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RoyBlue
post Aug 27 2013, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(zirconxi @ Aug 27 2013, 12:38 PM)
I did some digging using google and seems ZX6 and CBR6 frame is Alu, Z800 is not. Guess the weight had told it all.....
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Bro in that category of bikes. Power to weight ratio is very very important. Heavy weight might contribute to better stability but that is solved with fully adjustable suspensions
zirconxi
post Aug 27 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(RoyBlue @ Aug 27 2013, 10:14 PM)
I still wash it and dry it regularly bro... Road grit can be acidic...
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Looking at Malaysia Bike Price, I guess most bikers clean their bike and kept it pretty clean in Malaysia.... biggrin.gif

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RoyBlue
post Aug 27 2013, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(zirconxi @ Aug 27 2013, 11:32 AM)
Hahaha...seems like upgrading to big tourer like Z1000sx or GTR is inevitable... Not rally a big fan on liter supersport, riding position and speed is too aggressive for me, can't really handle those power....
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I think a friend of mine just picked up his 2nd hand z1k, nice bike... Orange and fully loaded with Rizoma parts... drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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post Aug 27 2013, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(zirconxi @ Aug 27 2013, 10:15 PM)
Are ER6 prone to these? So far I didn't felt any of this... Well, most of my tyre edge is still as good as new anyway... blush.gif
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I guess your tyre speaks for your riding style, anyway the ER6 is not made for kneedowns, although i know a few people who do it on their bikes.

That power loss is attributed to the bike "squat" during aggresive/race launch. More power is used to raise the front tyre than moving the bike forward. You can also say the bike absorbs the power/torque from the launch.

While too much flex is not good due to the ideal balance of handling and power delivery. Too stiff a chassis also is not good. Try ask Mr. Rossi why the Desmo is so hard to tame. Whilst they can try to harness the power delivery, the bike becomes very finicky.
TSlucifah
post Aug 28 2013, 05:47 PM

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cleveland cycle works. test rode it today.

not a superbike, but might catch everyone's attention as their second bike. review writeup coming later.

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zirconxi
post Aug 28 2013, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 28 2013, 05:47 PM)
cleveland cycle works. test rode it today.

not a superbike, but might catch everyone's attention as their second bike. review writeup coming later.

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Haha, tat's u ka Lucifah? the front wheel look huge....must be super steady...
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post Aug 28 2013, 11:40 PM

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Cleveland Cycle Works (CCW) - Tha Heist (An afternoon with a steampunk bobber) : RM 18,888 OTR with insurance

If i have one word to describe the bike, it'd be "steampunk". Seriously, this bike has the minimalist look, and is customizable in any way you want it too - all without breaking the bank.


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These bikes are eye candies. You will instantly be attracted to its look

Up till now, I have no idea what CCW are and what bikes they are offering.

I don't even know that they are locally assembled, and was pleasantly surprised with its build quality - considering that it was manufactured by Jinan Qingqi Motorcycle Company in China (I think it is outsourced to them, rather than manufactured & re-branded). Most China bikes I have came across (the CF650NK and Megelli 250 for example) do have questionable fits and finishes.

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The bike has a 229cc air-cooled, carbureted engine which is actually a copy of Honda CG engines but is updated with matte black finish (no more boring aluminum / chrome finishes here).

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It has a measly output of 10kw (about 14hp) but considering the weight of the bike (about 115kg), it is quite okay. The engine is nothing to shout about. It has absolutely no low-end torque (coming from me who is used to 2-cylinder engine) and struggles to move from a stand still (red light, round about, junction or anything). But it does has quite good mid-range power to play with.

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The bike has low seat height, slim silhouette, and coupled with the weight, beginners can adapt to riding the bike in no time. Sitting position is quite comfortable and not too intimidating since the handlebar position does not require you to stretch your arms like monkeys. The foot pegs are wide and comfortable enough for my feet. I had 10 mins ride on each bike.

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The clutch is surprisingly light (again, considering it is a China manufactured bike), and changing gears are easy. However, finding neutral is quite challenging. Perhaps I am not used to the bike, but I've ridden my fair share of other bikes.

The brakes are overkill. The large disc at the front is more than sufficient to stop the light bike. Heck, I only need to use the rear disc to control / stop the bike during my test ride

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The bike wheels are 21" for the front and 18" for the back. Being a bobber (hardtail) and with only suspended seat saddles, I was wondering how harsh the ride would be for my poor back.

The bike is easy to manouvre in traffic, and behaves well on long straights. Surprisingly, the vibrations are not that bad (or was it because of my padded gloves?) and the springy seats absorb most (key word: most) of the small bumps and ridges my lousy, small town roads can give me.

Then we come to the highlight of the bike - the sound! it is outstanding. It has a thrump-tom-thrump-tom noise, thanks to the carburetor (which was adjusted to the lowest idle possible). And of course, you'd need to replace the stock exhaust first. And to those who are worried, the custom exhaust (as seen in the picture below) cost only RM 500. Heck, even my slip-on cost 4 times that much. this is a full system! That's good price!

The noise the exhaust makes when you rev the engine high then release it, letting the bike coast, and causing all the misfires are nice. Especially when it comes from this small 250cc engine... In short, the exhaust is loud. VERY LOUD. I don't think this custom exhaust will even get approval from Abang JPJ. wink.gif

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Pricewise, the recommended price is RM 18,888 on the road with insurance and all handling charges. I'd say it is a bit on the high side as I was expecting it to be in the mid teens. It comes with 1-yr warranty. And since it is assembled locally, spare parts will be aplenty and easily available.

Overall, the bike lives up to its original idea - as a fun, highly customizable, affordable, weekend project bike.
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post Aug 29 2013, 12:35 PM

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Nice write up Luci notworthy.gif rclxms.gif
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post Aug 30 2013, 09:48 AM

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Hi, my bike. thumbup.gif
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zirconxi
post Aug 30 2013, 10:38 AM

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Errr....can't see anything....
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post Aug 30 2013, 10:54 AM

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Some confusion here on Valve clearance check for ER6, book say 42k, foreman say 24k, Friend say don't just check, change all the valves, foreman say, no need change, just check and adjust the shim, which 1 to follow?
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post Aug 30 2013, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(zirconxi @ Aug 30 2013, 10:54 AM)
Some confusion here on Valve clearance check for ER6, book say 42k, foreman say 24k, Friend say don't just check, change all the valves, foreman say, no need change, just check and adjust the shim, which 1 to follow?
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change valves? wow

Go with 24k if you can afford it.
Nothing wrong with servicing now at 24k and another at 48k.

Check and change the shim.


My shop don't want to do, because nothing wrong with my bike.
In other words, when problem, then only do?
Kinda dangerous don't you think?
Geram la with Malay businesses. Give you business but you don't want.



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post Aug 30 2013, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(junbecks @ Aug 30 2013, 11:05 AM)
change valves? wow

Go with 24k if you can afford it.
Nothing wrong with servicing now at 24k and another at 48k.

Check and change the shim.
My shop don't want to do, because nothing wrong with my bike.
In other words, when problem, then only do?
Kinda dangerous don't you think?
Geram la with Malay businesses. Give you business but you don't want.
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Wait, a mechanic that refuses to do pricey jobs unnecessarily? Where is this magical place? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(bizkutrai @ Aug 30 2013, 09:48 AM)
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Wait, is this the one appeared in the MalaysianRidersTV review ?

I meant you were the one who borrowed to them for review ? blink.gif



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TSlucifah
post Aug 30 2013, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(bizkutrai @ Aug 30 2013, 09:48 AM)
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QUOTE(zirconxi @ Aug 30 2013, 10:38 AM)
Errr....can't see anything....
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it's a panigale...

what a beauty nod.gif

take more shots of the bike!

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post Aug 30 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(zirconxi @ Aug 30 2013, 10:54 AM)
Some confusion here on Valve clearance check for ER6, book say 42k, foreman say 24k, Friend say don't just check, change all the valves, foreman say, no need change, just check and adjust the shim, which 1 to follow?
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just check and adjust clearance lerrrr
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QUOTE(bizkutrai @ Aug 30 2013, 09:48 AM)
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wanna tryyyy drool.gif
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post Sep 1 2013, 08:15 PM

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Any one have any thoughts on xj6 2013 naked? price close to er6n but its inline 4 right.
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post Sep 1 2013, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Meigamenx @ Sep 1 2013, 08:15 PM)
Any one have any thoughts on xj6 2013 naked? price close to er6n but its inline 4 right.
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errr....i think the price should be closer to ER6F, ER6n is cheaper... XJ6 is inline 4, ER6 is 2 piston only. Choose which talk to your heart. The sound? The look?
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post Sep 1 2013, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Meigamenx @ Sep 1 2013, 08:15 PM)
Any one have any thoughts on xj6 2013 naked? price close to er6n but its inline 4 right.
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the only reason you would want an XJ6 is the 4-inline exhaust noise

that's the only area where the er6 loses to the xj6

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