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 Gold Investment Corner V7, all about gold

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icemanfx
post Jan 23 2014, 05:05 AM

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QUOTE(GoldChan @ Jan 20 2014, 11:22 AM)
accordingly to many PM adviser,  you should set aside 15 - 20% of your net worth in Precious Metal.
It's primarily focus such be asset diversification, insurance against sudden capital control, currency devaluation and hyper inflation and most importantly preservation of wealth.

Just like insurance, you buy them b4 accident, b4 sickness and death.

Secondarily, it may serve as  investment for some but like anything if it's brought at low price, it means some profit, vice-versa. Most of them hold them tight until the price is high enough to sell.

Thirdly, for some it's a trading opportunity to buy and sell physical gold.
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So many advantages and only 15 to 20%? rclxub.gif
icemanfx
post Feb 5 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 4 2014, 11:09 PM)
Well, have you ever wondered why gold price is going down despite countries inflating their currencies every where. If you stick 15-20% of your cash under bank safety deposit, you still lose because of inflation.

Of course, if you expect Gold to generate income or dividends for you, then you are putting your money in the wrong place. Gold is not an income generating tool. It is a speculative tool based on macroeconomics or a hedge against inflation. You have to actually be prepared to pay money to keep your gold(invest in safe or pay a monthly fee for storage)

If the economy is good and we have responsible governments, no one would be buying gold right now. The reason why people are buying gold is because of irresponsible government, potential bad economy and the fact that gold price is relatively low right now.
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How much is the current inflation rate? What is the expected inflation rate for next 2 to 3 years?

QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 4 2014, 11:11 PM)
What do you mean by take down something? Actually, what you are saying is that if there is a crash, gold price may drop. I do not think so because the people who are vested in Gold by then would probably be prepared for the crash.

If you do not buy your gold or silver soon, maybe it will be difficult to obtain your metals in the future because I think purchasing rate right now is pretty high.
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Gold and silver supply are running out? If purchasing rate right now is pretty high, why price is still lower than last year?

icemanfx
post Feb 7 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 6 2014, 05:44 PM)
I never scare gold price drop, I mostly concern is gold repeating its own history from 1980's to 2000.
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Unless there is a new industrial usage for gold, gold price is likely to remain suppressed.

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post Feb 8 2014, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 7 2014, 04:52 PM)
Every1 xpect RM heading to +/- 3.40/USD by end 2014
US QE xpected to finish by end 2014 too
When v reach Dec 2014, it will b a non event (biz as usual)
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If what you said is correct, isn't your investment/saving is better protected if parked in US$ or Euro?


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post Feb 8 2014, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 8 2014, 10:55 AM)
My personal view
U still need to practice diversification
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Unless one's portfolio is worth over us$1m, it is meaningless and not worth the hassle to have diversified portfolio.

icemanfx
post Feb 9 2014, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(GoldChan @ Feb 8 2014, 10:27 PM)
got one friend he said he already brought 200K of gold back in 2011.
another 100K of silver i think.
so do U think he should buy somemore.
he oso have stock property etc. + loan.
for him if net worth around 1 million, i think it's enough already.

he already finished his bullet.. Just don;t underestimate the 2011 bull ride, lot of investors already lost their bullet.... some even future bullet. some susah2 hold until today, they have missed out on real estates, some stocks and numismatic. or some $cash for travelling. 2 years ago travel should be cheaper than now.

so, how to ask them to buy somemore.? their face oledi red black oledi.  vmad.gif
that why I said if U already reach your gold/silver target then keep some cash! that what I meant. hope I clarify everybody.
now, cash out on spare property then buy gold/silver may be a good strategy.
however i 'm not a real estate expert do your own due dilligent.
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Demand in gold jewelry (i.e. India and China) has been fairly consistent for years, is unlikely to drive up the price and gold price likely to stay depressed until condition is ripe for the next speculation, which could be in 10 or 20 years time. It may make sense to cut losses and invest in something else.

QUOTE(lamode @ Feb 9 2014, 10:23 AM)
i like all or nothing spirit, and i admire anyone who does it, be it win or lose because i no dare to do it  rclxm9.gif
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There are risks in all investment and need to pay "school fee" before one have a handle on it. For small investment, it is more realistic to focus. Those inexperienced and diverse investors are likely to have negative or minute return.



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post Feb 10 2014, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 10 2014, 12:17 PM)
It is not a secret that China and their citizens are accumulating gold. What I am trying to demonstrate is, china is not buying gold for jewelery purposes.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 10 2014, 02:32 PM)
China's gold demand surges, tops 1,000 tonnes
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...ps-1000-tonnes/
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Even when they bought in quantity a few years back (include 1,400 ton in 2013) didn't stop the gold price slide.


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post Feb 14 2014, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(advgamer @ Feb 12 2014, 10:55 AM)
Why every country government holding ton of gold not silver not diamond? cool2.gif
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According to; http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01n8278

Indian housewives hold 11% of the World's gold. That is more than the reserves of USA, IMF, Switzerland and Germany put together.

Indian housewives are smarter than central bankers?


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post Feb 14 2014, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 14 2014, 02:02 PM)
Since you wrote this, gold has gone fro $130.92 to $137.90.

That's 5.34% in a matter of 11 days.

No one is ever sure about gold's move
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If the momentum is maintained, it could gain over 100% by year end. Buy, buy, buy!



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post Feb 14 2014, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 14 2014, 02:15 PM)
i'd recommend park ur fund into gold around 5-10% of ur total worth...the market is volatile and tension between nations is rising currently...what more with more n more country is in civil unrest...when at worst war happen example US on Ukraine and Russia...ppl would dump equities and hoard commodities....food,shelter(house) oil, heck even gold....

we'll see what happen on July to Septmeber 2014 of this year wether a new trend pattern is in the midst of being develop...the early signs is there as people behave with their money...
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If you are confident with your prediction, you should keep over 85% of investment in gold.

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post Feb 15 2014, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 15 2014, 09:24 PM)
I have done almost that. In fact I would have done that if I went to visit the shop last Friday. I am prepared to put 100% of my current networth in it. I do not see what other investment can be as obvious as this one.
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It is still not too late to visit the shop on next Monday.

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post Feb 15 2014, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 15 2014, 10:27 PM)
I am visiting this coming Monday in fact. But damn. the profits I could have made if I visited on Friday.
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post Feb 15 2014, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 15 2014, 10:27 PM)
I am visiting this coming Monday in fact. But damn. the profits I could have made if I visited on Friday.

But never mind. I expect much greater profits end of the year. Even 65% of my networth is probably much more then 100% of yours. I had 65% of that already in PM on Friday before the run.
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Only if you know how much is my networth.

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post Feb 16 2014, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(lamode @ Feb 15 2014, 11:14 PM)
can to tell whether above 1 mil or not?  whistling.gif
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post Feb 16 2014, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 15 2014, 11:17 PM)
gold has moved up so much already and you said no?? it was predicted to drop but instead it kept going up and you still in denial?
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Perhaps you can share with us why gold price will continue to rise?

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post Feb 16 2014, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(lamode @ Feb 16 2014, 12:09 PM)
u say it, i trust it  thumbup.gif
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Oh, sometimes, no answer is a better answer.

How much can a economic student worth?

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post Feb 17 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 16 2014, 02:56 PM)
HOW SURE are you that there will not be a global crisis?
Even your assumptions you made of USA and China are far off.

Yellen gonna taper?   biggrin.gif
With US real Unemployment at >20% tapering will welcome the next DEPeRSSion.
WHO wants to be remembered for that?

http://www.shadowstats.com/imgs/sgs-emp.gi...ad&t=1391782568

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If policy makers don't take John Williams seriously, his influence is limited to his followers.

QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 16 2014, 07:36 PM)
Based on martin Armstrong economic confidence model... Another correction is coming once Dow Jones index hit a min of 16500 index - 17800 before the start 3rd quarter of this year...of which after that period the Dow are gonna fly upwards again for the next 1 year before they suffer another more bigger crash...

So I'm holding gold based fund up until the small correction that happening on Dow later this year. After that I'll sold all my gold fund and ride the rally of the Dow until next year august...
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To invest based on someone who didn't have peers review and was jailed for fraud is more than bravery.

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post Feb 18 2014, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 18 2014, 08:46 AM)
Actually his influence does not matter.

If reality of unemployment is > than 20%, the people in the streets will feel that.
Does matter what the Feds SPIN or what he prints.
THAT ultimately will influence the public
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That is provided if the general public believe in John Williams more than the Fed.

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post Feb 18 2014, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 18 2014, 09:53 AM)
you don't get it.

Doesn't matter what numbers each publishes.

When Joe public can't find a stable job for 2 to 3 years, he will know the D is nigh
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In developed countries, there are always some people in long term unemployment and these people have the least influence in society. Whether economy going to recession or boom time won't be determined by unemployed, hence there are economically irrelevant (note not socially).

If one read proper newspaper, will find economy in the west is on recovering path and emerging economy is likely to be in trouble within the next 12 months.

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post Feb 21 2014, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 21 2014, 12:56 PM)
wait for March and april following month market suppose to be more turbulent and more volatile...gold will provide good support to this...but if it doesnt happen and market continue to be solid gold will decline a bit...
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