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 Gold Investment Corner V7, all about gold

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post Sep 10 2013, 04:41 PM

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1375/oz
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post Sep 10 2013, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 10 2013, 05:16 PM)
The price dropping again, on slower basis unlike previous months
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yup. and it's 1374/oz now

meanwhile, maybank is still 1386/oz

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post Sep 10 2013, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 10 2013, 05:38 PM)
as I said before, always slow when reducing the price  doh.gif
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yea, as usual la. im gonna wait for tmr's update. before i buy more.

btw, it's 1370/oz now
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post Sep 10 2013, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Sep 10 2013, 05:55 PM)
I know. But do you find that it is worth it? I mean do you think there are other cheaper ways? Thanks for the info though. So  you feel that Maybank is the best?
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maybank is not the best but is the least to open an account. u only need 1 gram to open whereas some banks need 5-10g.
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post Sep 10 2013, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 10 2013, 06:06 PM)
I don't know if there's other cheaper ways  hmm.gif 

I don't think Maybank is the best, but looking at this forum a lot people have Maybank GIA & bought their gold.

Actually I'm still new & learning about this gold thing  blush.gif
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indices are all gaining positively. no wonder gold drop la..
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post Sep 10 2013, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 10 2013, 06:18 PM)
yea.

also Russia’s Proposal on Syria to surrender its chemical weapons, So it means no attack / war  rclxms.gif
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It's just a proposal. Don't know yet
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post Sep 10 2013, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 10 2013, 09:29 PM)
Now already USD1365/oz  smile.gif
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Haha. Can't wait for maybank's update tmr. Getting ready to buy some grams
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post Sep 10 2013, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 10 2013, 10:05 PM)
if like this trend, tmrw could be around USD1345/oz  rclxms.gif
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Hahah. Anything can happen.
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post Sep 11 2013, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(jieson77 @ Sep 11 2013, 04:12 AM)
hi just wanna ask as i new in this GIA,so which is best? i mean physical gold or paper gold? sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Physical is u own the physical form of it. Like u buy gold necklace from poh kong and sell it when the price is high to earn ur profit. Same thing goes to bars/coins. Paper gold is like I pay $ and buy gold in the form of paper. Written in the paper is the amount of gold u own and u sell it at the price u like. If the company go bust, ur money is gone.

Yes, u have to buy and sell according to ur bank's buy/sell price

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post Sep 11 2013, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(elfness @ Sep 11 2013, 12:08 PM)
Hi all the sifus here.
why would ppl buy physical gold when paper gold is more easy to invest and has narrow spread??
If buy from Poh Kong at 167
can only sell back at discounted 20-25%.( assume price stagnant)
am i right?
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U'll risk the company go bust. Imagine if u have rm100k worth of paper gold with u and the next day u see, the company bankrupt. Ur rm100k is gone with the company. If u have the physical, u don't have to worry. Like u buy from poh kong and the next day poh kong bankrupt. U no need to worry coz u have ur gold with u.

Another reason ppl buy physical is to curb hyperinflation. Money is being print in every country and it cause inflation. Money might become just a piece of paper. By then, ppl will use gold/silver as money just like few hundred years ago. Google mike Maloney and see for urself.

I invested in GIA (paper gold) instead of a physical gold coz I can't afford the physical. And I'm not investing a lot of money in GIA. Plus, it's a bank... Chances of it going bust is slimmer. It depends on how u look at it.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 11 2013, 12:45 PM)
It would be wise to revisit the wisdom of Buffett and his thoughts on gold:

1. “Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head.”

2. “The problem with commodities is that you are betting on what someone else would pay for them in six months. The commodity itself isn’t going to do anything for you….it is an entirely different game to buy a lump of something and hope that somebody else pays you more for that lump two years from now than it is to buy something that you expect to produce income for you over time.”

3. “Gold is a way of going long on fear, and it has been a pretty good way of going long on fear from time to time. But you really have to hope people become more afraid in a year or two years than they are now. And if they become more afraid you make money, if they become less afraid you lose money, but the gold itself doesn’t produce anything."

4. “I will say this about gold. If you took all the gold in the world, it would roughly make a cube 67 feet on a side…Now for that same cube of gold, it would be worth at today’s market prices about $7 trillion – that’s probably about a third of the value of all the stocks in the United States…For $7 trillion…you could have all the farmland in the United States, you could have about seven Exxon Mobils (XOM) and you could have a trillion dollars of walking-around money…And if you offered me the choice of looking at some 67 foot cube of gold and looking at it all day, and you know me touching it and fondling it occasionally…Call me crazy, but I’ll take the farmland and the Exxon Mobils.”

5. “The major asset in this category is gold, currently a huge favorite of investors who fear almost all other assets, especially paper money (of whose value, as noted, they are right to be fearful). Gold, however, has two significant shortcomings, being neither of much use nor procreative. True, gold has some industrial and decorative utility, but the demand for these purposes is both limited and incapable of soaking up new production. Meanwhile, if you own one ounce of gold for an eternity, you will still own one ounce at its end.”

6. “What motivates most gold purchasers is their belief that the ranks of the fearful will grow. During the past decade that belief has proved correct. Beyond that, the rising price has on its own generated additional buying enthusiasm, attracting purchasers who see the rise as validating an investment thesis. As 'bandwagon' investors join any party, they create their own truth — for a while."

7. “I have no views as to where it will be, but the one thing I can tell you is it won’t do anything between now and then except look at you. Whereas, you know, Coca-Cola (KO) will be making money, and I think Wells Fargo (WFC) will be making a lot of money and there will be a lot — and it’s a lot — it’s a lot better to have a goose that keeps laying eggs than a goose that just sits there and eats insurance and storage and a few things like that."
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totally agree with u. but i take my friend's situation, she can only afford monthly rm200 for investment. she would have save the money in savings a/c and earn the interest. instead, she use the money and buy a gram of gold in GIA, although it's riskier than savings a/c, but if she can sell it at higher price, she would have earn higher profit than gaining interest in savings a/c. let's say she buys 1 gram of gold every month (like saving rm200/mth), and sell them at a profitable price (assuming after 10 mth), she would have 10 x rm200 (her initial capital) + profit = rm2xxx. now, that she have more money, she can enter the stock market with it.

the conclusion is, not everybody has the money to buy stocks. some might just be able to squeeze only rm100 a month. while saving for a big chunk of money for bigger games like stocks, GIA is one of the options.

just my 2 cents
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post Sep 11 2013, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(LawrenZza @ Sep 11 2013, 02:10 PM)
LOL that is provided that the price of gold increases in the 10th month. What if the price decreases?
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that's y i said riskier than savings a/c biggrin.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2013, 03:04 PM)
So do you add more gram to mbb GIA?

Today price already reduced to rm146/g from rm150
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yea, saw it but dunno yet. tongue.gif might wait and see whether it'll go down to 1200/oz like what u posted above. ahaha.. the price is quite stagnant today
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post Sep 11 2013, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2013, 03:18 PM)
Nowadays we cannot predict the price. Suddenly it would shot up because of some "war" issues. Suddenly it would dropped because "war" delayed & fed tapering  doh.gif 

The 1200/oz is just what UBS predicts, don't know can reach that level not  hmm.gif
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true... hmm.gif maybe i'll add some. keep some $ to add more if US tapering happens.
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post Sep 11 2013, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2013, 03:28 PM)
your money, your decision  smile.gif
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what about u? did u add any grams?
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post Sep 11 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2013, 04:31 PM)
nope. wait & see the situation  biggrin.gif
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it is very stagnant today. between 1365 - 1367 the whole day
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post Sep 12 2013, 02:58 PM

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1348/oz now
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QUOTE(ricstc @ Sep 13 2013, 05:26 AM)
I wish to sell my Canadian Maple Gold Leaf 1oz gold coin. Can anyone please direct me to who or which organisation in malaysia that I can sell it off at market price to please?

It looks like this in mint condition
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U sure u wanna sell now? Gold price is falling.
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post Sep 13 2013, 02:29 PM

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1315/oz now
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before this syria, now tapering... the price easily get affected by all these... but it's fun. smile.gif

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