This car caught my attention since its quite cheap compared to my other likes which is the S2000...how do you guys comment about it?
Toyota MRS

MRS =/= S2000

if you want raw power then this is not the car u r looking for.. if handling is what u looking for, then yes.

i know that..that's why i only say its cheaper...i just want to know from ppl comments, since i hardly see ppl talking about this car..

how about maintainance?i believe its not too expensive since its a toyota and small 1.8 engine..

maintenance is acceptable as its using the same engine as altis, unless you have modified it...

good to hear that..i am not looking for very spirited driving, just a simple 2 seater that nice to drive to feel some air..

I'm sorry but the hair dresser's... receptionist's car.. can't compare with the S2000.

This car is ok. Stock car rides low and moderately fast. Most of the unit in Malaysia is recond and tiptronic transmission from what i know. It has the same engine as the same year Celiza. 2ZZ something engine code.

Cannot compare to S2000. Almost different class. Maybe put next to MX5 more appropriate.

performance wise, OF COURSE..S2000 is way more powerful..its just caught my attention due to lower price,so am asking here due to no ppl talking about it..that's all..my title might mislead you..sorry about that

nice to hear that..again, i am not comparing..its just lower price that attract me..if somehow got extra budget, of course S2000 all the way since i like that car also,..

but the mrs's price is a bit low for a 2003 year car.. u better check it out before purchase it...

that is my concern after all..any famous defect i should look into?i've read about gearbox issue in tiptronic edition..but this is manual.

I also heard a lot of ppl did not use the correct tiptronic gearbox oil that killed the gearbox solenoid or something. The oil has some conductive properties inside it. Even if they used the most expensive gearbox oil, it would still kill it. Last i heard it cost RM7K to fix it. But that was many years ago. So if u do own one, use genuine toyota tiptronic gearbox oil.

Yes , i do own one, but mine is manual transmission

ask yourself this:

1) are u a hairdresser?
2) are u a girl
3) u don't have any friends?
4) u don't travel at all?

of all YES, then u definitely fits the car, don't think, buy it!

now the serious stuff...

the biggest problem with this car is practicality, u can't fit anything into it if u use it for travel or road trip.

for point 1 and 2, well one man's meat is another man's poison ..for point 3 and 4, well i do have another car that seat 4-5 person..if want bigger space, my family have a suv to fit more..lol
this car if bought, will be used mainly for pleasure driving with top down..

This post has been edited by Devil7801: Aug 14 2013, 07:17 PM

I guess you still don't get the joke.. it's not one man't meat.. in the automotive world... all agree to point 1.. only thing they can't agree is whether the MR-S is the hairdresser's car.. or the receptionist. That stigma started from the Miata days and carried to the MR-S. Why the stigma.. find us another slower top down coupe...

Also the MR setup is not exactly fun to drive (no.. having an MR does not automatically make it a Ferrari) together with it's brother the MR2 usually comes with free membership to the 360 Spin club (another long time automotive joke.....) when you take it to the limit (even in a car park).

well, at least the MR2 has a 3S engine (that's a man's engine to u receptionists / hairdressers)....

u can have the excuse of blaming the engine too powderful and u lost control, whereas the MRS, u don't even have enough power to join the 360 club......

Ok,that's a bummer...this might explain why this car rarely discussed..anyway,apart from that,theree should be no problem rite?

This post has been edited by Devil7801: Aug 14 2013, 08:47 PM

the car handling its very hard to predict, newbs usually crash them..

That's what I read somewhere else too. MRS is not a perfectly engineered car that the back is too unpredictable.

For a Toyota with the same high revv engine, Celica is a better bet, even if it's a FWD. It handles better than MRS.

mrs and celica do not use the same engine . Same platform, yes.. 1zz vs 2zz.. sure 2zz more power..

You can fix hairdresser part by plonking in K20A and convert it to the carrera gt looking widebody kit
Or turbo the stock 1ZZ also ok

just buy a MR2, it's got the 3s-gte, no need stupid bolt on

for me, i will just enjoy the driving without any major modification.. if i wanted a raw power car , i would not have gotten this car at the 1st place

The car got sum looks, but interior not tat nice

Saw one at Bukit Jalil last nite......kena cucuk by a Toyota Hiace

dont mind the people who says that. that just prove they are not enthusiast, just an ahbeng poser thinking they are the best.

Like it or not...the mrs is a collectors car..apart from the lack of performance, it is quite torquey and with a mid-engine lay out, its a fun drive..dont be fool by some who 'over-emphasize' on power power and power...as if power means everything...if you like mrs, u must b prepared for - cabin for 2 only....perhaps u can bring very little luggage,,arr maybe not luggage, fits only travel bag..unless u take out the spare tyre - for luggage but then that;s a bit of a risk...

Being a mid engine car, it strive for 50:50 front/back ratio, to ensure a balance ride and also better control because its a FR car, rear wheel...as such control is important...you will find yourself smilling especially when u attack corner with slight fish tailing, i think learning how to control the back from slide is where the fun lies...of course you'd hear many will say its dangerous and bla bla bla...its dangerous when its driven really hard, otherwise, a normal sane person would familiarize with the car before they push it further...correct me if i m wrong...ohh and finally MRS may seem slow and lack power but on twisty road, it can give the Evo, Scooby a run for their money - try to look for it on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGjQzXXphm8

this is how MRS performs on a track.. and oh yea, THE POWERFUL S2000 is in the vid too

hairdresser's car just pawned them all..

This post has been edited by Th3nG: Aug 17 2013, 02:19 PM

wow, u just copied paste everything u can find on the web, good job!

I think i choose to believe Japan Drift King's and professional racers' opinion and comment on the car rather than urs.

i'm not going to argue with that

anyway, that youtube video doesn't really say much, just that it's wet, the MR-S is the first one because it's the slowest with the least HP, and those guys behind were fighting so hard between themselves to bother with the MR-S

Hmm.. maybe.. it shows the advantage of light weight machine on a track..
there is another touge vid by them too..
mrs vs s15... u can watch it on yotube.. I feel that you just have to be neutral when giving out a comment as your comment seems like pure bashing.. no offense mate

typical poser i-know-everything-and-you're-wrong kid.

i'm not actually bashing, if i'm bashing, i'll say the MR-S is crap in my first post here, but i just said it's pitfall is only not practical, and it just doesn't have the power it needs, although it's lightweight, this is a problem with all newer gen toyotas starting with the celica with 2zz, they just don't measure up to the standards with their predecessors. actually, not just toyotas, it's the same as almost all jap cars, just look at the Fairlady 350z, now that's a huge fat arse compared to the 300zx (another huge fat arse but with big muscles to power it).

If u keep on camparing to better cars, ts shd jz go for a pagani huayra
U have all the power there and lightweight too.
Jz come bek to reality,
Ts is looking at mrs due to the pricing,
At this price,
I guess mrs is the most fun car

Yeap
JDM car industries is moving backward
Exception :
1.)R35 GTR
2.)IS-F(Compared to Altezza )
Errm,that's about it
EVO X,Impreza etc
The issue with all of these car is that manufacturer try to make it appeal to broader audience and that's exactly where they fall short
In EVO X case,they could have bore up the engine,give bigger turbo to give the go that match with the increase in weight but they don't
End up EVO X is slower than EVO V~IX MR

actually bang for buck there are a lot of other cars that are better choices than this one. the MX-5 / Miata, the RX-8, the Altezza etc. all of them offers better value than the MR-S although there are some little drawbacks such as rarity for the mazda (u can get old gen for less than 70k but newer one for around 110k, MR-S is priced in between), RX-8 is a fuel guzzler (but it's a whole lot more practical than the toyota), the Altezza isn't considered lightweight, but it's got huge potential in the engine bay (u can fit in any kind of engine u can think of, RB26dett or 1jz or SR20 or even 2jz if u got the $) and it's a 4 door sedan, not to mention the fun factor of FR (yes, i'll take it any day over MR platform because u can do silly things with it and it will reward you, not punish you like the MR if you are a noob)

oh, and i forgot, since u r considering a 2nd hand car, THE MR-2 is a 100 times better than the MR-S

did u say "I guess mrs is the most fun car"?

if u think i'm not qualified to poke fun at your comments, firstly, look at what i'm driving. I know this is the internet and i can pretend that i'm driving a ferrari or a lambo, but i'm not, i'm driving a 30 year old hunk of junk that has 2 doors and a 1jz engine in it. i'm more than qualified to poke fun at u.

This post has been edited by stormlcc: Aug 18 2013, 04:04 AM

FYI, I didn't copy anything from the web...prbly it's u with ur sarcastic mind and cynical thinking brain, derived everything from the net...n pretend that every ideas or opinion u gave are original...try song writing then...

Things that I mentioned are specification about MRs, and I don't see any reason to change anything, the car is as is where is - unless being modified...but u being the Mr. Smarty Pant, try write something original about MRS...I am quite sure u'd get the same reply - wow, u sure cut and past from the internet....go figure..and yeah, just the answer I am expecting - rx 8, altezza...typical ricer boy...ohh and of all cars, U shuld mention rx8 - tells a lot about u...

where's the popcorn?

yup, i dont understand the 'hate'. usually calling mr-s as 'underpowered', really???

why??


i dont understand misinformation or boys claiming it's a girly/hairdresser's car.


First & foremost, back then the mr-s or mr2 spyder was created to re-enter to small sportscar market that the very first generation MR2 AW11 sparked a whole new interest in it. sure the Mazda (Miata) then swoop it up with its brilliant back to basics MX5 (using similar cues & template as a yardstick from the early 60s lotus élan)

They (mazda) virtually swept the small sports car segment & rightfully claimed the world's best selling sportscar/roadster! there is no shame in that!!

Toyota while then had the second generation SW20 (more powerful since they also had turbo over the NA) certainly wowed the enthusiast! Claims of chalking 400hp, 500 hp from the 3SSGTE was pretty normal.

but the SW20 certainly had added too much weight on its rear, esp the turbos MR, its quite tricky driving with so much power & ONE don't want spooling it hard at mid corner, hairy experience. only those who attempted will understand. (sorry not for those who "claims" or hear say). It's still a fine car btw the testimony is a couple of them are still driving it from day one.

Now, i digress. toyota felt the SW20 was getting too hard to sell in the global scenario. back it the mid 90s, i believe there is a report that showed 37units & the following year only 9 units SW20 was sold in the whole of USA on it's last year there, whereas the mazda was laughing its way to the bank. While the SW20 was suppose to be a step up category over the AW11, it was painful to see what toyota sparked, was swoop by another car maker in penetrating that segment.

IN truth,Toyota wanted to chalk back some numbers, so back to the drawing board, to see what made the AW11 so popular in its single largest market & sparked the small sports car segment up.

Is it in the same class as the S2k? no, of course not. the STook is a category up & more expensive. WHY can't people understand this simple classification???



[*sales figure edit: source Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A.]

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 18 2013, 04:24 PM

i would say to those who intend to seek the real truth than to judge from just hearsay.


Like to anyone who express interest in the MR-S, or the 3rd generation of the MR2. there are tons of info out there.

NO not many of us go out to, spend tons of our free time online just to propagate an ultimate drive car, because most of us have real world lives & rather spend driving a car i think most of us enjoy.

Yes there are those who persist on perpetuation misconceptions, for they are either ignorant or rather clueless about other car makes.

There are of different segmentation of buyers out there. Of course there is, why the hell did car makers ONLY want to make just one gene of cars for everybody.

Some owners i have come across rather drive their cars as is (no changes, adds, mods, i also sure most of you guys should encounter them too) & in hope their cars will generate a handsome profit in the event when it becomes a 'classic' sometime in the future. I don't want to dispute their intentions, they purchased their cars, keep it in pristine condition, hardly drives it (or maybe chunk up 5 minutes to warm the engine then shut down) because driving it will drive down the mileage. Sure, maybe they get lucky someone in the future will plonk godzillion dollars for it.

I will tell people this, the MR2 (any generation) is NOT a collectors car, i doubt so. It's meant to be driven not parked to await it's destiny.

Yes there is a mr2/mr-s community amongst us, some of us are cult'ish about it but never pompous. We acknowledge there are better cars, more expensive cars out there, though some of us may not move on or unless someone gifts us a super, supercar (yeah right). The MR community is pretty happy as it is.

Hope this helps TS, and dispel some misconceptions.

Though TS may have sights on something else, which is not wrong. Choices are his and depends on one's purchasing power there are alternatives. Happy hunting.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 18 2013, 02:15 PM

Ok.....
Ts is looking at roadaters u r throwing out altezza and rx8? Which is a diff class?
Y nt suggest ts to get anold 7 series and transplant a 2jz into it?
Much cheaper than any of ur suggestions,
So nw we are comparing cars we r driving?
Sry bt i am oni driving a family car, bcoz i am nt an enthusiast lik u,
Btw, wats wifnall the hate towarsa this mrs?
Its a nice looking car bt u've been bashing it non stop,
I understand the neighbour's grass are always greener,
So stop being jealous of TS

If i'm not mistaken koolspyda is the owner of a kool Gulf themed MRS.

This post has been edited by netmatrix2: Aug 18 2013, 12:34 PM

Like wat i said earlier,
Sum ppl r ridiculous comparing cars of diff category, diff class,
Even sedans are out now,
So y not we compare sumthing lik bugatti?

Who is a much reliable poster than other haters

no lar

i must confess, i sure there are also others who are more well informed, some of which who are in the motor industry itself.

I am just a simple enthusiast, yes i have previously own a supercharged AW11 (not transplanted) many years ago. it was unfortunate someone decided to rear-end me while i was awaiting service from AAM at the emergency lane. You know lar malaysians and their bad habits of driving/cutting on emergency lanes. total loss of my ride back then (though it was resurrected by some other workshop after my claims of total loss yup it was like seeing your ex-gf on the road, scary!! )

thereafter some years, I did searched for the SW20, scouted a dozen before realising what i really wanted was not a power car but a nimble lithe sports car.

of course i did pull the lotus elise into the picture back then while deciding on my ride, while some may say elise is real sports car while the others are not. Well it was simply because someone offer the elise to me at the same price i was looking at AND it (elise) only clocked 2000km!! pristine cond.

I had to look into real world scenario. I dont have a super large home nor stay with my parents (whom may have more parking space). I'm a realist, one parking lot in real world scenario meant ONE possibly daily driven car. If the elise was my 2nd, 3rd, or 4th ride, i will gladly open to the idea.


btw my ride is not the gulf car

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 18 2013, 01:36 PM

Wah...finally Mr. Koolspyda....the sifu for MRS...was waiting for u to come in here..since the car is unfairly bashed by a serial hater, basher, and smart ass..ohh btw, i like the mrs and have done my research on the car and also got input from koolspyda..but eventually have to drop the idea simply because of the cabin space...not like a certain serial basher who quoted - MR2 is 100x better than MRS - that also tells me a lot about u...what do u mean by 100 times..how do u measure.....yeah - u cant...typical ricer boy lor....ohhh..becos MR2 got SGTe engine so its nicer lor...yalor...everything with turbo or a T in the middle is nice...for ricer boy....

Actually all in all, i cant blame u...since ur siggy already mention about G-force addiction - pathetic...get a life and dont waste it....ricer boy

sussh, don't need the title


There will always be bashers, it will be lesser of the world if not for these guys.

i don't think any of us are perturbed by others who choose to impose their car beliefs or habit to others (usually towards rookies) as if is so bloody sacred. It's either that or you are not with us. sounds familiar right?

Truthfully there are hard facts & there are soft inclinations on why some buyers choose one over the other.

Buyers are diverse & one cannot just group to just "Hey, this is the ultimate car and has the BESTEST car specs, Buy (only) this!! it's stupid not to"


Well mark, it is tough that we (MR community) misses you. I'm sure you did find something you are looking for. there is always a solution to the end.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 18 2013, 02:22 PM

Yeah...just that he know a bit about plonking in RBDEtt, 1 jZ, 2 Jz doesnt mean he know nuts about cars. And i dint even want to teach him this...the performance parts available for MRS is much more than MX5+Rx8 combine.....at best he know how to compare a GT86 wt a GTR....and he will say GTR can pawn the 86 without batting an eyelid...

Regretfully there is no replacing the MX5 as most mods/aftermarket parts, it is still king, simply there are tons of MX5, all generations who form a bigger market. Just like honda, it helps drives cost down in a way for those tuners.

I'm sure the mx5 is still making owners having tons of fun out of it. I do know of a couple of mx5 owners.

TS gone? after all the suggestion and facts provided?

Ended up with something practical instead of coupe/spyder?

Abit busy for a few days..Again, i am just looking for opinions since the car rarely discussed..For the buying part, well i really need to think deeply..60-80k is quite big, which might delay my other interest in life(marriage for example )..still,thanks for all of your comment..this thread will now closed..