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post Aug 31 2013, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Aug 31 2013, 08:46 AM)
fyi, multi screen function is NOT by samsung, it just copied this from 3rd party dev.  i have been using multi screen long before samsung CLAIMED to have "innovated" it

this is why i really dislike apple in the first place, they copied stuff from other ppl's hard work, doesn't give ANY credit to them, then made a big deal out of it by making itself look good because they "made" this awesome feature.  this is exactly what samsuck is doing right now!
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Really? Can I know which app/mods let you do multiscreen? I wanna try.
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post Sep 1 2013, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 1 2013, 07:16 PM)
if you charge your phone on daily basis, even stock kernel and rom should be good enough.

quad core technically consume more, so starting with NVidia Tegra 3 (first quad core CPU for mobile), kernel already implement auto_hotplug which allow kernel to decide to use only more core when needed.

qualcomm's S4 pro implement it slightly differently using mpdecision - a userland process that something similar. however, since it's not open source, many custom developers decided to removed that and implement the hotplug.

so, even in stock kernel and ROM, it's not that bad.

all stock ROM are using OnDemand CPU governor. in term of power saving this CPU governor is second only to Powersave and sometimes Conservative. most custom ROM using Interactive which may make the phone more responsible, but cannot match the power saving of OnDemand. (On side note, Interactive CPU Governor may not be best for Nexus 4 or any Jellybean android since Project Butter is more effective than CPU governor. it will automatically boost CPU freq on touch.)

there are other settings such as larger data buffering, low memory killer settings, io scheduler, etc that custom ROM may implement to conserve power, but in my testing, they are soooo minor. so custom ROM offer little in power saving nowadays.

custom kernel offers more nowadays. with custom kernel, you can do under-volting. typically allow your CPU to run at same speed (or higher) at lower voltage. other than that, you also can implement lower lowest brightness etc.

although i m still using Stock ROM (with some customization), i m using a custom kernel for power saving and lower heat. ohh... ya, custom kernel allow me to calibrate Nexus 4 screen too, which LG and Google really do not do justice for the IPS screen.
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Google thinks that Yellow tone is best for our eyes. Every Nexus phone they released all yellow. I think only Nexus 7 2013 and Nexus 10 survived that yellow tone. GNex, N4, N7 all yellow on stock biggrin.gif
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post Sep 2 2013, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(superjoe @ Sep 2 2013, 11:03 AM)
Scary mate. U use nexus 4 earpiece or 3rd party earpiece??
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His earpiece is the small speaker at the front of your Nexus 4 used for making calls. Not headset doh.gif
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post Sep 4 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(nsg86 @ Sep 4 2013, 08:43 PM)
Seems like LG Service center open during weekday only..According to what written at first post.. my power button seems getting loose already sad.gif How much to change that at LG Service center?
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QUOTE(Xirality @ Sep 4 2013, 08:44 PM)
Someone mention before. Forget how much already, RM50 or 80
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I thought power button should be free. It should be covered under warranty since it can be considered as their fault.

Under normal usage, a button should lasts erm... 10 millions presses? I believe you won't do 10 millions presses in 1 year or even 5 years time.
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QUOTE(yisien @ Sep 4 2013, 09:30 PM)
I believe many user have problems on their power button. Mine as well.  sad.gif
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QUOTE(cslai89 @ Sep 4 2013, 09:33 PM)
Nice phone but not so gd power button. T.T
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Sep 4 2013, 09:39 PM)
Damn!! Now my vol down button lose edi, cause i use it as my wake button.
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Try call and ask LG whether replacing them are free.

How much they want to charge anyway? One button cost... 0.05?? Their cost I mean.


That RM80 is battery xirality
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QUOTE(flowerbunkus @ Sep 4 2013, 10:29 PM)
do the have any other batteries. instead of 2100 i mean maybe a little bump up just like what samsung being do.
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You do know that your battery is built-in one right? Built-in batteries are designed to fit just nicely inside the phone housing. Unless a new technology managed to squeeze bigger capacity into the exact dimension else it is impossible to have bigger battery.

Another alternative is to mod your phone biggrin.gif

http://www.pocketables.com/2013/06/resourc...-batteries.html

QUOTE(Xirality @ Sep 4 2013, 10:34 PM)
I don't think they can do that. They have rules and regulation  laugh.gif
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Bukan pasal rules and regulation. Pasal they can't do it. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 5 2013, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Sep 5 2013, 01:40 PM)
I lazy to wait too. And, I don't have any spare phone to use while waiting...

Nexus 4's buttons are lousy. Many users have reported the similar problem.
So, it's not our fault.
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I thought LG used to replace on the spot if they have the parts. You should call before you go and you can probably get it on the spot.
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post Sep 5 2013, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Sep 5 2013, 05:06 PM)
Sound impressive...
My Display have some backlight leaking too. Not sure if they'll fix it on the spot or not XD...
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Try to convince them saying that the backlight leak is hurting your eyes biggrin.gif

Actually... that sort of leak is normal on LCD panels. But some managed it very well some very serious. Cheaps one normally more serious biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(@secret@ @ Sep 5 2013, 07:51 PM)
haih... I'm going to send it to SC in SG to fix just before warranty expires

I plan to upgrade to Nexus 5 though...
but leaked & potential model suggested it's being manufactured by LG again
not sure if it's a good news
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LG not good?

If the price is nice, for the price you get it for, that much lower than equivalent models from other manufacturers, you can probably replace the buttons 10 times with that extra money which I doubt you need. Just get it replaced before the warranty ends brows.gif Don't waste what you paid for biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Sep 6 2013, 01:11 PM)
I just made a mockup based on the dimensions given.

Dimension of screen is 66.2mm x 107.2mm
Dimension of body is 68.2mm x 132mm

The screen is placed directly in the middle.

user posted image

Look at that bezel.  notworthy.gif
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1mm at each side doh.gif

G2 has 2.65mm bezel with the housing. The display itself has 1mm bezel.

How to have a phone with a housing with 1mm bezel? doh.gif


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QUOTE(Wan @ Sep 7 2013, 09:07 AM)
Anybody have this problem?
11pm had 70%. Wifi off,  data on,  wake up in the morning only 50% left.
Was fine before.  Just noticed it last few weeks.
user posted image

user posted image
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For power manager service, you need to refer to Partial Wakelocks. Power Manager Service in kernel wakelock is caused by Partial wakelock biggrin.gif

Maybe you should get another app like the one recommended above to look at it. BBS is a little hard to understand biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Sep 7 2013, 01:23 PM)
I only have one complain for it,the camera is too big,other than that everything is good  rclxms.gif
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S4's camera also quite big right? A little hump on the back for a better camera or a flatter back for a lousy camera, I choose the former. blush.gif

QUOTE(phantomash @ Sep 7 2013, 03:22 PM)
I'm not a camera pro, so I'm not going to pretend to be one. But basic logic tells you that the bigger the lens is the more light you can get into your sensor, hence better photos.

A quick Googling I found a few links that might help explain why bigger lens is better...

Does a bigger aperture create better photos

Does a bigger camera lens always produce a better picture?

Are bigger lens in a camera a better thing then small lens?What are the advantages of a bigger lens?
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Erm... Actually... Sometimes bigger lens is for a bigger sensor. When the sensor is bigger, of course a bigger lens is needed to let light in. Aperture is another thing. Sensor size should be the main factor in controlling the "size" of a "camera" on a "phone".

Nokia Pureview 808 has a 1/1.2" sensor thus it's big like a monster biggrin.gif
Lumia 1020 has a 1/1.5" or 2/3" sensor which is smaller so the hump is also smaller. Of course they slim down and redesigned other parts too. Best to ask nokia what they did biggrin.gif
Xperia Z1 has a 1/2.3" sensor, which is the same size as the one used in QX10. The numbers may not sound like a huge difference but this 1/2.3" sensor is actually about a quarter of the size of the 1/1.2" sensor in 808.

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So... The biggest controlling factor in the size of the camera on a phone is the sensor size. The lens size and thus the "hump" due to the camera depends on the sensor size.

iPhone/One/S4 all using 1/3.2 or 1/3" sensor. Quite a lot smaller.

Other factors affecting include image stabilisation like the one in LG G2 and Lumia 1020. I'm referring to Optical Stabilisation, not software based stabilisation. Optical means there's a mechanism that compensates the sensor positioning with any movement or vibration due to our hands or body movement. S4/One/iPhone/Z1 all not equipped with this feature.

Not expert too. Just my understandings. Enjoy icon_rolleyes.gif

EDIT: Seems like HTC One has OIS. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 7 2013, 07:09 PM)
Faster in other areas but still slower when loading odex compare to deodex.

The so-call faster mostly due to bionic/krait optimization. You can do that without customized ROM. I am on stock ROM, can get 25k 24k antutu score on 1.5ghz.

ps: sorry, 24k only.. err.. my point is, it's ok to use deodex ROM for customization, important to many people, but whenever u use it, bare in mind there is a tiny teeny bit of performance hit.
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Did you update your Antutu score? Antutu is now on V4 with some new tests for "Multitask", "Dalvik" and some changes to the GPU test. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Sep 8 2013, 01:36 AM)
That's why I never like Samsung products,oversized and plastic design,but for the size,they really did a good job on galaxy s4,screen on s4 is amazing too,just the plastic design I dont like
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LG G2 camera gets highly rated by phonearena, beating the S4 brows.gif

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Camera-C...-HTC-One_id3405

Nexus 5 no use Nikon module, use the one in LG G2 also good enough rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Sep 8 2013, 12:42 PM)
drool.gif  drool.gif
Hopefully, Nexus 5 will have the same price as Nexus 4(original price/launching price).
So, it'll be highly affordable.  tongue.gif  smile.gif
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If it comes with International Warranty, it will be the best biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Sep 8 2013, 04:01 PM)
I don't know how to flash factory image via cmd,all the details in XDA is too complicated,I normally flash using nexus 4 root tookit
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It's really easy actually. Just install fastboot driver, download fastboot.exe from android sdk, plug in your Nexus 4 in fastboot mode, copy paste cowithgun's cmd command line by line. It's that easy biggrin.gif

But don't do anything wrong la else big problem biggrin.gif

QUOTE(skip2malou @ Sep 8 2013, 04:43 PM)
Just saw this article someone shared earlier on ... wou ... i would get these to replace Nexus 4's camera and probably stick with my Nexus 4 longer ! LOL

http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/04/sony-qx...0-lens-cameras/
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Wait... Erm... That QX10 costs one Nexus 4. That QX100 costs two Nexus 4. You sure the logic is right? biggrin.gif

But this kind of investment is sort of worth it in long term. Since you can still use your phone camera when you didn't bring this external camera. Also can sort of "add-on" to get better image when you did bring them. It's future proof since it's compatible with both Android and iOS. You can change N phones yet still keep this camera.

But it's kinda expensive. Only good for those with extra money in their pocket.
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QUOTE(Shengz @ Sep 9 2013, 11:57 AM)
For Win 7/8, try update the driver for /Portable Devices/Nexus 4 in Device Manager.
Use (Standard MTP Device) ---> MTP USB Device

Win XP, can't help, I also dying seeking for driver.
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Try this?

https://plus.google.com/1035839393203262171...sts/BQ5iYJEaaEH
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QUOTE(Shengz @ Sep 9 2013, 01:10 PM)
Tried. Not working either.

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EDIT: Gonna try toolkit as I got free time now. Will update later.
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Erm... This driver is for ADB, not MTP. You need to search for the way to install MTP, not ADB.

I guess you already have your ADB. Fastboot should work.
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Sep 9 2013, 04:37 PM)
Tried many many times already,failed also
If its that simple,I wouldn't have go through the whole night and find a solution
Booting into Recovery,fastboot,or reboot command works for me at nexus 4 root toolkit,the problem is the phone is charging,and PC got sound,just the PC never detect my device,sorry I not gay xD
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I thought you're just trying to do fastboot flash to flash factory image? doh.gif
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Sep 9 2013, 05:26 PM)
sad to say,all the method you guys said didn't work well,thanks you guys,I think I will just manually upload files to my Box account one by one
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Why don't you use wifi transfer?

I use FileExpert to host FTP server, use laptop to connect to the FTP server.

or software like Airdroid or WiFi File Transfer to access files on your phone through WiFi.

I never use usb cable to transfer files to my phone now. Always wifi. Connect to laptop just to recharge battery biggrin.gif
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post Sep 10 2013, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Sep 10 2013, 06:23 PM)
Seriously piss off today,nexus 4 root toolkit can detect through fastboot,but can't flash stock rom and wipe all data,I need to sent to warranty this Friday,what to do  cry.gif
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Why can't flash since it's detected through fastboot? hmm.gif Supposed it can be flashed if it's detected.

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