yo tenno is it good working in gov, i have problem working with malays... they love politics so much....

rite now i have a quite decent job that i prefer because a lot of travelling , and that's what i want...

is it good to be a PTD, is it good?

i prefer to be MCS rather than PTD, at least it's british...

haha.. theres so much for being a third class degree... but u made it thru rite tenno?

i dont wanna stress up myself towards tis interview session. just wanna do the documentation thing earlier coz im afraid im not be able to spend more time on it later. ive got lots of work to be handle and i dunno if i have a chance to go for the interview (even to study) since i only received the letter yesterday and have not apply for my leave yet...

and i dont wanna put so much hope on tis either. ive saw my frens who's been trying so hard for tis post and end up frustrated eventually..
so i just do wat ive gotta do.

This post has been edited by grand_dutchess: Feb 12 2009, 12:11 PM

oh sorry, there's another thing, if u in contract 2 years that's mean u are not entitle for the benefit aite? something like discount for house 10% and gov. loan.. aite?

i guess so kill.. uve gotta be a permenant staff to enjoy the perks. Btw, your seniority also doesnt count coz u are a contract staff. im not so sure. maybe tenn have the answer.

True. They will select U based on Ur qualifications & previous working experience. However, they do allow U to list 3 choices of preferred ministry. Dun count of getting 'em though. I'm working in a ministry I didn't list. Every civil servant will have the opportunity to further Ur study, especially PTD. Not just masters, PhD as well. & it's full-time paid leave (half month la).



If U like what Ur doing now, why leave ? That will be the first question they ask in the interview. Why take the risk of working with ppl U dun like in the first place ?

MCS ? .... hmm... British ? Ur talking about Malaysia or UK ? Did U mean Malayan Civil Service ? Becoz it's 2009 already & we've gained independence from the British for 52 years this year.... & we've stopped calling PTDs MCS for quite sometime already...

I dun like politics as well, but recently I found out that it's a necessary evil. I've only recently registered as a voter & the last PRU was my first time voting.

This post has been edited by tenno: Feb 12 2009, 12:23 PM

nah dude, i mean office politics....

btw, the MCS thing that i said in last paragrarph is meant to be a joke, just ignore...

what about contract staff? benefit is eligible or not?... just curious....

eh, thanks ar bcoz being our kaunter pertanyaan...

Sure, no prob.

Well, for contract officers, U won't be eligible for govt loans. That's it actually. U'll still get the medical, bonuses, claims, etc. In some cases (I dunno about this one), U won't get 25 days leave, maybe U'll get like 15-20 days. Those T&C will be spelled out in Ur contract later la.

i just wonder why they take this new batch of ptd in contract basis first.

This post has been edited by grand_dutchess: Feb 12 2009, 03:29 PM

Tenno,

If you dont mind, can you share anything that you dislike about becoming a ptd? If you can...

(This is not a trap question. Who knows it might help us to make the final decision and understand the truth about ptd) Please.

Cut cost.



Things I dun like about being a PTD :
1. ........
2. ........
3. ..........
4. ..........
5. ..........
6. ..............
7. ................
8. .................
9. .......................
10. .............................




I can think of none.....

so, after the economy grow back, they will fired them all... easier this way...

Thanks Tenno.

I believe that you are trying to say that PTD is very exciting.

I'll be all out for the preparation.

how long does it take usually before you received notice on taking test and all that?

salam, Mr Tenno.

once again, i need ur help.

do you mind e-mail me a sample of good resume?

my e-mail address as per below

zamriautocare@yahoo.com

budi dan jasa tuan amat dihargai.

tqvm

I dun think mine's good enuff, & I've stopped writing resumes ever since I got into public service. Do a search in Jobstreet, I'm sure U can find some.

The one U mentioned, sometimes become bomba, polis etc is during the DPA or Diploma Pengurusan Awam, not during work. Rotation during work means U'll get to go to other govt depts or ministries, & do other things. PTD won't be doing the same thing throughout their career. However some ministries, like MOF, we find it a little difficult to let go of our officers, becoz of the nature of our work. I'm not gonna stay in HR forever, I'd like to do other things as well.

During DPA there will be modules that require U to undergo military, fire dept & police training. This year they've added another one : officers will undergo 2 weeks of hospital training. What do they do there ? I dunno. My friend working in Kota Bharu hospital said they didn't even make preparations for the training. Dunno whether it'll become a permanent fixture.

Hi tenno,
I am just wondering,can we use English in interview session? I hardly speak BM but i have no problem to understand BM. Just that, i went to private U, so many years didnt really talk in BM.

oh yeah me as well. i can't speak any good formal malay.I do understand it perfectly.

so can we use full english in the conversation or does that sound snobbish?

I wanna know too



This post has been edited by audra: Feb 16 2009, 10:47 AM

Well, I believe I've answered this kinda questions in previous posts. The SOP or the norm is to conduct in Malay, with some English in between. Even when I was interviewed by an Indian officer, he talked to me in BM. & during the course of Ur work also, it would be in BM. So, when U choose or decide to try Ur luck in the public sector, maybe it's time to improve on Ur BM, spoken & written. Other than that I couldn't comment much.