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Investment YOUNGSTERS, PLEASE RENT FIRST BEFORE BUYING..., Dont rush accumulating unaffordable debt

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post Aug 3 2013, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Aug 3 2013, 04:15 AM)
I was a runner at layer office and saw workmate clicking MYEG button. With simple thinking and not intelligent in real life,I was thinking the future will be internet world, government link some more,cheap, afforable and blue chip.

I take the risk Interest rate vs Appreciation Capital. Long Run so it is not a gamble.

Buy 30 sen++ become sell 90 sen onwards. Appreciation more than tiga kali ganda. (Good Investment for me than investing property)

For own stay property buy what I can afford.
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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Aug 3 2013, 04:15 AM)
I was a runner at layer office and saw workmate clicking MYEG button. With simple thinking and not intelligent in real life,I was thinking the future will be internet world, government link some more,cheap, afforable and blue chip.

I take the risk Interest rate vs Appreciation Capital. Long Run so it is not a gamble.

Buy 30 sen++ become sell 90 sen onwards. Appreciation more than tiga kali ganda. (Good Investment for me than investing property)

For own stay property buy what I can afford.
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hmm, the question is how much u earn? and how much u earn from 2000 - 2013?
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post Aug 3 2013, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(ecin @ Aug 2 2013, 04:07 PM)
IMHO, ppl who say Firmly I'd rather buy than rent statement (but many youngsters want to buy out of their affordability):

It's normal, it could be due to,
1. never experienced/never tried to know 1998 economic crisis, back then the rental vs installment vs interest rate all were at different mathematic outcome
2. been influenced by recent years seeing the price UP UP UP .. yahoo!
3. etc

A real case:
Recently with my fren I've seen a lady very happily viewed a 650K house, really I can't put it into words how excited she was from her words & gestures.
She seriously wanted to place deposit already, want 90% loan.

When it comes to profile checking, she said she is earning RM2300 a month gross pay, on-hand commitment is RM600 per month.
Then my fren tried to help her further by asking if she considers joint name with her husband, she+husband is earning RM5000 per month gross pay, Commitment: current apartment paying RM800 per month & just bought a new Branded car monthly installment RM1500.
Currently on-hand Commitment altogether: RM2900.

What do you think about this case? This case of course can't pass.
The above is just to share some youngsters they're just never consider about consequences.
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2.3k want buy 650k house?
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post Aug 3 2013, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(airline @ Aug 3 2013, 02:38 PM)
2.3k want buy 650k house?
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post Aug 3 2013, 02:42 PM

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I ve seen many ppl did that especially those go buy soho with a hope of flipping. With disposable income take place I really wonder how they survived monthly. Kota Damansara will be the witness to what it will lead.
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Most of people in my age group are now living beyond our means. That is why I say "if you cannot afford based on salary on paper, just forget it.... but die die want to buy Commercial house to flip"
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flip flip flip, balakong later will build soho for public to join flip. CHeers.
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hmm..my turn to give my opinion also...haha

in every thing in life, we need different ppl with different roles to play...
in a competition, you need a winner and a loser else it's not called a competition...
in a trade agreement you need a seller and a buyer, else no trade can happen...
in nature, there is predator and a prey, then it's a cycle of life...
ying and yang, smart and stupid, the list goes on....

so in this case (property market), we need people who are seller, buyer, tenant, motivated/desperate seller, desperate tenant, etc the list goes on.....
so if young ppl BBB like buy vege, i would say pls go ahead don't stop, if that makes you happy....
if young ppl want to rent, also go ahead, the market also need ppl to rent else no one can find tenant...

my point is there's no should or should not.... right or wrong... is just different people playing their different roles in the same game.

Cheers.... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif




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QUOTE(Mambasm @ Aug 3 2013, 05:26 PM)
hmm..my turn to give my opinion also...haha

in every thing in life, we need different ppl with different roles to play...
in a competition, you need a winner and a loser else it's not called a competition...
in a trade agreement you need a seller and a buyer, else no trade can happen...
in nature, there is predator and a prey, then it's a cycle of life...
ying and yang, smart and stupid, the list goes on....

so in this case (property market), we need people who are seller, buyer, tenant, motivated/desperate seller, desperate tenant, etc the list goes on.....
so if young ppl BBB like buy vege, i would say pls go ahead don't stop, if that makes you happy....
if young ppl want to rent, also go ahead, the market also need ppl to rent else no one can find tenant...

my point is there's no should or should not.... right or wrong... is just different people playing their different roles in the same game.

Cheers.... icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 3 2013, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Mambasm @ Aug 3 2013, 05:26 PM)
hmm..my turn to give my opinion also...haha

in every thing in life, we need different ppl with different roles to play...
in a competition, you need a winner and a loser else it's not called a competition...
in a trade agreement you need a seller and a buyer, else no trade can happen...
in nature, there is predator and a prey, then it's a cycle of life...
ying and yang, smart and stupid, the list goes on....

so in this case (property market), we need people who are seller, buyer, tenant, motivated/desperate seller, desperate tenant, etc the list goes on.....
so if young ppl BBB like buy vege, i would say pls go ahead don't stop, if that makes you happy....
if young ppl want to rent, also go ahead, the market also need ppl to rent else no one can find tenant...

my point is there's no should or should not.... right or wrong... is just different people playing their different roles in the same game.

Cheers.... icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Youngster no BBB --> I got tenant thumbup.gif

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post Aug 3 2013, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(woolei @ Aug 2 2013, 09:34 PM)
hmm.gif  rent house = save money?

The market will never burst when we got many renting demand.
U r part of it.
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the market will still burst if renting demand is only in low-medium cost/high density areas.

many factors will lead to market downturn. while decreasing property demand is one of the factor, it doesn't have to be initiated by it.

your argument is way too broad.

renting gives you the option to wait and buy when affordability fits in your budget, i.e. saving your bullets. of course it depends on how much you are renting, and how discipline are you in saving. With more disposable income, the individual will be able to grab opportunities in other financial markets like stocks, commodities, etc. I refuse to buy my first house yet, can't commit much of my income when there's so much opportunities in stocks, and IPO market.

It's all about the game of patience.

This post has been edited by kwh1989: Aug 3 2013, 06:46 PM
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post Aug 3 2013, 06:40 PM

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Brovo.... Agree... 'there is no should or shouldn't '
Don care about others...
Eventually the 1 who taste the fruit is the 1 who make decision. Right?
Investment or own stay, 3k salary to buy 600k/800k property so wat? If got some1 willing to give financial support (banker or family) and u willing to take the risk just go head. Why not? Young ppl age is your asset take the risk as in young age coz when u go older u will not dare to take the risk. No risk no gain but remember no investment is 100% gain.

QUOTE(Mambasm @ Aug 3 2013, 05:26 PM)
hmm..my turn to give my opinion also...haha

in every thing in life, we need different ppl with different roles to play...
in a competition, you need a winner and a loser else it's not called a competition...
in a trade agreement you need a seller and a buyer, else no trade can happen...
in nature, there is predator and a prey, then it's a cycle of life...
ying and yang, smart and stupid, the list goes on....

so in this case (property market), we need people who are seller, buyer, tenant, motivated/desperate seller, desperate tenant, etc the list goes on.....
so if young ppl BBB like buy vege, i would say pls go ahead don't stop, if that makes you happy....
if young ppl want to rent, also go ahead, the market also need ppl to rent else no one can find tenant...

my point is there's no should or should not.... right or wrong... is just different people playing their different roles in the same game.

Cheers.... icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 3 2013, 08:08 PM

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A lawyer's advising us about property investment?
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post Aug 3 2013, 08:23 PM

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if loan can pass base on the salary slip, why not...
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Post 92 and Post 88 is the right answer to the question.

I don't want to see this thread anymore.
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what a really good advice
rent first
so that we will be your income to "fund" your monthly installment

then you use the profit to fund your next property
greedy ******* keep buying property one after another
rent keep renting until old

rich get richer
poor stay poor
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post Aug 3 2013, 11:32 PM

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No matter how if youngster wanna buy anythings happen they will know. I also hope BLR maintain or market good.
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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Aug 3 2013, 11:32 PM)
No matter how if youngster wanna buy anythings happen they will know. I also hope BLR maintain or market good.
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no need to hope....it wont happen.
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QUOTE(kwh1989 @ Aug 3 2013, 06:39 PM)
the market will still burst if renting demand is only in low-medium cost/high density areas.

many factors will lead to market downturn. while decreasing property demand is one of the factor, it doesn't have to be initiated by it.

your argument is way too broad.

renting gives you the option to wait and buy when affordability fits in your budget, i.e. saving your bullets. of course it depends on how much you are renting, and how discipline are you in saving. With more disposable income, the individual will be able to grab opportunities in other financial markets like stocks, commodities, etc. I refuse to buy my first house yet, can't commit much of my income when there's so much opportunities in stocks, and IPO market. 

It's all about the game of patience.
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hmm.gif you got your own point, keep it up as long as you got a good plan.

hmm.gif i would still ask you to get a affordable house to stay first if you are renting right now, i feel sick when paying rent to house owner (last time).
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Aiyah, why need to worry?
Best option

- Rent a room at rm500 near workplace or rm200 with travel needs(everywhere can find, need not to argue)

- 'Diversify' your source of income

- Buy first one, then buy second one and keep going like momentum F=ma, where m is the knowledge n persistency

- when passive > decent car installment, change a nice car! Someone pays for you, so what's wrong with having new car!

Then the F becomes stronger and move like speed light!

Most problem here is 'I want lifestyle' so sorry.
- I want good food to upload to Facebook
- I want nice trip to share on Instagram
- I want nice GF to chat in whatsapp
- I want nice car to tweet on tweeter
- I want to hang with friends but never treat on family's dinner

Knowing why is easy, knowing WHAT TO DO is almost impossible to most of them. To change something you don't change don't make any difference by sailang all into property gamble.

UNDERSTAND WHY.

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