I understand where you are coming from. But they have been protected for far too long to not have achieved something they should have by today. If they have done well, they could have achieved the economic scale of production which would lower the manufacturing cost.

I still could not get over the quality control issues plaguing their previous cars and the very public statement made by its director

Quality too low, Savvy production stopped.

(Kuala Lumpur 26 Jun) Proton announced that the company will stop producing Savvy, which has been in the market for almost 7 years, claiming that the compact car is tarnishing the company's image due to the extremely poor quality.

Proton's Managing Director Dato' Seri Syed Zainal described Proton Waja 1.8L and Savvy 1.2L produced from the collaboration with Renault as a painful lesson.

Launched in Jun 2005, Savvy is to take over the Tiara as Proton's new compact car model.

Savvy's quality tarnishing company's image.

Syed Zainal admits that Proton's car have quality problems, the decision to retire Savvy is because SAvvy's quality is tarnishing Proton's image.

Syed Zainal told reporters when attending 2011 GLC Open Day that retiring Savvy does not mean the model is defective, Proton also will not recall all the Savvy that are sold.

Savvy is using the Renault made D4F engine while Waja 1.8L is using F4P engine but owners of the vehicle has been complaining about the problems that had, today a participants inquire Syed Zainal about the complains, hoping that Proton pay attention to the issue.

Customer complains are decreasing

Syed Zainal pointed out that Proton is not a flawless company but the complains they received for the past 5 years has been decreasing.

He stated that when some Malaysians criticize the quality of Proton cars, it is all based on their own personal impression and rumors, some of them never even drive a Proton before.

He mentioned that Proton cannot be blamed for the problems with Proton cars because all the parts are supplied by suppliers.

"Please do not put the blame on Proton, Proton makes 700 cars per day, that's 1 car every 98 seconds, we do not have the time to check on Proton parts."

Earlier, Syed Zainal Abidin in his speech mentioned that Proton will emphasise on "Cheap selling price with cheap maintenance parts" principle to prevent having problems with expensive parts for cheap cars.

He stated that proton has been planning to move the company's market to foreign country. The target is to increase Proton's foreign market share to 72% by 2016. Currently foreign and local market are equal.

"UAE, India, China and Middle Eastern country is our targeted foreign market."

Syed Zainal stated that Proton is facing a shortage of qualified personnels instead of planning and funding when moving to foreign market.

Oriental Sauce
Cannot find English/Malay version of this.

agree with you...
if all malaysian support p1 n p2.. fore sure T n H will reduce the price...

12 month of bonus.... they must have very high profit margin.... dammm...

haha...now u know, this is actually the reason why ppl always say proton QC not very good
and that it has vibration
its because of this
and its designed like that
but in this case, if this is your car, u can ask the SC to adjust it back
they design like this, few piece assembled together is made for easy dismantle incase anything inside is broken and need fixing
compared to like toyota and honda, theirs are 1 piece...meaning its 1 giant piece from left to right...thats why it looks neat but if anything inside need fixing, the whole pieve need to be remove

what i know, global car is, a car model that can penetrate any market in this world..it will do well in US, europe, africa, china, be it any where in the world, it is sell-able..because the design and spec is accepted by many people with its price..

1.6 turbo give up to 240nm. You can't even match the word stupid. Haha

When I test drive 316i, I don't feel it sluggish, but it is expensive indeed. Yea many fanboy said that its 1.6T is gOod enough, heck, that's your money, just go ahead and and buy it. Laugh

Arab Proton Half Price on Aug 19, 2013 at 9:24 am

I will never buy Proton because Proton cars are sold for half price in Saudi and Arab countries. Exactly half price. Yes, people may argue that tax is cheaper there but Proton was conceived to give cheaper cars to the rakyat of Malaysia. If they cannot do this, in the first place, Proton should not be born. The Malaysian government should practice – charity begins at home. Give your rakyat first, then give the world second. In this case, Proton should be given special privileges of tax so that, we also can sell Proton to Malaysians at the price what the Arabs pay. It is unfair when Arabs pay half the price of all the Proton cars and we, our own Malaysian, pay double the price for a car that is originally Made in Malaysia. Otherwise, why even create Proton in 1985? It can be seen that, without protectionism to Proton ie MITI controlling price of Japanese brands, even Honda, Toyota and Nissan can sell their cars for RM50,000. So, why create Proton in the first place when you cannot give the rakyat of Malaysia cars costing less than RM50,000, which the Japanese can give?

someone post this.. so i'm just curious why are we buying proton ? coz we need to love malaysia brand ? or just buying for the sake of buying ?

Hi gray
mind to explain why u still choose suprima s over inspira? Despite inspira being more rigid, stable, fun to drive and silent?
coz im choosing between this two, im more incline toward inspira due to the design but suprima specs is more better.
would like to test both car but when i went to COE and a another dealer no test car available for both..only sit in the display

btw  for paying dp with cc..much reward points can gain there and the dividend earn when invest

What about the part export car is better quality than malaysia one. Do they still do that? We pay higher price for low quality car.like when I bought a wira. My fren bought an export wira that rejected by uk. You can feel the different.

All the malaysia seafood supply to Singapore is top grade.

Dunno How fresh to be selling in s'pore even me to buy back to JB.

So you can expected, how they doing it.. In the exported markets.

I got no idea why ppl wanna buy this car. IMO, it is wrong pricing.

For its categories, as compare to 4 door hatch back.. I believe it on size and feature, it may offer the most.

In terms of price, for the same price u could buy:-
2013 Vios J - 73k
Honda Jazz - 74k
Honda Jazz hybrid after discount
Nissan Almera
Kia Forte
Perodua Alza

In terms of after sales, i think Japs after sales is way better than Proton Tidak Apa After Sales.

Anyway, thats just my opinion.

Hi guys, I'm sorry if I offended suprima supporter.
I did mention IN MY OPINION, right ?

Anyway, the money is ur. Buy whatever u like. Just dun regret and post stuff like... The problem sent to the service center until now cannot solve. Ex waja user here.

Then just put there, 1.6T for turbo, 1.6, non-turbo. Easy.

maybe proton just want to make the design "timeless".

where do they produce supreme S, if in tanjung malim, what they can do is to set up a quality inspection bay. till the car that just come out of factory not quality verified, the car cannot be send to customer.

i think most customer won't mind to received the car a bit late, as long the quality of the car is preserve better.

next model, facelift by proton must use hot press forming. hoping next cycle saga to include this.

180bhp at 180+ Nm ..that's very impressive. But it is not factory fitted. We will leave that for another day.

The main reason of downsizing and turbo-charging engines is better fuel consumption efficiency. That's the very reason they put in 1.6 Turbo instead of 2.0 NA (Proton does not have 2.0 engine anyway). But what's the point if it consumes more fuel in the end? You can't say it's the "sporty" version (because they hit max torque earlier) when they match that with a bloody CVT.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Proton driver myself. I always think the engine is holding back the superb handling.

Yes you are right. If that is the case, CFE is still missing out 2.0 NA's FC by over 30%.
I've never heard about NFE. They are finally going to put in at least variable timing?
Haha
This is what I mean. Seems like more can be squeezed out from the current CFE if they tweak further.

The one I compared it to was the one without the supercharger (not the twincharger version with ~160hp). It's a fair comparison, and showing where most engines are compared to the TSi.

The only 2 difference in stats are the torque figure and engine capacity. The 1.4 TSi surprisingly producing over 40Nm of torque at lower rpms. VW is smarter in mating turbos and gearboxes to their engines and that was the whole point.

Proton Preve Interior Sucks.Only the Exterior is good.The body design is good.The meter sucks.Exora meter is much better.Proton is very inpassion,they can't wait to release the Suprima S so they put Preve interior into the Suprima S.Engine is same as Preve CFE.Suspension from Lotus.If they was passion enuff,then a better interior would have been fitted into the Suprima S.6 Airbags.The price for Suprima S Premium is 80K(same as eb premium) and I think 70 or 76K for Executive.

EDITED DUE TO SOME PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND(sorry cuz I'm using iPad)