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Alexcsyan
post Aug 20 2013, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Aug 20 2013, 01:03 AM)
Maybe victim of older Sony TV self destruct after just few weeks? Remember that some Sony TVs released a year or two ago commit harakiri just after a few weeks due to bug in firmware...

Speaking of which, I hope that doesn't happen with the W804. I'd prefer getting a Sharp, but 1. Sharp don't have Passive 3D set (I don't like active 3D- again bad experience from demo unit at Sony Center where the salesperson handed me 3D glasses to demo but forgot to charge the thing) and 2. Sharp currently don't have any DVB-T2 ready TV in the market.

Experience with the glasses made me wonder what will happen if they run out of battery in the middle of an intense PS3 WipeOut HD Fury session...
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if run out in da middle, for sure u need 2 take another spec to replace da 1 tat run out of battery, & of coz u need to plugin to recharge...
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post Aug 20 2013, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(biskutm @ Aug 20 2013, 01:09 AM)
My opinion about this model still superb without triluminous tech  thumbup.gif .if with triluminous tech ultra superb  notworthy.gif but my budget won't allow me.. brows.gif this set come with blu-ray / DVD player model BDP-S490 without speaker  doh.gif plus free one 3D blu-ray disc.Anyway I'm still puas hati.... smile.gif
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damn i thought it has triluminous color when da salesman explain 2 me when it 1st release in show room...
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post Aug 20 2013, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 20 2013, 05:36 AM)
I think it is overpriced. Not that it is a horrible TV, but for how much you pay for it... there are better models out there.

While blacks on the W804 is decent (you have to activate Adv. Contrast though), it does crush shadow detail if you put Gamma at -2. Unfortunately, having Gamma at anyhting higher than -1 would make the TV too washed out, no matter what your contrast on brightness settings are.

Color accuracy is poor on the W804, especially blue levels. Enabling the Clear White helps a little bit but you will have to offset the Red and Green bias a little bit so that you still keep proper greyscales.

In terms of input lag, the W804 is amazing if you play games. Meassured around 16ms with a Leo Bodnar lag tester device. I usually think passive 3D is stupid (as is 3D entirely), so I'm not going to comment on this one.

So once again, the W804 isn't really a bad TV but just decent enough. Just that paying over RM3k (I don't know how much of a discount you got, but I assume the total price is still at least RM3k) for the TV isn't a good deal.
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bro, since u can expain it in details, so can i know which tv within 3k- 4k is da best option u will pick?
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post Aug 20 2013, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Aug 20 2013, 01:03 AM)
Maybe victim of older Sony TV self destruct after just few weeks? Remember that some Sony TVs released a year or two ago commit harakiri just after a few weeks due to bug in firmware...

Speaking of which, I hope that doesn't happen with the W804. I'd prefer getting a Sharp, but 1. Sharp don't have Passive 3D set (I don't like active 3D- again bad experience from demo unit at Sony Center where the salesperson handed me 3D glasses to demo but forgot to charge the thing) and 2. Sharp currently don't have any DVB-T2 ready TV in the market.

Experience with the glasses made me wonder what will happen if they run out of battery in the middle of an intense PS3 WipeOut HD Fury session...
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sharp is abit slow in new tech due to its financial issue to it main company, so u wont get da latest tech from sharp. unless sharp has more big investor for its coming capital...
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QUOTE(Alexcsyan @ Aug 20 2013, 10:14 AM)
if run out in da middle, for sure u need 2 take another spec to replace da 1 tat run out of battery, & of coz u need to plugin to recharge...
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And while I do that people beat me senseless and I lose the game? shakehead.gif

Don't get me wrong- I like Sharp. I just don't like Active 3D for several reasons (fear of battery running out in the middle of an intense gaming session and I waste precious time in swapping glasses, and I can actually see the flickering caused by the glasses' shutters). In fact, I strongly believe autostereoscopic 3D (glassless 3D- which ironically, Sharp invented but almost never capitalize on outside of licensing it to third party) is the future...

This post has been edited by RAMChYLD: Aug 20 2013, 12:05 PM
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post Aug 20 2013, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Aug 20 2013, 12:57 PM)
And while I do that people beat me senseless and I lose the game?  shakehead.gif

Don't get me wrong- I like Sharp. I just don't like Active 3D for several reasons (fear of battery running out in the middle of an intense gaming session and I waste precious time in swapping glasses, and I can actually see the flickering caused by the glasses' shutters). In fact, I strongly believe autostereoscopic 3D (glassless 3D- which ironically, Sharp invented but almost never capitalize on outside of licensing it to third party) is the future...
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as what i know da latest model of active 3d spec from samsung, according to da salesman claims tat he is also has da same item, can use it continuously for 7 hours. so i'm not sure about other models...

& 1 thing i can confirm, i like sharp picture quality, but da it is lack of latest tech, so i hav forced to turn 2 korea brand, which is samsung & lg.

but, when u hav astro sd or astro beyond, samsung f8000 has da best picture quality among all, if u dont believe, u can always go to ss2 happy household retails to hav a good look, there has afew leds tat is showing astro daily.
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post Aug 20 2013, 01:32 PM

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just share my experience on 47W804A

After spend some time on the color setting, finally almost find the best match to my eyes. Really need to find best match for ASTRO hd & sd, becoz when i follow HD, the SD not good enough, so need to find in between.

Tested astro HD, pendrive FHD movie ( via sony S4100 player ). So far so good.

Loved the build-in wifi, also tested linked the youtube from my android phone. Now still no time to test other sony apps becoz i'm using sony phone.

also done the manually firmware update. Got it from sony website.
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QUOTE(karheng @ Aug 20 2013, 01:32 PM)
just share my experience on 47W804A

After spend some time on the color setting, finally almost find the best match to my eyes. Really need to find best match for ASTRO hd & sd, becoz when i follow HD, the SD not good enough, so need to find in between.

Tested astro HD, pendrive FHD movie ( via sony S4100 player ). So far so good.

Loved the build-in wifi, also tested linked the youtube from my android phone. Now still no time to test other sony apps becoz i'm using sony phone.

also done the manually firmware update. Got it from sony website.
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Please teach me step by step !



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post Aug 20 2013, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(Alexcsyan @ Aug 20 2013, 10:21 AM)
bro, since u can expain it in details, so can i know which tv within 3k- 4k is da best option u will pick?
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A plasma, specifically a Samsung PS51F5500 for RM3.2k. Has everything the Sony W804 has but just leaps better.

Better blacks, way better color accuracy, handles motion better, a more robust Smart TV option (this though doesn't mean anything if you're using a HTPC or a media player with XBMC of course), has 3D as well (bleh), and just downright better picture quality with a lot more options to really calibrate the TV unlike the W804's fairly limited options.

About the only thing the W804 does better is lower input lag, lower power consumption and it handles bright rooms better (as is with all LCD TVs).
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 20 2013, 07:00 PM)
A plasma, specifically a Samsung PS51F5500 for RM3.2k. Has everything the Sony W804 has but just leaps better.

Better blacks, way better color accuracy, handles motion better, a more robust Smart TV option (this though doesn't mean anything if you're using a HTPC or a media player with XBMC of course), has 3D as well (bleh), and just downright better picture quality with a lot more options to really calibrate the TV unlike the W804's fairly limited options.

About the only thing the W804 does better is lower input lag, lower power consumption and it handles bright rooms better (as is with all LCD TVs).
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i know u will gonna said tat, but for me, a 100% for me as 'NO' to plasma. 1st, sorry but no offense tat, i will banned plasma, bcoz i will not pay more electrical bills to tnb as bills increase almost every yr, unless i hav a rich dad or mayb my boss pay me doubles monthly, so plasma is out of my options. 2nd, heat is almost double or triple than a led can produce. for a little small house with no air con living hall, plasma is totally out of my expectation, not even just plain lcd like those old days big ass lcd. 3rd, black levels is always mention lcd & plasma forum, but in actual life, for a normal guy with just a small house, no theater room, i would not prefer plasma bcoz it needs a dark environment to expand its pros rather than cons, if a plasma put in my house living hall, i can tell da living hall will be 'HOT AIR-CON' once da tv is switch on after 5 minutes. lastly, from tv viewing distance from tv to my sofa is just bout 5feet max.
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QUOTE(Alexcsyan @ Aug 20 2013, 06:40 PM)
i know u will gonna said tat, but for me, a 100% for me as 'NO' to plasma. 1st, sorry but no offense tat, i will banned plasma, bcoz i will not pay more electrical bills to tnb as bills increase almost every yr, unless i hav a rich dad or mayb my boss pay me doubles monthly, so plasma is out of my options. 2nd, heat is almost double or triple than a led can produce. for a little small house with no air con living hall, plasma is totally out of my expectation, not even just plain lcd like those old days big ass lcd. 3rd, black levels is always mention lcd & plasma forum, but in actual life, for a normal guy with just a small house, no theater room, i would not prefer plasma bcoz it needs a dark environment to expand its pros rather than cons, if a plasma put in my house living hall, i can tell da living hall will be 'HOT AIR-CON' once da tv is switch on after 5 minutes. lastly, from tv viewing distance from tv to my sofa is just bout 5feet max.
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Well, I wouldn't know the variable circumstances you are facing in your own stead because you didn't mention it. The question from you was which TV between RM3k - RM4k would I pick.
No offense taken of course, no worries. smile.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 11:06 PM

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Hi, I'm interested in getting this TV / Sony KDL55W804A!
Can anyone pls tell me where is the best shop to buy (Best Price) around Klang valley? Thanks! smile.gif
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post Aug 21 2013, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Hector JZ @ Aug 21 2013, 12:06 AM)
Hi, I'm interested in getting this TV / Sony KDL55W804A!
Can anyone pls tell me where is the best shop to buy (Best Price) around Klang valley? Thanks! smile.gif
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check this out!

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...2229&hl=sony+55
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QUOTE(Alexcsyan @ Aug 21 2013, 12:42 AM)
Thanks will check it out. TQ
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QUOTE(local_machine @ Aug 19 2013, 02:04 PM)
i dont know whether its worth or not. i was just responding to the previous post.

anyhow, i also wanted the 804 series, but after got racun, now i'm more towards LG LA7400 series.
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No offence meant bro icon_rolleyes.gif.. I'm actually also looking at LG now, the dual play features will b something that gamers will find interesting, I'm looking at either the LA6200/8600.
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Aug 22 2013, 06:34 AM)
No offence meant bro  icon_rolleyes.gif.. I'm actually also looking at LG now,  the dual play features will b something that gamers will find interesting,  I'm looking at either the LA6200/8600.
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What dual play features?
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QUOTE(genjo @ Aug 22 2013, 10:17 AM)
What dual play features?
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dual play means 2 players can play games on da same screen with fullscreen on, unlike those days 2 players share half screen on da same tv...

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i'm thinking of getting the 55" LA6200. this is much cheaper than getting the sony W706 or W804 series.
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QUOTE(local_machine @ Aug 22 2013, 02:09 PM)
i'm thinking of getting the 55" LA6200. this is much cheaper than getting the sony W706 or W804 series.
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actually no harm getting this model, but theres always better bcoz it has 3d but with a cheaper price, sony has those superb colors but lack of 3d, somemore expensive than lg la6200...
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QUOTE(Alexcsyan @ Aug 22 2013, 03:41 PM)
actually no harm getting this model, but theres always better bcoz it has 3d but with a cheaper price, sony has those superb colors but lack of 3d, somemore expensive than lg la6200...
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i tested the LA7400 series before, which is using 200Hz panel instead of LA6200 (100Hz).
to my opinion, the LA6200 behaves more like sony W706 while the LA7400 suits well with W804.
but i failed to notice any difference during the 3D conversion with trumotion/motionflowXR onboard.


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