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Investment YOUNGSTERS, PLEASE RENT FIRST BEFORE BUYING..., Dont rush accumulating unaffordable debt

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post Aug 2 2013, 01:38 PM, updated 13y ago

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Rent first before you buy
02 August 2013| last updated at 09:38PM
http://www.nst.com.my/red/rent-first-before-you-buy-1.331006

BUY LATER: Khairul gives a compelling argument why it’s better for first-time home buyers to rent first before buying
You have just graduated and you have just snagged your dream job. You bought your first car and you found a life partner whom you want to settle down with. All these happened within a space of five years after you graduated. With all these milestones lined up in your life, you think you are ready for that next big step. After all, all those books said you should do it. You have saved enough and you know the pitfalls and of course, you have heard about the success stories. This is it.

You are going to buy a house!
Stop.


Why don‘t you consider some of these facts first before you buy a house? Houses are expensive. Even authors who say you should buy a house as an investment said a house is one of the most expensive purchases you will ever spend on in your lifetime. If that is true, you should really think hard before immediately buying one. Here is an idea every young person thinking of buying a house should contemplate when you are starting a family - rent first before you buy a house.

Similar returns

There is evidence that investing in a house will bring you the same return if you invest in various other instruments such as Amanah Saham Bumiputra or in the share market. These investments have cheaper costs than the purchase of property. Property investments are more sophisticated than other investments but people still line up at property sales to buy houses even if they cannot afford to buy or understand the complexity of buying a house. They do it because they were told by family and friends that you need to buy a house when you have reached a certain stage in life. You will be losing the next big wave if you don’t buy now, they warn.

When you decide to buy a house just because you want a starter home, you buy it for the wrong reason. A starter home should be purchased if you can afford it. If not, why don‘t you just rent? You can postpone the purchase of your starter home until you find the right house. Have you considered the neighbourhood? Have you gotten to know the neighbours? Have you seen the infrastructure within your would-be house (for those buying under-construction properties)? The community halls, prayer places, and the need for pest control. As a former property owner of a new neighbourhood in Shah Alam, half of my former neighbours have moved elsewhere (including me) as we found out the neighbourhood was too far from our workplace and the promised infrastructure was never built.

People are always buying houses near where they work. Why don‘t you live for a few years first at a location which you think is the most likely place that you will be settling down? Rent a house and experience the neighbourhood there.

The argument that the price of property will never come down is not a good argument. The argument that you will need a house during your old age is also not the best argument around. These should not be the only reasons why you buy a house. Understand the cost, the need and the requirements of maintaining a house as you are just starting out in life. As a property lawyer, I found house buyers nowadays tend not to know enough about buying a house or the liabilities that come with it.

Discipline of monthly payments

By renting first, especially in an area where you have decided you want to settle later in life, you can gauge whether the neighbourhood is good for you. You can also learn to discipline yourself to reserve some money every month for rent. If you are able to pay rent, you can then manage to pay your installments when you buy a house later. You will also learn how to manage the maintenance of a house.

Maintaining a house is not as easy as it sounds as any house owner can attest. In the interim, you can save money to buy that house in some interest-bearing investment schemes.

With rental, you can also manage your utilities payment and if you choose to live in a strata development, you will need to budget for payment of service charges and understand why your water bill is never zero even when you are not at home. When you live in a landed property, you need to maintain your garden and ensure the garbage collection is regular, your assessment rate bill and quit rent are up to date (although this is usually paid by the landlord, understand their functions) and the repair of fittings and fixtures are kept in check. When you can appreciate the rental home you are living in as much as if it’s your own, you will then be ready to buy a house.

One final note why renting first before you buy is better, you can always move somewhere else if you have bad neighbours, if your school-going children do not like their friends, or if you have barking dogs terrorising your cats. You will even get your deposit back when you move out from your rented house. On the other hand, if you have already purchased the property, it will be costly for you to sell it. Heck, in certain cases, you can even lose money.

So, the next time you are thinking about buying a house to live in, think hard about the responsibility of owning a home and plan well.

Khairul Anuar bin Shaharudin is a lawyer and author of ‘40 More Questions You Should Ask Your Lawyer Before Buying A Residential Property in Malaysia’.You can contact him at: khairulsuhailahazlina@yahoo.com.


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post Aug 2 2013, 01:46 PM

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U youngsters too, but u BBB...


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Buy more please... i want to see more bankrupcy... drool.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Aug 2 2013, 01:50 PM

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Can rent first, but have to buy < 5 years after work, OR < 30 years old.

Else, many here will be happy with the huge tenant pool.

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What I feel is too many people like me who are barely afford "luxury" properties are BBB.... just like those cars (thanks to PaulTan).

We need to RENT first and TAKE public transport first. Priority is that if it is convenient enough.

(Don't udstand why ppl die-die BBB property so far away from their workplace and expensive at record prices. It would have been better if they rent near their office first.)

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post Aug 2 2013, 01:59 PM

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If you are targeting for living quality, rent. Some prime location landed properties valued at 2 mil in the market are only asking for slightly above 5k rental. I don't really need an option B
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post Aug 2 2013, 02:00 PM

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coz if dont BBB, then future even more exp and unaffordable...
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QUOTE(smokey @ Aug 2 2013, 02:00 PM)
coz if dont BBB, then future even more exp and unaffordable...
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Now this is where the fault lies.

Many people who think like this is natural and correct... but let me ask them: ARE YOU BUYING FOR YOUR OWN STAY? OR INVESTING FOR LONG TERM RENTAL? If both yes, please go ahead BUY.

Problem is many people are taking time opportunity to PLAY in the property market. They are not wanting to stay at the location where they buy and they are buying beyond the average rentals against their instalment. Now this will become a big problem for the country...
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Or buy with a long term view. Property today and 10 years time will certainly not be the same by virtue of inflation tongue.gif


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post Aug 2 2013, 02:06 PM

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No worry youngster, mahsing did it again, try this https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2909773

better than PR1MA shet
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Disagree on the article above on these grounds:

1) If I rent, I'm paying the same about or slightly lower than the amount that I'll pay if I purchase a house. And also, I'm paying for someone's purchase of the house.

2) If I don't buy a house (asset), I'll most probably be buying a car (liability in disguise as an asset). I take buying a home as forced savings

3) If I rent a place for a few years, and decides to buy the place, the price may have ballooned up and capital appreciation stagnated.

4) Work place may change every now and then. Lawyers are pretty fixed, open up a firm, stay there for life or move to the shop lot next door or a lot down the street.

5) I pay RM1.8k this day is e.g. 60% of the salary, maxed out DSR. It will most probably be 30% of the salary 5 years down the line.

My opinion is that our dear lawyer should write about "Take public transport or car pool first before you buy a goddamned car"
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Article is nonsense. Buy a cheap house first. Renting is only for expatriates or students.
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DIARY TALK :::

What I feel is too many people like me who barely able to afford "luxury" properties are on denial mode. They BBB.... just like those luxury cars.

We need to RENT first and TAKE public transport first. Priority is that IF it is convenient enough and serve the same purpose as long as you have good time management.

Don't udstand why ppl die-die BBB property so far away from their workplace and expensive at record prices. It would have been better if they rent near their office first in the first few years.

Property is getting unaffordable, I need to buy now?

Many people who think like this is natural and correct... but let me ask them: ARE YOU BUYING FOR YOUR OWN STAY? OR INVESTING FOR LONG TERM RENTAL? If both yes, please go ahead BUY.

Problem is many people are ignorantly taking this "time opportunity" to participate in the booming property market without knowing the main fundamentals.

They are not wanting to stay at the location where they buy and they are buying beyond the average rentals against their instalment.

Now this will become a big problem for the country...

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post Aug 2 2013, 02:15 PM

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i'm sorry to say, but if you rent then buy, you will regret
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Aug 2 2013, 01:50 PM)
Can rent first, but have to buy < 5 years after work, OR < 30 years old.

Else, many here will be happy with the huge tenant pool.
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Can even buy earlier, buy the cheaper one, still have RM 300k+ apartment type.

Slowly upgrade like Singaporean.

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QUOTE(ProperTYcoon @ Aug 2 2013, 02:15 PM)
i'm sorry to say, but if you rent then buy, you will regret
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If youngsters cannot afford, they should rent.

In general, everyone cannot be asset owners or wanting to be asset owners. At the same time, asset owners need people who can rent too, if everyone buy, who want rent?
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post # 16, why replying your own post? looks weird. Like self interacting. Take some time off to relax

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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 2 2013, 02:21 PM)
If youngsters cannot afford, they should rent.

In general, everyone cannot be asset owners or wanting to be asset owners. At the same time, asset owners need people who can rent too, if everyone buy, who want rent?
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Rent = Expenses (Loss)

Buy = Investment (Gain)
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QUOTE(ProperTYcoon @ Aug 2 2013, 02:22 PM)
Rent = Expenses (Loss)

Buy = Investment (Gain)
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investment doesn't promise gain
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QUOTE(iloveuforever @ Aug 2 2013, 01:48 PM)
Buy more please... i want to see more bankrupcy...  drool.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 2 2013, 01:56 PM)
What I feel is too many people like me who are barely afford "luxury" properties are BBB.... just like those cars (thanks to PaulTan).

We need to RENT first and TAKE public transport first. Priority is that if it is convenient enough.

(Don't udstand why ppl die-die BBB property so far away from their workplace and expensive at record prices. It would have been better if they rent near their office first.)
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