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lainux
post Jan 10 2014, 05:00 PM

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Just curious, why don't you guys using liner instead? I have been using liner for small ponds, so far so good. Can be done in a day. And I am about to do a bigger one later.

I just use the canvas for lori, the green one. Granted, it is only being used for less than 6 months, and w/o much direct sun light. Not sure how long lasting it will get.

But if you look at youtube, the kuailo all use liner rather than using concrete.

ps: I also do a lot of DIY myself, mostly I hire indons to help. They do the heavy work, i give them instructions. Hurt my back, so better let them do the heavy work. :-)

Also, why not use aquaponic as filter? it is almost maintenance free. If don't wanna grow vege, and replace it with plants.

This post has been edited by lainux: Jan 10 2014, 05:11 PM
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post Jan 11 2014, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 10 2014, 08:54 PM)
I did search for liner before I built my concrete pond. Only managed to find one vendor in 1 utama but it was not cheap. The lorry canvas not sure if it can take our sun and UV.

Moreover you got to use rocks to hold and hide away the liners at the top of the pond and all these cost even more.

Can show your liner pond?
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Forgot to take a good photo as I was rushing. It was a one day project at Malacca. It was quite small & indoor, like 3x10x1. Not for koi, but guppies! tongue.gif

I think when one use liner, you will probably wanna cover the liner to make it look better. So, some big rocks or wood will be nice. My next project, I intend to get those cheap rocks used for roadside gabion wall. So, once those above water are covered from UV, and those under water with algae, it should last pretty long. Nonetheless, concrete is for long long term.

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post Jan 21 2014, 10:42 AM

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This is my first liner pond. Size is 4'x3'x2'.



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post Jan 21 2014, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 20 2014, 10:30 PM)
Just add a 30ma RCD to the pump circuit.

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post Jan 21 2014, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jan 21 2014, 11:23 AM)
Also DIY?
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post Jan 21 2014, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jan 21 2014, 01:47 PM)
Take you how long to complete this pond?
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half a day.

It is also easier if you use bricks.

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post Jan 22 2014, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 22 2014, 12:00 AM)
From where you tapped or connect the circuit from? If you are tapping it from a power point, there are 3 wires from the point, ie. L N and E supplying it to your pump point. Instead of that pump point you get a RCD where the live and neutral go in it and out of it to the pump point. The E wire should be connect to the hosing of the RCD then to the pump point.

That is to say:

1. From main to
2. House power point to
3. RCD then to
4. pump point.

With this you got double protection when pump failed or there is a electricity leakage. The 30ma RCD should trip before the house DB RCD as it detected the fault first and also it is more sensitive to leakage. When the 30ma RCD fails to trip, the house DB RCD should trip. Check both RCDs regulary. I do that when I off the pump for maintenance. Instead of switching off the pump point, I press the test button of the RCD.
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Thank you. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

I googled for RCD, now i knew it is residual current device. rclxub.gif
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post Jan 23 2014, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 22 2014, 09:01 PM)
You are welcome.

Since you diy your pond, I assumed you also diy the wiring for the pump. No?. According to fengshui water and fire do not mix well. It mean danger. Water being your pond and electricity is the fire. Though our house wiring design is safe, getting another point of protection is necessary according to fengshui logic. Also in the kitchen, you have water and fire, you may want to have a smoke alarm. You can get a standalone smoke alarm power by a 9V battery. Just only RMxx. Likewise for water heater, get another localized RCD. The 30ma RCD can cost RM100 or more a piece. To me it is a must have, not a necessity.
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Yes, I DIY myself for the wiring as well, thus always feel insecure going into the pond to do something. LOL...

WOW.. RM100 for the RCD? Will a simple fuse work? When currest exceed certain amp, it will then break the fuse?

Don't water heater has some sort of RCD built in these days? I am now trying to do DIY solar water heater. Have done one successfully, but just being lazy to climb to the roof again. Waiting to hire someone to do the risky work for me.
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post Jan 23 2014, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jan 23 2014, 02:36 PM)
Haha. But also quit a heavy work ler.
Solar heater also can DIY?  notworthy.gif
Just installation of the heater huh?
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Very easy to do, but takes a while to troubleshoot. Took me a week to figure out some of the minor issues. My first trial, i sort of gave up. Second trial, took a week to figure out the problems.

http://www.boutel.my/2013/07/solar-water-heater.html

So far, it has been running for 6 months, doing well. Even OK when it was raining for like almost a week. Still got some warm water.
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post Jan 23 2014, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(wanchenghuat @ Jan 23 2014, 11:48 AM)
23.12.2014 update of my pond

managed to skim my first wall.. its not that easy to skim the wall, took me 20 minutes to get the hang of it and adjustments to the cement and water ratio formulation.. then it was smooth flowing..

don't think i can finish this up by CNY lol.. but i guess the walls can be completed by this weekend smile.gif

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Bro where do you live? I can lend a hand and learn somethings from you?

 

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