QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Sep 7 2013, 01:23 PM)
I only have one complain for it,the camera is too big,other than that everything is goodÂ

S4's camera also quite big right? A little hump on the back for a better camera or a flatter back for a lousy camera, I choose the former.
QUOTE(phantomash @ Sep 7 2013, 03:22 PM)
I'm not a camera pro, so I'm not going to pretend to be one. But basic logic tells you that the bigger the lens is the more light you can get into your sensor, hence better photos.
A quick Googling I found a few links that might help explain why bigger lens is better...
Does a bigger aperture create better photosDoes a bigger camera lens always produce a better picture?Are bigger lens in a camera a better thing then small lens?What are the advantages of a bigger lens?Erm... Actually... Sometimes bigger lens is for a bigger sensor. When the sensor is bigger, of course a bigger lens is needed to let light in. Aperture is another thing. Sensor size should be the main factor in controlling the "size" of a "camera" on a "phone".
Nokia Pureview 808 has a 1/1.2" sensor thus it's big like a monster

Lumia 1020 has a 1/1.5" or 2/3" sensor which is smaller so the hump is also smaller. Of course they slim down and redesigned other parts too. Best to ask nokia what they did

Xperia Z1 has a 1/2.3" sensor, which is the same size as the one used in QX10. The numbers may not sound like a huge difference but this 1/2.3" sensor is actually about a quarter of the size of the 1/1.2" sensor in 808.

So... The biggest controlling factor in the size of the camera on a phone is the sensor size. The lens size and thus the "hump" due to the camera depends on the sensor size.
iPhone/
One/S4 all using 1/3.2 or 1/3" sensor. Quite a lot smaller.
Other factors affecting include image stabilisation like the one in LG G2 and Lumia 1020. I'm referring to Optical Stabilisation, not software based stabilisation. Optical means there's a mechanism that compensates the sensor positioning with any movement or vibration due to our hands or body movement. S4/One/iPhone/Z1 all not equipped with this feature.
Not expert too. Just my understandings. Enjoy

EDIT: Seems like HTC One has OIS.

QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 7 2013, 07:09 PM)
Faster in other areas but still slower when loading odex compare to deodex.
The so-call faster mostly due to bionic/krait optimization. You can do that without customized ROM. I am on stock ROM, can get
25k 24k antutu score on 1.5ghz.
ps: sorry, 24k only.. err.. my point is, it's ok to use deodex ROM for customization, important to many people, but whenever u use it, bare in mind there is a tiny teeny bit of performance hit.
Did you update your Antutu score? Antutu is now on V4 with some new tests for "Multitask", "Dalvik" and some changes to the GPU test.
This post has been edited by IwanAGP: Sep 7 2013, 09:42 PM