I know a lot of this type of poll have been created in this forum.

After countless of reading and googling.. I still can't make up my mind.

Need your help from sifus2 here..

My problem.. I've tested drive all the car in the option. I like Mirage more. Planning to take Mirage sport, price about rm70k.

But suddenly I've no confidence to take it as for the sake of value of money... the price is quite not reasonable for a small car.

Try to avoid myvi because seen a lot on the road nowadays. But if no choice.. I'll take it.

What I'm looking:
Budget below rm70k
Small Car
Good fuel consumption
Easy maintenance
Nice look

Really appreciate if you could respond. Btw.. I'm a young female executive. Will using the car mostly for short distance and twice a month to drive from kl to malacca.

Tq

i suggest go for Saga FLX S.E 1.6

if mainly fc was your biggest concern...go for mirage....

saga FLX SE = power, handling
myvi = good FC, bad handling
mirage = superior/godly FC, handling not bad but not as good as saga

Good fuel consumption = easily mirage
Easy maintenance = about the same
Nice look = depends on personal preference

if your main objective is overall advantage thn its saga FLX SE...its powerful, cheap, handles well but FC lose to the other 2
if your main concern is FC, mirage wins ALL

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Aug 19 2013, 03:07 PM

no need mirage sport la. normal mirage oso can.

KL to Melaka, Mirage not so suitable.

If you want to go for cuteness and looks, then I guess die-die also you want Mirage. But for RM70k, you can get better performance for the price. Considering you go back to Melaka twice a month, safety and stability on the highways is important too. Not to say Mirage isn't suitable (even the cheapest car in Malaysia will get you from KL to Melaka and vice versa), but on the highways larger and heavier cars are usually more desirable than smaller and lighter cars for added safety and stability.

There is a reason why there are many Myvis on the road when compared to the Mirage. Out of 20 Myvi perhaps we can only see 1 Mirage. If you want exclusivity, then no harm going for the Mirage. Personally I feel the Mirage is too small, but if you dig the size and exclusiveness of the car then by all means go for it. It's your money at the end of the day.

Personally if I travel long distance quite oftenly, I wouldn't choose the Mirage, something bigger (although not so fuel efficient) would be more appropriate.

suzuki swift?

Out of the 3 cars, I will choose the Saga. But if you are thinking about plonking RM70k for the Mirage, I'd rather take Preve Turbo for RM69k.

If you want to go for cute looks, the I guess you will still want Mirage.

The latest Mitsubishi mirage is a 5 star ancap car. Perhaps that may influence your decision.

If you want value, always Perodua and Proton would come out on top

Thank you so much! you, you read my mind. I like the look of mitsubushi mirage. Space is not my main issue because I'm a single woman. Actually prefer small car for easier parking.

Other than mirage.. I'll consider Saga FLX. Is the fuel consumption really bad as mentioned by some forumer in lowyat?

mirage quality also very sux... sit in my fren new mirage, manual, the engine sound is so loud even i seat at the back. then the door handle, when i wan to close the door, i pull the handle, the handle literally came half off!! wtf i realized the whole car is use clip one.. no screw.. even the middle console panel to the gearbox place, the thing also very flimsy, leg touch touch can move it edi. avoid mirage unless FC is very critical.

for that budget range and lady drive, perhaps u can consider I10 too

i vote for saga se, but please test drive 1st because you may not like the stiff ride. indeed the saga handling is good compare to other. its good for long distance. since you have 70k budget i recommend preve cfe. its has balance between comfort, safety and handling. but of course need to sacrifice fuel for bigger car.

if you want small and cute car, try consider hyundai i10, has huge discount now. its also more comfort than saga and myvi. also fun to drive.

only city, yes the FC is quite bad
this car is built for highway drive
if u often drive highway, it'll give u good FC

for flx SE 1.6 fuel consumption is more or less like this ;
full tank ron95= rm60
full tank can go easily around 400++km with normal driving.

*Reminder
take the Saga FLX SE 1.6, if the normal FL 1.6 fc is a bit worse.

go for the look. the one which you like n would be proud of. mirage your choice right..
saga is heavier 1,200kg.. so, fc in town driving higher.
the so call worst FC saga BLM Auto that l owned, 2008 is 17sen /km (300km/rm50) town drive.

You should really up your budget a little, take a city or Jazz CKD. On everyway it will be a better ride, plus you will get rock solid resale value.

For longer term, a better bet. It's outside the shortlisted ones, and above your budget, but you need to think harder, save just a bit more for a better car.

+1 to Jazz CKD.

My mom is using preve. Preve is nice but the fuel consumption is really bad. Really expensive to maintain it.

wow. is it that bad? how long have your friend been using the car? What do you mean "leg touch touch can move it edi." ?

Okay. Preve Turbo fuel consumption is not really that bad. However, if compared to 1.0-1.5cc vehicles then you can say the FC is bad. But in return, you get stability on highways, safety and comfort. You feel safe driving in Preve than in small cars like Mirage. Maintenance expensive? I don't think it is costly for a Proton.

i mean like u sit at passenger side, ur leg push the center console there plastic abit then u see it flimsy. my fren just got the car 1-2months ago. seriously, the handle is a joke, i nearly tercabut the handle when i close the door, another thing is the engine noise quite loud, louder than my preve i very sure when pickup.

just go test drive all
see which suite your taste better
some time the design is for personal preference
like i'm ok with saga but not so ok with myvi

I'm driving mirage for almost 1 year FC is gud when u maintain 2000rpm all the time. 140km/h in highway still stable but when 150 a bit floating. pick up is so damn slow this is the main reason i regret on getting this car.

yay. finally a feedback from mirage owner. but, the pick up is still better than myvi right? did u get manual or auto?

I already tested drive all car. Either me like the look of saga more than myvi. Only I concern about fuel consumption for saga. Daily I only drive 3km roundtrip.

This post has been edited by missymeika: Aug 19 2013, 05:36 PM

hard to be u
because if daily drive 3KM, mirage would be a good choice
but since u say that u drive KL-melaka 2 times a month, saga would be a good choice for that
depends on your choice
but FC, mirage is quite godly compare to the other 2
mirage is not bad in highway but saga does it better

should be since it uses CVT
those who say maintaining 2k RPM, high change its auto/CVT

yes, I'm using auto. If compare to myvi 1.3 auto, I would say that myvi is much more powerful than mirage as my previous myvi experience.

i would top up a little for 75k Jazz if I were you.
Very suitable for ladies, small easy parking with big interior.

if really can't stretch that 5k i would still go for Myvi. Its a much better car than Mirage, test drive and you will know. Just sitting in both of them its quite obvious. 4 cylinder will always be better than 3 cylinder, since both is NA. Pickup is so much better in Myvi.

Saga FLX is not bad too, like other mentioned, highway cruise a much better place to be. Parking it would not be easier than a Myvi though. City drive a lot, Myvi will have the edge too.

Highway a lot = Saga FLX
City drive = Myvi

I'd take Myvi anytime between these 3. (Don't shove off a good car in your list just because its a majority on the road)

This post has been edited by dtna7: Aug 20 2013, 10:26 AM

This means overall you regret about purchasing mirage. What things you like about this car?

nope...i drive it side by side before
2k RPM...its about the same..neck in neck
when reach a certain speed, 70KM/H something, mirage can speed away already
if u want pickup fast, viva is the one that is fast
the myvi only feels fast

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Aug 20 2013, 11:59 AM

Normally my highest speed at highway is at 120. Only when I want to cut the car in front. Do you thinks it's still suitable for me. After reading this... I feel like maybe mirage is not a good choice.

How about hyundai i10? Is the pick up better?

yes, myvi i dn't own one but i drive few time only...so can't comment much
but alot of member dn't recommend driving fast on myvi
mirage is not bad, only downside is the tyre is too narrow
if u can change it to a wider rim and wider tyres, that would be great
if u wanna go fast on highway, saga FLX SE would be your choice
3KM roundtrip to work, i think ok la...u can accept the FC

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Aug 20 2013, 12:08 PM

never driven that before, no comment

Preve value but the size is big, if you can handle that size this care should be ok and FC is high. Else for a girl, top up 5k for Jazz CKD or Kia Rio.

Don't buy Mirage Sport.. Just buy normal Mirage... Mirage is a fuel saving car u want to drive so fast for what? And 70k for A-segment Japanese car is like throwing your money into rubbish bin..

This post has been edited by Firebird: Aug 20 2013, 06:21 PM

The choice you make depends on your budget basically.
I own a Mirage as my second car. Auto full spec (not the sport version).
Fuel consumption is superb.
Some people bashed this car for its build and material quality, fit and finish etc. but in my opinion they are good. I think better than Prius C.
Noise: Sound proofing is good. Most noise is coming from the CVT which is similar to other CVT car such as grand livina, proton preve. The sound proofing is better than my Honda Stream RN5.
Suspension: soft setup for comfort drive. Due to this, there is body roll during cornering. Note that this is an eco car, it is not meant to be drive fast. Handling is good.
CVT characteristic: Good pick-up when going uphill (in D).
Rubberband effect which is normal for all CVT -feel difficult to accelerate after slowed down (after high speed). I have drived Nissan X-gear, Preve... same character.
Comfortable seat: better than myvi.
Space: Mirage is not that small. Myvi looks bigger because of the big glass window and the square shape. Myvi is only slightly bigger. I think Mirage boot space design is better than Myvi.
Maintenance: Myvi; more frequent visit to Service center because have to service every 5000km. Mirage; service every 10000km. So save time and money. Note that time is more precious than money he he he.
I am a happy owner of Mirage, if you opted for Mirage please don't buy the Sport version. Not worth it. Just go for the Auto full spec only.

This post has been edited by DoomHammer: Aug 20 2013, 06:26 PM

i was referring to 1.5 Myvi. Not sure if you are commenting the same

with a 70k budget, i'd figured 1.3 is out of the picture for TS.

haha..i was referring to 1.3L
BTW, i dn't really like the 1.5L version
more power = much easier to flip over
i dnt know if u notice, but at my place, 99% of 1.5L myvi is driving slower than the 1.3L(way slower like turtle)
dn't ask me why, i also dn't know
i know they have more power but they just dn't wanna speed...its those 1.3L overtaking the 1.5
not to mention its bumpier than the 1.3L version

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Aug 20 2013, 08:22 PM

my wife's brother owns it. drove and sat on it quite a few times already.
Still think its a better car IMO.

it is supposed to be a better car
but for me, i just dn't like it...personal preference
they haven't solve the 1.3L's problem, then they wanna add more power to it already
if u ask me, if the mirage is added a turbocharger/bigger engine...it would still be stable because its properly design
but not the myvi

after reading all the comments... I feel like saga 1.6 is a better choice. huhuhu

For mirage money better buy a preve it's a good car actually
My friend have a mirage it's not bad but not as good as preve
And I do not feel safe in that car

Actually my mother owns a premium preve. Yes, i like it a lot. Even i frequently drive the car. But only it's too big and not fuel efficiency. Not practical for me

Myvi 1.5 sounds ok
Rm70k is too much for a small car but the FC is godlike

This post has been edited by ezmeer94: Aug 21 2013, 08:48 PM

I'll go for Mirage if i were you. Boot space better than Myvi. I test drive this full spec Mirage and i found that it's definitely not bad at all in terms of power. 3 grown up adult man and a lady. 4 ppl in the car. Still got power going up hill. However the air con not really cold enough. Need darker tint maybe to offset this disadvantage.

The fuel consumption thingie, Myvi is nowhere near Mirage. My own 1.3 Myvi Auto full tank can get 330km only for 100% city driving. I heard Mirage at least can get you 16km/L of fuel. Not so godly as advertise, but good enough.

Dont buy Sports version, waste money only.

Compare to Saga.You try to slam the door of the Saga , Myvi and Mirage. Feel the difference yourself.

In terms of power, Saga 1.6FLX SE is quite powerful though . I butt itchy go test drive it at Proton COE but in the end, i booked an Inspira :-D

In terms of maintenance, i asked the Mitsu SA, she told me the Mirage is running on timing chain which is good. Timing belt replacement is expensive these days. Somemore usually need take half a day to replace it every 80k km. All Campro runs on timing belt. Preve is no exception.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Aug 21 2013, 09:08 PM

if u buy mirage and we go travel together to melaka (mine is fl auto 1.3) later, u will definitely fell butthurt. lol. jk.
flx cvt bagus je pe. kalau tahu control right foot, ok je.
senang cerita amik je la myvi kalau penting sangat FC.
i summon my GFs kasi review. diorang pakai saga.
summoning Celest-Lee & fruitie
my sister bought myvi btw. myvi ady good enough for her since myvi big enough.
if u fikir sangat pasal FC, then susah lor.

well, too bad for them.
buy mirage rm70k to get fuel efficient, buy travel more kena pump more fuel, go highway kena bayar toll lagi. masuk gajah & gorilla dah sendat.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Aug 23 2013, 09:03 AM

FC between the 3 cars won't be too much if you know how to control your pedal. Perhaps the Saga 1.6 FC is slightly higher, but not by much. If you are concerned on FC then you may consider Saga 1.3. The Mirage FC is better, only slightly, because it is a very small and light car. Its kerb weight is only 850kg. In terms of safety and stability wise the Mirage will lose to Saga which is more than 200kg heavier. The reason why the Saga is more suitable for highway drive with better stability on the highways.

If you just want a cute and sexy looking car like Barbie doll, then maybe Mirage will only suit you. But to me, it isn't that sexy anyway. A bit too small. It depends on what you want. Judging on the number of Mirage on the road I expect 2nd hand value would be poor later on too.

senang citer amik vios terus. end of story. lol.

ok la senang cerita. amik myvi ajer la, comparing all your needs. tak kecik tak besar. tak mahal sangat sampai rm70k. still fuel efficient. ok drive highway.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Aug 23 2013, 09:13 AM

Actually Mirage was my first choice of car but after a deeper consideration, I went to Proton dealer after visiting Mitsubishi.

Then I bought Saga FLX CVT. Big difference compared to my first choice.

Price must effect you alot

she's richfag actully you dunno one.

fruitie you just tell them what's the deeper consideration and the results of you choosing saga, easier for TS to consider.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Aug 23 2013, 09:51 AM

me same as fruitie, first choice was mirage, then me and my hubby go test drive myvi but in the end we end up gotten a flx exe 1.3 instead after deep consideration. seriously speaking until now we havent actually regret buying saga as for price its reasonable, the performance is good lo. about the size mirage n myvi is smaller than saga la, if balik kampung i prefer saga as i got a lot of things to bring back.

tell us the deeper consideration liao.

summoning Manlet regarding Preve FC.
TS feel preve too big? try Manlet inb4 he's a small man in preve.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Aug 23 2013, 10:22 AM

Preve is big. It is as big as D segment car.

If got 70k to spent, FC is the concernt, i think jazz CKD is the best.
Else, saga flx 1.6.

fc sial la dalam city drivin

kalo highway cruise constant 130kmh

get 7l/100km

wrong
if u know how to control your pedal...a myvi would be at best(highway) around 14KM/L
BUT for a mirage, if u drive it like normally(sometime rev 50% city 50% highway)...u still get around 18KM/L
IF u like the 1st case know how to control your pedal...the advertised 21KM/L is actually beatable...u can actually go over that....thats hybrid territory already
so saga and myvi...FC about the same but can't compare to mirage...mirage is way above
trust me...even i'm truly amaze on the mirage FC

another reason, mirage > myvi...it a well design car
at least if u corner fast, it won't flip over
and its a pretty safe car

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Aug 23 2013, 11:30 AM

haiyo... buy saga cheapest among all... compare the price of the mirage... the difference of the price use for petrol... dunno can use how many years adi... LOL

What wrong? If you want to get into specifics, even if the Mirage's FC is good, how much difference would it cost to pump in petrol in a month between the Myvi and Saga? That would be dependent on how much is the mileage that one travels. On average traveling distance, I would not expect the difference to be more than RM100 a month. That sum of money, to me is a small difference. Most small economic vehicles in the range of 1.3-litres, the FC wouldn't be too great.

If you compare a 1.3-litre vehicle with a 2.0-litre mid-sized sedan, then only the difference in FC/cost of fuel would be great, say a difference of RM200-300 of petrol per month, which is again dependent on the traveling distance.

In summary, although the Mirage may be more fuel efficient than both Myvi and Saga, I disagree that it is "way above". Translate the FC into ringgit, it may just come up to RM50-100 extra per month. To some people that may be a lot but to me it's not that much. If one does not travel too much, then the difference in cost may be less than RM50/month.

yes, it depends on how much u travel
in my case, since i own both saga BLM and mirage
when i'm on mirage(travelling the same distance)..my RM30-40 can last for 2 weeks
but when i drive my saga BLM back(same distance and i'm one of those owner that gets good FC out of it)....1 week driving it...i already need to pump in RM30-40 which is almost double
if driven daily, it makes a huge difference...u can ask mirage owner..they can vouch this car's FC is way above...this car's FC is within hybrid territory
not to mention, this is the 1st car i ever drive that it never fill in fully...when i saw the meter, it already needs RM40
the pump somehow trips at RM38.XX....80% of the time, it never reach the point

Not really la.
The loan for Mirage is pretty affordable for me.

Richfag your head.

I choose Saga because of the size and still no regret for now. I wanna have a Sedan for my first car then only change to other smaller and cuter cars that suitable for female.
Other technical stuff I don't know la. Haha. I just know it brings me to wherever I want.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Aug 23 2013, 01:13 PM

It wants to bring you to TT

Mirage~!

forget it for now. she said months...
i sudah merajuk just like gary runningman. lol.

we all can give plenty of arguments, but the choices is up to TS btw. so, to TS, good luck on your choice.

Buy vios, look like B segment, drive like B segment, but inside space C segment. Performancewise, tapau any of these cars, probably can tapau a GTR also if you want to. End of story Not to mention the better looking of a vios compare to all that crap mentioned.

[quote=davidke20,Aug 23 2013, 05:02 PM]
Buy vios, look like B segment, drive like B segment, but inside space C segment. Performancewise, tapau any of these cars, probably can tapau a GTR also if you want to. End of story Not to mention the better looking of a vios compare to all that crap mentioned.

other fan of toyota, vios using old engine change new chassis then sell to us again and again.
so call buy new car, but old engine...
toyota only income base on brand only.

Mirage got MIVEC, Myvi got DVVT, Saga got what?

you'll be amazed

Saga got camproooooooooo

Mind 2nd hand cars xD

i personally drive a flx Se for the last 6 months, previously a myvi driver since 2006 and drives my dad's mirage 90% of the time to bring him around (80yo eyes cant see very good but he insisted on buying the mirage for the looks LOL).

as the usage are only for going to work and going back to malacca twice a month, i think best bet would be myvi. later on u get married get bigger/better car la. mirage fc wayyy better but i dont it is worth the price tag atleast for a first car

fc
mirage>myvi>saga(saga city drive very bad fc)

hway driving
saga>myvi>mirage(u really dont wont a lorry/bus to pass u. like really flying d)

parking
mirage>myvi>saga(cant cucuk or steal parking easily for the saga lol)

features
saga=myvi>mirage(the ones i think important la)

maintainance
mirage>myvi>saga(although i find that it depends more towards which SC u go to)

clueless female driver friendliness
mirage>myvi>saga

looks
mirage>saga>myvi(looks good enough a female exec)

safety
saga>myvi>mirage(my biggest problem with the mirage was it is like driving a kelisa. inherent becoz of the small size. lorries pass u also can shake severely. myvi too although not as much).

so yeah if i were you myvi would be the best choice for the time being although i kinda hated that car now LOL

mirage is better for Ron 95 or Ron 97?

Mirage = Thai eco car
To qualify as eco car it is not just the fuel saving engine, but also meets UNECE R94/95 impact standards too.

On that note, mirage has a big plus point.

Have not tested on my mirage yet but RON97 give me better mileage with my Honda Stream 2.0.
I don't feel like putting RON97 in my mirage because it is mainly used for town driving only.

One of the reason I bought Mirage

Among these 3, Mirage is the no-brainer.