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miaopurr
post Aug 25 2013, 10:37 PM

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srsly, dis iz funny

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post Aug 26 2013, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Aug 25 2013, 10:37 PM)
srsly, dis iz funny

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tat comment is some epic trolling...
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post Aug 26 2013, 01:08 AM

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i can't agree more!
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post Aug 26 2013, 09:14 AM

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they need someone better doing their branding...
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post Aug 26 2013, 09:24 AM

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that man needs to HTFU
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post Aug 26 2013, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Aug 26 2013, 09:24 AM)
that man needs to HTFU
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i think it's just too much for him after realizing his mistake trading in his 26" steed for wat he thought was a the greatest invention ever in MTB history...

mental breakdown....
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post Aug 26 2013, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Aug 24 2013, 09:54 PM)
it's like saying you are still a P driver... should not drive manual, why not buy an auto car first and once you are more experienced only you come back buy a manual... sounds more like he is hoping you buy 2 bikes from him...

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my next car would be EcoBoost 1.0L engine manual transmission, if the prices are priced at right price i.e RM65k or less.

i think my legs and hands are gatal....
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post Aug 26 2013, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Aug 26 2013, 10:02 AM)
my next car would be EcoBoost 1.0L engine manual transmission, if the prices are priced at right price i.e RM65k or less.

i think my legs and hands are gatal....
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i can bet you my ball bearings that it will never be less than RM65k...you are lucky if the thing don't creep past RM80k...
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post Aug 26 2013, 10:28 AM

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Thx for the Putrajay info. Just done riding in putrajaya last weekend. Good experience riding along the road with nice scenery around.

By the way, I would like to upgrade my wheelsets. Looking at the Zipp brand which is quite expensive. Any other brand which on par with the Zipp performance?

Currently, I was scouting on Zipp 30 / Dura-Ace C24 or more aero & expensive wheel like Zipp 60 Honestly, will there be any performance differences between those wheel, like how they handle crosswind, sprinting acceleration? My training cycling route is 80% flat, 20% hills.

Any other wheelset to suggest around Rm3k-3.5k?
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post Aug 26 2013, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(yoonyin @ Aug 26 2013, 10:28 AM)
Any other wheelset to suggest around Rm3k-3.5k?
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fulcrum racing zero or campy shamal ultra
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post Aug 26 2013, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(yoonyin @ Aug 26 2013, 10:28 AM)
Thx for the Putrajay info. Just done riding in putrajaya last weekend. Good experience riding along the road with nice scenery around.

By the way, I would like to upgrade my wheelsets. Looking at the Zipp brand which is quite expensive. Any other brand which on par with the Zipp performance?

Currently, I was scouting on Zipp 30 / Dura-Ace C24 or more aero & expensive wheel like Zipp 60 Honestly, will there be any performance differences between those wheel, like how they handle crosswind, sprinting acceleration? My training cycling route is 80% flat, 20% hills.

Any other wheelset to suggest around Rm3k-3.5k?
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Zipp is zipp... they are sort of premium wheels to begin with...

if you aim for Zipp 30, i think it's a waste of money since that is practically a re-branded sram s series wheel and does not have the current firecrest shape the current zipp line up is running... c24 is considered an all rounder / climbing wheel for its weight... not a good choice if you have more flats than climbs... furthermore, hard to get your hands on them here... broken spokes, even bigger ???...

for the RM3k range you can have Profile Altair 52 carbon clincher for RM3.8k +- or some reynolds wheel can't remember the model...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Aug 26 2013, 10:29 AM)
fulcrum racing zero or campy shamal ultra
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dia 80% flat lar...
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post Aug 26 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Aug 26 2013, 11:06 AM)
dia 80% flat lar...
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for that price range, i'd advise those wheels. it's like, getting an entry level carbon frame vs high end alu frame for a given budget.
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post Aug 26 2013, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Aug 26 2013, 11:17 AM)
for that price range, i'd advise those wheels. it's like, getting an entry level carbon frame vs high end alu frame for a given budget.
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got other also geh... Mavic Cosmic alu... something "not up not down"... haha

but, if he wants some carbon aero.. can consider those reynolds and profile also la... jus make sure buy adi no regret...
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post Aug 26 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Aug 26 2013, 11:20 AM)
got other also geh... Mavic Cosmic alu... something "not up not down"... haha

but, if he wants some carbon aero.. can consider those reynolds and profile also la... jus make sure buy adi no regret...
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R0 n shamal ultra ceramic bearing ooo.... superior braking performance. no need to worry about riding in the rain. sub 1.5kg weight.
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post Aug 26 2013, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Aug 26 2013, 11:22 AM)
R0 n shamal ultra ceramic bearing ooo.... superior braking performance. no need to worry about riding in the rain. sub 1.5kg weight.
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aiyar.. watever lar... his money.. let him decide...

there is too many choice out there lar... who knows maybe he find money to buy some lightweights later and you and i both gotta shut our mouth...
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post Aug 26 2013, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Aug 26 2013, 10:12 AM)
i can bet you my ball bearings that it will never be less than RM65k...you are lucky if the thing don't creep past RM80k...
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the up and coming new facelift is 1.5L with 6-speeds powerswift are estimated selling price at RM88,888 ! HUAT HUAT all the way up to heaven! haha...

im putting un-reasonable target, so im forever no need get the car. my money is safe in pocket.

btw, it's seem not very well known publish on the Sentul Race Series event!
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post Aug 26 2013, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Aug 26 2013, 11:57 AM)
the up and coming new facelift is 1.5L with 6-speeds powerswift are estimated selling price at RM88,888 ! HUAT HUAT all the way up to heaven! haha...

im putting un-reasonable target, so im forever no need get the car. my money is safe in pocket.

btw, it's seem not very well known publish on the Sentul Race Series event!
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no interest in a ford... i hate it when people say "butthead's ford" sounds like "butthead's fault"...why is it my fault for buying a ford???...and since collin mcrae sudah tak adak lagi.. i no longer have any liking for ford...it's an overpriced piece of tomyum made crap that people perceived as euro...

sentul race??? i thought sentul famous for banana leave rice only... i sked if i partake... halfway only i sudah masuk kedai makan banana leave rice...

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post Aug 26 2013, 12:11 PM

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Hehe, thx for the info. Basically i am a Solo rider, feel that aero wheelset will help me better cruising around on flat. Currently just using stock wheel (alex rim) come with my Merida road bike

Well, seem like no point getting zipp 30. How about the Zipp 60? seem like not much review found on the web. It seem like the performance is in between 303 & 404.

I also looked at the Fulcrum Racing Zero (not a deep rim design) & Reynolds Assult too. Just wondering is there a noticeable feel and result when riding let say Fulcrum Zero compare with other Aero Wheelset ?
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post Aug 26 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(yoonyin @ Aug 26 2013, 12:11 PM)
Hehe, thx for the info. Basically i am a Solo rider, feel that aero wheelset will help me better cruising around on flat. Currently just using stock wheel (alex rim) come with my Merida road bike

Well, seem like no point getting zipp 30. How about the Zipp 60? seem like not much review found on the web. It seem like the performance is in between 303 & 404.

I also looked at the Fulcrum Racing Zero (not a deep rim design) & Reynolds Assult too. Just wondering is there a noticeable feel and result when riding let say Fulcrum Zero compare with other Aero Wheelset ?
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the thing is zipp made the 30 / 60 and 101 to satisfy the people who does not have the money to buy their premium wheels... it is practically old stuff and is more often than none over-priced... so, unless you die die want zipp.. i would say stay off those wheels... the 101 itself would cost RM3k... how much would you think the zipp 30 or 60 cost at our shores? that's the whole reason why sram could not sell their wheels and have to instead consolidate back into zipp as they could leverage on the brand to sell the wheels instead of sram a practically unknown and unproven wheel maker although they claim it has zipp's technology (old one).... for zipp, it's either you go all out or you don't...

i am not sure what you define aero as... aero is not only about rim depth.. it has gotten a whole lot more complicated by also being thrown more developed stuff like different rim shapes that not only cuts through wind in a straight line but optimizes aero performances at yaw angles, dealing with crosswinds better / more stability, cleaner airflow leading into the frame (to work with aero frames and shit if you believe them)...and all this stuff comes at a premium price... the cheap ones are just v-shaped, high depth and that's all you get for an aero wheel definition...

and when you go high rim depth.. you gain easier rolling at speeds or heavy wind but sacrifices your spin up rate of the wheel as you have more weight being put on the rims compared to the lower depth ones... it's give and take on either wheel you choose... that is why zipp made 202 for climbers, 404 for rouleurs and 303 for everything in between...
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post Aug 26 2013, 01:27 PM

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fark it. just go with zipp 303 firecrest. all-rounder. u can even go on a sunday in hell with those 303s

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