectors increasing these few days. If it is then better change the HDD. You also just got the HDD right so can claim warranty.
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post Apr 6 2021, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Apr 6 2021, 12:02 PM)
Now in Raid-5  icon_rolleyes.gif  the 4th disk going to Raid-6

it's getting more already... will look into it after complete expanding, another 18% to go  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  yup just few months  icon_idea.gif
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I think you should change the disk and repair it in RAID5 first before change to RAID6
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post Apr 11 2021, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Apr 11 2021, 12:21 PM)
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That's a good info. Maybe the guy bring it from his country that is Lebanon or Philippines.

QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 11 2021, 12:40 PM)
The battery is bigger than the UPS for my NAS.  biggrin.gif

12V 65AH lead seal battery.
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Almost 10 times the capacity biggrin.gif

QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Apr 11 2021, 01:50 PM)
The real question though, why do you want your NAS running for 24 hours during a power outage?  tongue.gif
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Can also power the router and other network components. The network will never have any downtime. thumbup.gif
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post Apr 19 2021, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Apr 18 2021, 08:51 PM)
Sifus  notworthy.gif

Almost 10 days my NAS in degraded conditions  sweat.gif  hopefully tomorrow the rma disk arrive and will be ok.

Just curios, should I just insert & populate the new disk or better create whole new volume  hmm.gif

After all I want to go with Raid-6  sweat.gif  and now Raid-5
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If you got backup at other place then can just delete the RAID and create new one so that no need do twice.
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post Apr 23 2021, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Apr 22 2021, 10:30 PM)
Sifus  notworthy.gif

What actually is SSL Certificate  rclxub.gif  it seems expired or not match between Synology apps  shakehead.gif

Oso received email to renew the certificate for the "mydomain.synology.me"  doh.gif

This Integration Guide not really helpful to me  icon_question.gif

Is this something that we need to renew every time ?

When I click renew in the Control Panel Security it download 2 files (server.csr & server.key) which do I need to use for what ya  icon_question.gif
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A Beginner's Guide to SSL: What It is & Why It Makes Your Website More Secure

If you connect from internet to your NAS and using DDNS or your own domain you'll need SSL certificate to make it secure. If connect through QuickConnect or not access it from internet then don't need it.
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post May 6 2021, 06:11 PM

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I been using SSD drive as the storage for files in Drive and Moments for more than a month now. Before this it store in HDD. I always open files ranging from few hundreds kilobyte or few megabytes, or loading thumbnails for pictures, with HDD it always takes few seconds and feel laggy. Especially more when I access it remotely. I also got nvme cache but it can't cache all the files all the time. Now with SSD it's noticably faster, no more waiting few seconds for it to load the files or thumbnails.

Since I'm only using 1 SSD, there's no redundancy, so what I do is I set Hyperbackup to make backup of Homes folder every hour.

Having SSD for your active folders is worth the upgrade for NAS in my opinion.
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post May 6 2021, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ May 6 2021, 09:21 PM)
Expensive la.... Right now 2 TB SSD about RM 800 - RM 1000. 2 TB Ironwolf RM 300+. 4TB RM 500+. I would really like to try, but the cost... ugh! But I'm surprised that you feel HDD is laggy. I would think the data connection is the problem, not the speed of the HDD.

So I have dug out some old PCs, and now trying Open Media Vault. Wow, I'm blown away! Really responsive and fast! Reading up to see how the setup for OMV is, and also adding all the necessary software. Quite a steep learning curve, but OMV seems to be able to do everything a pre-built NAS can. I'll try to write up the experience when I can.

Hardware that I'm playing around with:
1. Intel D945GCLF mainboard, integrated Atom 230, 2 GB DDR2, 10/100 network. OMV installed on old 3.5" 80 GB HDD.
- Very low power consumption, (Atom TDP only 4W!) but the built in 10/100 limits speed to about 20+ MB/s file transfer over the network.
- Expansion is PCI slot, so no way of adding Giga network. Bummer.
- 10/100 network no buffering with 1080p 5.1 playback.

2. Gigabyte GA-A55M-DS2 mainboard, AMD A6-3500 3 core, 4 GB DDR3, built in Atheros 10/100/1000, OMV installed on 8 GB USB Flash drive. 2 different sized 2.5" HDD spanned together to make one bigger drive.
- Performs absolutely stellar as compared to my Synology DS212j. Snappy web interface, boots up fast, shutdown fast. Speedy.
- Network file copying at 100+ MB/s, to and from the NAS. Tested with 4 GB iso file. Slowest I see is when there are a lot of small files being copied.

3. Dell Vostro, i3 2120, 4 GB DDR3, built in Realtek 10/100/1000. Just started, but I think might be like #2 above.

So before you all say it, yes, I'm a cheapskate. Yes, I'm still using a DS212j from donkey's years ago. It still works fine for what I want it to do. And yes, I should get rid of some of the crap I have lying around.  laugh.gif

I must add the biggest con of using OMV that I'm facing right now - The information is out there for anything you want to do, but that information is all over the place. You end up reading on multiple forums, watching multiple videos on YT, reading and searching for everything. Very tedious and time consuming.
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SSD maybe forever will never be lower price per-GB than HDD. I only use SSD to store frequently accessed files so doesn't need to have the largest size SSD. Other rarely or never accessed files store in HDD. Even on local network, loading some thumbnails on HDD will take one or two seconds while on SSD it's instantaneous. On remote connection, because of the latency and data speed, it's much more worse. With SSD it makes it more bearable.

Because of the time consuming and tediousness are the reasons I don't want to built own NAS. If for hobby project I can understand, or for building dozens or more drive bays NAS. But if for saving some bucks for 2 or 4 bays, it's really not worth the hassle and time.
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post Jun 3 2021, 01:57 AM

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https://www.synology.com/en-global/releaseNote/DSM

Synology released DSM 7 Release Candidate!

Stable release might come soon, maybe in a month or two.
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post Jun 4 2021, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Jun 4 2021, 12:24 PM)
So better clean install or just upgrade, glad that Photos being taking care ; Packages - Synology Moments and Photo Station will be upgraded to and merged as Synology Photos.  rclxm9.gif  is it  hmm.gif
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For me I'll just upgrade it since there's too many settings, apps and accounts that need to be redo if clean install.

I been running DSM 7 as VM since yesterday just to get a feel and familiarized myself with the new OS.
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post Jun 4 2021, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 4 2021, 12:53 PM)
It said my NAS won’t receive automatically upgrade and got to DL from the site.

Don’t care. Wait few month later than update.
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Quiet a lot changes with the new DSM.
Especially on Photos which is replacement for Moments and Photo Station. Shared Space is different than Sharing.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 4 2021, 03:08 PM)
Sian. Got to learn again.

And wonder is that a improvement or just shook shook change interface.
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Different ways to do things now. Don't know if improvement or not.
I didn't use Photo Station so don't know how much difference it is than Photos. For Moments users, now the snapped photos won't appear in Drive unless it was moved/copied to Shared Space. In Drive, it will appear in Team Folder.

The default space in Photos is Personal Space. If share pictures to other users from here it will be listed in Sharing for sharer and sharee. Can set the sharee have permission to view only, or plus download, or plus add/remove photos. But pictures shared to sharee, the user don't have ability to remove those pictures shared to him/her in Photos shocking.gif

Want to share by folder can only be done in Shared Space. Pictures in shared folder will not appear in Sharing. Here can set other user access permission, if set as Management, it have same permission as admin. If set as Entry, it can only view folder that are shared to them. Here also same thing again, if Entry then it can't remove pictures being shared to them. sweat.gif

Maybe I got the permission wrongly, very funny if user cannot don't want pictures to be shared for them.
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post Jun 6 2021, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Jun 6 2021, 12:41 AM)
DSM 7 still not available for me... guess waiting next quarter  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Stable Release not yet out, only have Release Candidate which is almost same as Stable Release. But Release Candidate won't be pushed as update to users.
I'm running it as virtual machine in my NAS so that can try it. If you want to try you can download this and run as virtual machine.
https://www.synology.com/en-global/support/...rtualDSM#system

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post Jun 6 2021, 09:47 AM

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Meanwhile, ransomware getting worse. Recently Fujifilm become the latest victim.
https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/03/fujifilm-...k/?guccounter=1

So bad now until White House write open letter to all corporations asking them to step up their security measures for ransomware defense.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/03/us/polit...astructure.html
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jun 6 2021, 10:09 AM)
My current set-up consists of 5 units of Synology old models for media consumption.

DS1010+ @ TV Series (1080P)
DS410J @ ANIME & CARTOON (720P below)
DS411J @ TV Series (720P below)
DS213J @ P0rn
DS411J @ TV Series (720P below)

Total for all? 40TB capacity.

All the above were bought used or given away by friends. If I have at least 20K cash then can really upgrade to a better Synology with at least 100TB or higher.
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Do you use Central Management System app? With it you can manage all NAS from 1 place. Home network admin almost same as corporate network admin tongue.gif
Having multiple small NAS is better than just 1 big NAS. 1 NAS die won't impact everything.
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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ Jun 7 2021, 04:20 PM)
Yup saw that but well not in rush  icon_rolleyes.gif
Huh... I think most filtered by my Router, worried if does slip-in thru to the NAS thou  sweat.gif as I enable QuickConnect & NTP/SMB  hmm.gif
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You not using account with admin permission when connect to QuickConnect & NTP/SMB I hope.

Manipulation on your data (encrypted, deleted) from network (internal or external) happen by 2 ways:
1. Firmware vulnerability (very rare, but it does happen, like recently on QNAP)
2. Access to data with write permission account (99% of the cases)

Number 1, we as user can't do anything except shutdown the NAS and wait the company to come out update to fix it.

Number 2 is the most common reason, which is why never use account with admin permission for everyday read/write data. Only use admin account for doing settings on DSM such as change things in Control Panel or Hyper Backup. Also make sure to have ways to get back your data if being deleted or encrypted, such as using snapshot and make periodic backup.

Only use user account with write permission no matter in internal or external network. User account that's compromised can only make damage on data that's accessible on surface level, snapshot and backup is on lower level that will not be accessible for user account. Let's say your PC is infected with virus that encrypt all data, and your PC also connected to NAS by NFS/SMB with write permission account, the virus now can access and encrypt surface level data on NAS. Why it's important to have snapshot and backup.

This youtuber recently got hit by ransomware on his NAS. It's partly QNAP fault as after 3 months being made known of the vulnerability they still haven't patch it, they only release patch 2 weeks after the vulnerability being made known to the public. The youtuber lose media files of his family and youtube video, and enduring so much stress, because he never make backup of those files. It's same as those that think oh I got my data on Google Drive or Dropbox, I'm safe. Well what happen if hacker stole the credential and remove the data? Never push the responsibility to safeguard your data to corporation.


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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 7 2021, 10:13 PM)
No wonder I keep on get a the admin bla bla bla message every time log in.

I worry that message is a spyware.
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You still using the default "admin" admin account? Synology advice to create another admin account with different name and then disable "admin" account.
If not mistaken few years ago Synology start to implement when new NAS initialize it will ask to create an admin account and then auto disable the default "admin" account.

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