U mean ES14? That is quite a retro classic but for beginners, it's advisable to try some new speakers 1st before embarking on the used market (there's quite a lotta bargains to be had here once you know what kinda sound u like and have certain targets in mind, but bear in mind there exist also tonnes of crap load in this market which can be frustrating and confusing for starters).

I would suggest going with what u had in mind earlier & newer designs (no doubt speakers per se hasn't made much of a light-year leap in terms of technology from granny days till now but there has been some significant improvement & trickle-down technology so to say ..ie Thiel showcases all-new metal drivers in their new CS3.7 & metal sound planet diamond speakers etc... hehe)

BTW mystical, u sold the CA 640A V2 already? What didn't u like about them?

Cheers

At its price RM 1750, theres nothing to complain about the CA 640A V2 amp.
I just couldn't pass on a good offer for the Euphonic Pre and Power Combo

I c, hope u aren't talking about Cyberjaya's Euphonic AMP-80 that debut in Star some time back...

I supposed u r talking about the the iAMP500 & the like, quite massive watts here, which one did u get? These look more suited for studio use

**So as not to hijack the thread, here's some audioreview goodies for Renovatio who started this thread:
http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speakers/bo...92_4290crx.aspx

why? it sucks that much?

No, not at all, after all Malaysia boleh!!

We 'should' whenever possible but Malaysian products to support our own economy, ....but where hifi is concerned.........no comment

Are you serious buyer or just asking to survey only?
I know a guy selling B&W speakers (in Penang) but need to check with him whether he is still in business or not.

This post has been edited by DAViS: May 28 2006, 04:00 AM

Heh, the "charlize" from diyparadise.com (malaysian) is rated as the best tripath TA2020 amp out there at the moment planning to get a pair, wire them for balanced operation... *dreams*

yeo now does caseworks for the Charlize at a price right?
go for it Tachi, only USD600 for a balanced amp. c'mon, only RM2k.

Hahaha... yah Tachi, I mentally support you!

yehhh RM2k only daaaaaamn cheap... for a balanced amp

but dream only lah >_< no-one so free to help me build it >_<

Ode to Charlize is good, there are always exceptions (hehehe), but doesn't come with a case, gotta DIY yourself, and then again to be fair, the thing that makes Charlize special is the Tripath chip which is from Santa Clara (don't think this is in M'sia at the moment) but credit be due to Yeo for designing it......Malaysia boleh lo

at RM2k, i'll build a balanced one for you, including the power supply. how about that?
and i'll give 1 year warranty also!


Malaysia don't have them. and schematics are freaking hard to get. never stumbled on one before.

Massive watts doesn't always equal better in all situations. I like it because it sounds damn good to me in my system (it does highlight some weakness in my system though) and hopefully will in the future with my future standmount (when I replace my EPOS, those of u wanna buy get ready , its gonna go dirt cheap ). I'll admit I don't really care about the Malaysia Boleh thing (selfish?) but was pleasantly suprised when I've heard this myself driving ODEON and Audio Physic floorstanders and the DIAPASON standmounts. Its kinda ironic when I think of it, my EPOS is actually slightly harder to drive then those speakers

Anyway lets not digress, this is a thread about B&W DM601 S3.

Anyway lets not digress, this is a thread about B&W DM601 S3.

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IMHO, an over priced item. suggest to carry out more audition.

If you know him, give me the phone number or email Yes, serious buyer. BTW, Scotty already quoted Rm1800 for the pair of speakers

mystical, what speakers do u have in mind to replace the Epos? Floorstanders?
Also, is your ES14 biwire or the older single wire version? Comes in black ash or walnut finish?

Renovatio, back to thread on B&W601 vs 602 S3, get the smaller one if u listen relatively near-field in a small room, otherwise the bigger brother moves more air. I somehow never favoured their Sorento(grey baffle) style. Much prefer the black baffle with cheery finish. Anyway, try the Rotel amps/CDP with B&W 600series, they seem to gel quite nicely and many reviewers pair them up for reviews.

Cheers

I just suggest trying the EPOS 14 as an interesting alternative. I've never actually heard it myself. There's a second hand (or maybe older) at Audio Image. Saying that its quite old tech but I dunno...there are ppl who still love the Apogees so who am I to say?

I can't accomodate floorstanders in my room. I haven't really found the right standmount yet. I listened to a nice Dali Ikon 2 on their setup at Wisma Audio. The sound is somehow similar to my EPOS and cleaner and a bit on the analytical side but it may be only a small improvement so I might pass over it. I like the Haydn Grand but I don't like the highs. It reminded me of the HD650 with stock cable, natural midrange but artificial highs. Saying that, the midrange of the Haydn does not sound like the HD 650 but the highs does give me that HD 650 impression. Its from Music By Design by the way. Simon says its not burned in though.

I guess I'll make my decision after the AV fest if ever.

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Anyway lets not digress, this is a thread about B&W DM601 S3.

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IMHO, an over priced item. suggest to carry out more audition.

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Care to elaborate more?

Saying that, I don't even know the price

Mysticaldodo, can I subscribe to your used equipment buyer list?

I remembered that Epos has its very own spkr stand. My br has a pair of this for his ES