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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Rojak Thread V49, Poor people car everyday need to fix

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post Aug 13 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 13 2013, 12:32 AM)
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David, why they build it like that....weird...2 jab on throttle but 1 signal only...

zeone, I've taken out the gaga TB before and I only can see the idling hole and the DBW module but maybe the TPS is built inside the DBW module also. hmm.gif
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post Aug 13 2013, 02:07 PM

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softer pads more gentle on rotors, harder pads your rotor will wear out very fast. pads is cheaper than rotor anyway....the worst I have was changing 2 sets or rotors in 1 year 4 months. Due to using race pads...very less dust, noisy and need to warm up...but brake is super duper when it's hot.....can brake until the rotors start to glow red
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post Aug 13 2013, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(KIntos @ Aug 13 2013, 03:24 PM)
My magician said skimmed also same one will come back coz metal king to them is will eat rotor abit. He said most brake pad also like that so he recommend me buy aveo brake pad from GM. Btw my rotor no issue why need to skim? Coz my stock pad is even wear n tear rate. Even he also said change brembo rotor also same so now i go hunt aveo brake pad then only skim rotor.
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Change brake pads, rotor need to skim. Reason for skimming is because at times you will notice that the rotors has some grooves in it shallow one or deep one that is due to debris stuck between the rotors and the pads. The naked eye see is even but it's actually not. That's why after you change a pad without a skim disc you will notice the rotors some area got contact some area don't have. It's very visible if you wash the car and the rotor got slight rust on it and you go drive around and see some area the rust gone and some still there. For me I only practice skimming the same disc twice only. Then change the rotors.
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post Aug 13 2013, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 04:15 PM)
TitanRev just want to confirm.
You are using OBD2 wifi reader + DashCommand and it's running fine on Ipon ?
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I'm running the Dash Command on andriod..Iphone one need to buy geh...

QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 13 2013, 05:14 PM)
congratz~!  rclxms.gif
so fast tint... berapa u tint?
OMGOSH, can only skim twice only ar? my fish stock dish for 10 years been skim for 4x...  shocking.gif
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Your rotor there got state min thickness one. IF you skim over the min thickness rotor might crack. 1st hand experience in my uncle's Sentra. He skimmed the disc 5 times already....1 time during driving and emergency brake the disc shattered and very loud sound. 3 wheel bolt patah and really scare the shit out of me...crawl to the side and see what happen. driver side rotor hilang...
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post Aug 13 2013, 06:06 PM

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reapers,

This is not due to skimming too much but if skim too many time similar will also happen. The below is due to uneven thermal expansion. Same theory if material too thin and cannot take in more heat it will start to crack due to expansion.
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post Aug 14 2013, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 13 2013, 08:14 PM)
Hi agin, Bro... notworthy.gif

Was wondering if yu can share yr informative & experienced views on how one can improve the braking system of our Gagas w/o ABS/EBD, etc?

Wld the following be of any help? And in what order of action if done in stages (due to budget probs?)?

Changing to :
1. Dbl Diaphragm Brake Servo
2. Larger Master Brake Cylinder
3. Stainless Steel Reinforced Brake pipes eg Pro RS...
4. Better/Larger Disc Rotors
5. Better Disc Calipers

TQVM in adv.  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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For me, I will go for the brake hose 1st if pads and rotors still new. If pads and rotor also almost time then I just buy SS brake hose, pads and rotors 1 after another stock at home and change 1 shot.

By changing to SS brake hose, you can feel the brakes more firmer already one. If budget is still a concern DIY SS brake hose by tying lots of cable tie on your stock brake hose.

QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 10:55 PM)
what is TT?

Im thinking to persuade my dad let me choose Saga ..

cos macam all ppl in my circle choose Myvi over Saga

bcos of the "problems" perceived by the public over the years on Saga's image and issues

for me a SV is sufficient .. my official 1st car does not need to be high end
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The only problem you have with Saga is you will get poison with all the mods the guys have over here.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 14 2013, 12:59 AM)
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i still proceed to give the rear apm lowered springs a try, much stiffer, absolutely hate it on humps/potholes aka malaysian roads.

however the stability is there, i tried to press it from outside, as you said, only 1 bounce or barely much as the absorbers are full time engaged as the spring's much shorter than the H&R's and the absorbers, being sports oriented short stroke, it is stiff as f*** lol. http://www.thousand.com.my/index.php?m=pro...yID=41&proID=75

additionally, i've advanced my distributor ignition timing by 3-5 degrees
my mechanic help me advanced it and said right now it's the max for Ron 95, not sure how true is that, but damn my car suddenly become damn powerful lol. 130-140km/h can still see it climb decently compared to before rofl.
i think during the gymkhana sessions i could perhaps sit in 2nd gear without first gear for torque as that could upset the car balance/tires.

just tested the route from my house to kl sentral, decent twisties between duta - mahameru, averaging 130-160km/h.
feedback is really good, the stiffness really shines here, and thankfully it did not scrape the rear fenders unlike previously, probably because the absorbers are much better this time around.

it still hops a little if i throttle steer too much/too fast, however overall it's a lot more stable than before. i still prefer the old setup on a daily ride basis, however for track days, it is no doubt the current springs should fare much better. we'll see how it goes this sunday, if its really positive, i'll decide to keep the rear springs, probably have to end up keeping everything because i doubt anyone will buy the fronts only rofl. actually it does make sense though, if you have passengers at the rear, iswaras tend to sink quite a bit on stock spring/absorber setups and some humps will scrape similar to wira's.
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post Aug 15 2013, 10:52 AM

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Happy Birthday Funker
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post Aug 16 2013, 11:55 AM

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ruby, nice puppy you have there....didn't you you also pet lover. I also have pets but mine are all adopted ones. Cats, dogs, rabbits.

My highest record was having 11 cats all stray cats I picked up from the streets and from longkang. Now left 6 some pass away due to age and some where run over by cars....I have 3 dogs which where abandoned and I have 6 rabbits which was given by owner because cant take care of them.

It was a tough task when taking care of kittens that lost their mum before they were able to walk or open their eyes. I have raise a few kittens which is like the above situation and lucky they survive.

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This is one of the kitten that was abandoned and almost died.
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post Aug 16 2013, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(luckyhillkop @ Aug 16 2013, 11:57 AM)
So many cats, how in the world do u keep your house clean and in order.
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I vacuum everyday, plus I trained them to poo in the garden instead in the house. At 1st they poo&pee in the house but after you have experienced with cats then you know what signs they will do before they poo or pee. The hard time of taking care of them is when they are small after they grow up it's easier.
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post Aug 16 2013, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 16 2013, 12:01 PM)
OMG can visit your place?  wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif
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can...
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post Aug 16 2013, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(Darrenkls @ Aug 16 2013, 12:05 PM)
wow salute you bro  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
it need alot of effort to take care of so many pets.
just like taking care child.
wondering how is your house look like  hmm.gif
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It's quote tiring at 1st especially when they were still very small have to wake up every few hours to feed them via the bottle. Until they can take solid food. They start off with animal milk powder then to solid cat biscuit mix with animal milk then full grown only on solid.

QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 16 2013, 12:07 PM)
laugh.gif Cats like to do their business at the same spot everyday. Like the dump near my car parking lot at work.  doh.gif
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Yeah, that's why have to pick them up to the grass when they have not start to have habit of poo& pee inside house. Sometimes they also vomit and need to clean up also...Hahahahaha

QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 16 2013, 12:09 PM)
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naise !!!
yes me dog lover but not pet (no offense).
ayam caught by surprise  shocking.gif  by the amount of cats and rabbits you had !!!
great job by doing mother nature a honorable favour by adopting these poor little fellas.
they would have surely be dead if they were left alone by the streets.

I almost can't stand it when I need to clean the shyt and wee wee of only 2 dogs but you had 11 !!
doh.gif how did you managed to do it ?

but its good to have pets at home anyway.
sometimes these fellas are my pain / stress / fatigue cure.
spend some time to play with them can be the best medicine after all
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Sometimes, my younger bro helps out, but now he's in Japan already but now all my kittens become old cat jor so nothing to worry about them other then feeding them, bring to vet and bath once in a month. Since I've moved out my cats and dogs is with my parents since that house is bigger than my current one and they have more free place to roam around. Now I go back time to time to look after them. I didn't bring them together because my parents only 2 of them leaving in the house and if I bring away all the cats and dogs they will feel lonely at least they still have some company.

ruby, like I said train them to poo& pee at the garden loh....then will lessen very much the problem. Don't let them start the habit then you will be fine with it. Animals also like babies too you stop the habit before they get used to it.
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post Aug 16 2013, 12:53 PM

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Most important is spay your dogs or cats because this can control their population and lessen the numbers of stray and unwanted pregnancy.
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post Aug 16 2013, 03:52 PM

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Actually tail light tinting can DIY just go buy the sticker and use hair blower to tint....you buy sticker more cheaper.

Kenji, I remember last TT you told me can get OCT square type for 60 bucks?
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post Aug 17 2013, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Aug 16 2013, 05:14 PM)
not square type... its the top cover can open up mia... smile.gif
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Can still get it?

QUOTE(kenjilew @ Aug 17 2013, 01:16 AM)
i dunno... i pass u that time very slow only... the avanza adi tiong-ing me...
dun... u rmb i told u my case ? the "we know one ! we professional one ma! " case...
funker streetracer yo ~
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Woh...Avanza also want to kacau gaga ah.....maybe don't know how to write the word DIE...

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:02 AM)
Meanwhile, saw this on PROSBOC fesbok sad.gif WTF? Anybody got update? Meanwhile, line no good, could be last posting now.

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Damn bad....


QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 17 2013, 08:35 AM)
slow ur head, tht time i already driving about 100 liao u zoom pass me so fast...
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gorilla drive very fast one after I gave him advice....mod his balls now his ball is titanium jor....

@fruitie, since some guys want you to join TT nvm, I rugi a bit pick you up then bring you to TT.....
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post Aug 17 2013, 01:40 PM

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kenji, maybe can take photo post here and I see
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 18 2013, 08:47 PM)
I don't think OBD2 can output actual HP figure leh (HP figures from OBD2 are derived from torque, which requires you to type in the weight of the car including the driver....that might be tricky  hmm.gif )

Besides 70++hp on flywheel is a bit low on an engine that is factory rated 108hp  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 18 2013, 09:00 PM)
70HP on wheel is quite reasonable for auto Persona. I think I've heard one who did dyno get something like 70+?
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Flywheel output should be higher than WHP because it takes out the lost of power in the transmission phase. Dyno machines also will give you different figures like DynoDynamics read 13% less than Dynojet. And hud dyno and rolling dyno also gives you different readings but I prefer a rolling dyno since it takes in the rolling resistance like in actual when you are driving on the road.

WHP is always lower than EHP. Usually the brochures from manufacturing is showing the engine power rather than the WHP because I've came across a lot of Vios which Toyota rated 100+ but on dyno some are showing 90+ or some 89WHP only.

Also the types of transmission will also determined how much % of lost of power. AT tends to lost more than MT given the same engine output.

So for mengsuan, if you going for turbo project by sure to stick to the same dyno because then only it will give you accurate improvements and readings. I remember dynoed a Evo8 MR on 1 shop it reads 650hp but on another shop 620 only.

But I have to say that the Firestorm really do work after testing it.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 18 2013, 10:15 PM)
he very in the middle punya placement, i second last cry.gif
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No wonder after that pre raya run Kenji tell me dont FFK my friend's wedding (like tell me don't come to speedfest) cool2.gif because I remember he tell me to FFK my friend wedding mia in the 1st place...Hahahahaha

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post Aug 19 2013, 04:02 PM

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TWI to Kenji is Tire Whacking Indicator

Celest Lee, woh~~~~you remind of 20% angel 80% devil...

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post Aug 19 2013, 04:09 PM

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I can't find the definition of Tarp by Googling...come back as tarpaulin...some sort of a sheet or cover...
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post Aug 19 2013, 07:49 PM

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Another very uninformed guy who comments about the Proton Suprima S doh.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 20 2013, 08:57 AM)
says the one who before this tumpang kereta sahaja.
i tot only sista Celest-Lee only done that. never tot u ill be the same also.
what makes you decided to traded your stock tyres?
what's the fastest speed u ever done until now?
the longest distance u drive so far?
still wishing for the first female gaga owner to attend TT.

eh, dares sudah molest suprime or not?
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iskazulka, then I go pick up fruitie for you loh...you belanja me roti telur bawang + teh tarik icon_idea.gif

madman20, this nick sounds very familiar...

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