QUOTE(AKace @ Aug 18 2013, 07:09 PM)

First emperor of japan was a hokkien
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QUOTE(mirage2000 @ Aug 18 2013, 07:19 PM) why must always start with Qin dynasty? there's Shang Dynasty (1600 B.C-1046 B.C) long time before the Qin that's copper era productsShang Dynasty artifacts ![]() ![]() ![]() however, copper era turned out in japan quite LATE & it looked like turned out "suddenly"(in short period) that let people bridged up the xu fu and jap 1st emperor story but it has a big time gap of 500-800 yrs |
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I'm no longer surprise by things in life once I realized Hang Tuah is actually Chinese.
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we come from one parent adam....everyone can claim that
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certain people don't like this thread because all they can derive heckline theory from is from indonesia. hahahah
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Chinese master race
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QUOTE(ectt @ Aug 18 2013, 07:09 PM) there are many historians from china and japan have doubt on xu fu as the first japan emperor, there is a big time gap It is nothing new that qin emperor always suggested themselves as god's sun 神 but the qin character of 秦 does not bring any meaning except for qin dynasty. It is clearly changed during later period of communist or manchu era.regarding to originated from hokkien, not so possible if judged by language, geographic, and culture. an interesting findings extract here, can be translated by google However if qin is changed to shin 神 in hokkien , it coincided with japanese mythology of first emperor who was the first son of qin shi huang. Jenmu tenno is pronounced in 95% accuracy in hokkien and shinto which was their religion during that time also suggested similar outcomes. Discrepancies between japanese and qin records were very normal as during that time , countries were at civil wars and there were bound to be inaccuracies but the names that were left in history are clear evidence of my allegations. At that time it was very possible that the first emperor of japan was immortalized as gods so people told stories of his long life thought out which explained for the differences in timeline of both countries and bear in minds japanese dont like to be associate with chinese because of the influence and descendant of mongols in china today so they might change the history to sever connection with china, just like taiwanese who dont like to be called chinese for obvious political reasons. This post has been edited by tankerbell12345: Aug 18 2013, 10:25 PM |
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QUOTE(tankerbell12345 @ Aug 18 2013, 07:44 PM) Hang tuah 王大 - big king LOL Han tu also sounds like! Even u translated it to mandarin, cantonese or hakka, u know that the name is in chinese dialect. japanese language seriously affected by tang dynasty, historians also claimed that cantonese is very closed to the tang dynasty language because pronounce those poems in that dynasty with cantonese is much better than other dialects in accent, tones, rhythm,etc. so should also crown it is doped with cantonese pronounciation. indeed, some jap pronunciation resembles a few dialects including chinese pu tong hua. japanese appearance look like northern chinese face, like shangdong, quite unlike hokkien(southern chinese appeaance). from geographical distance, shangdong is much closer than hokkien. looking at the ship technology at that period, chance to cross the sea and reach japan was quite risky voyage. |
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who thee ong?
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ts is chinese hekline?
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Aug 18 2013, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(ectt @ Aug 18 2013, 08:01 PM) Han tu also sounds like! Tang - also hokkien. That is why a lot of Lee could speak hokkien too. Korean lee suggests that they are heavily influenced by hokkien.japanese language seriously affected by tang dynasty, historians also claimed that cantonese is very closed to the tang dynasty language because pronounce those poems in that dynasty with cantonese is much better than other dialects in accent, tones, rhythm,etc. so should also crown it is doped with cantonese pronounciation. indeed, some jap pronunciation resembles a few dialects including chinese pu tong hua. japanese appearance look like northern chinese face, like shangdong, quite unlike hokkien(southern chinese appeaance). from geographical distance, shangdong is much closer than hokkien. looking at the ship technology at that period, chance to cross the sea and reach japan was quite risky voyage. Thng lang are associated with hokkien in nanyang but china chinese dont know anything abit it. Hokkien today are heavy intermixed by indigenous groups such as minnan , thereby look darker today. Imagine almost the whole population of indigenous group in china assimilated into the master race. Tang influence on japan is culturally only. Language, structure of house, ancestry, qin and han more significant because capital of tang was also in chang an. This post has been edited by tankerbell12345: Aug 18 2013, 08:35 PM |
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Later china claim Japan as their territory.
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It's common knowledge that those sepet yellow japanese came from mainland what.
Nothing to kecoh about pon. |
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