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TSRemy101
post Jul 29 2013, 12:00 PM, updated 13y ago

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is there such thing?
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:01 PM

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Got la...I think so

If the fish is 2 alam.... lke mudskipper....haram bro
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:01 PM

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short answer, no.
long answer, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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waterfish halal ? hmm.gif
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haram tau..
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 29 2013, 01:01 PM)
Got la...I think so

If the fish is 2 alam.... lke mudskipper....haram bro
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frogs and turtle haram?
why?
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 29 2013, 12:01 PM)
Got la...I think so

If the fish is 2 alam.... lke mudskipper....haram bro
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mudskipper tak haram
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QUOTE(Remy101 @ Jul 29 2013, 12:02 PM)
frogs and turtle haram?
why?
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frogs and turtle is haram wat...

pohon pencerahan daripada pakar Ilmu Islam here...
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:03 PM

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i think poisonous fish is haram. for obvious reason..
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:04 PM

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if haiwan 2 alam, they baca also haram?
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QUOTE(pulautikus @ Jul 29 2013, 12:03 PM)
mudskipper tak haram
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No meh..then why ketam is? (ketam as in Ketam mangrove - not Ketam bunga)
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:05 PM

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mackerel and garoupa.
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:05 PM

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ikan buntal haram kan?sebab poisonous.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 29 2013, 12:01 PM)
Got la...I think so

If the fish is 2 alam.... lke mudskipper....haram bro
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mana engkau belaja temakul harooom?


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post Jul 29 2013, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Remy101 @ Jul 29 2013, 12:00 PM)
is there such thing?
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got. ikan sudah reput got ulat2. haroooommm!

halal oso u no eat. ebven my cat no want to eat.
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:07 PM

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all fish is halal iinm
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 29 2013, 12:06 PM)
got. ikan sudah reput got ulat2. haroooommm!

halal oso u no eat. ebven my cat no want to eat.
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ikan if curi at pasar didnt pay is harooom oso
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 29 2013, 12:01 PM)
Got la...I think so

If the fish is 2 alam.... lke mudskipper....haram bro
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baca balik kitab, gi tanya ustaz. There's no such thing as "2 alam" rule in halal consumption.

And ts, poisonous fish is haraam.
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mermaid haram.......
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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Jul 29 2013, 12:07 PM)
ikan if curi at pasar didnt pay is harooom oso
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betul2

ikan curik oso haroooommmmm
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:08 PM

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The only non-halal fish is a stolen fish.
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 29 2013, 12:05 PM)
No meh..then why ketam is? (ketam as in Ketam mangrove - not Ketam bunga)
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Ketam paya memang pun haram.. but still got many muslim eat it.. whistling.gif
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mudskipper is not haram. it cant even live on earth. it is just that it can temporarily be outside the water. if it leave the water, sure die. so it is not consider 2 alam.
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:09 PM

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Mudskipper tak haram sebab dia spend most of it's time dalam 1 alam..which is in the water..some species of ketam is haram because they spend more time off water..IINM..correct me if i'm wrong..I'm no ustaz hehehe
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QUOTE(revious @ Jul 29 2013, 12:08 PM)
Ketam paya memang pun haram.. but still got many muslim eat it..  whistling.gif
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dun la mislead others

the worst kind of people is the one with half-knowledge type one.
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QUOTE(jep @ Jul 29 2013, 12:09 PM)
Mudskipper tak haram sebab dia spend most of it's time dalam 1 alam..which is in the water..some species of ketam is haram because they spend more time off water..IINM..correct me if i'm wrong..I'm no ustaz hehehe
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LOL.
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ikan curi is haram yo~
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:11 PM

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you see, dua alam spesis is haram

same like achik, achik is haram cause dua alam
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QUOTE(jep @ Jul 29 2013, 12:09 PM)
Mudskipper tak haram sebab dia spend most of it's time dalam 1 alam..which is in the water..some species of ketam is haram because they spend more time off water..IINM..correct me if i'm wrong..I'm no ustaz hehehe
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Ehh so yuor submissions is TLDR - as long its spends more time in water = halal. If spend more time land, harooommmm? rclxub.gif


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post Jul 29 2013, 12:13 PM

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i just found this

http://baca-blogspot.blogspot.com/2012/12/...-non-halal.html

ketam nipah is halal and batu is not
can verify this?

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 29 2013, 12:06 PM)
got. ikan sudah reput got ulat2. haroooommm!

halal oso u no eat. ebven my cat no want to eat.
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show the drillz of your cat. brows.gif
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QUOTE(metalslug @ Jul 29 2013, 12:02 PM)
haram tau..
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ini mesti amik kat majalah mastika ni.
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show the drillz of your cat.  brows.gif
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yeah. later i'll find it. have to return back the favor since you send me your pansu picture liao
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QUOTE(Remy101 @ Jul 29 2013, 12:13 PM)
i just found this

http://baca-blogspot.blogspot.com/2012/12/...-non-halal.html

ketam nipah is halal and batu is not
can verify this?
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hmmm
i wanna know as well...
but refer to facebook jakim say true.
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 29 2013, 12:10 PM)
mai tunjuk sikit mana dalam kitab koran habaq camtu
dun la mislead others

the worst kind of people is the one with half-knowledge type one.
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+1... ini bagui

POHON PENCERAHAN..because I got Muslim staff..and last time I asked them ..apa halal apa tidak they said 2 alam...need to be careful you..when buy them dinner
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QUOTE(Remy101 @ Jul 29 2013, 12:00 PM)
is there such thing?
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Only in shia got halal or non-halal fish. Fish got scale is halal & fish witout scale is haram.
Here is Msia as we are sunni (mazhab shafie), we consider all fish are halal.
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ikan hiasan haram
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 29 2013, 12:14 PM)
yeah. later i'll find it. have to return back the favor since you send me your pansu picture liao
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if fish, i think semua halal.. if shark? or whale. not so sure about that.

anyway found this..

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KETAM BATU BINATANG 2 ALAM?

HAIWAN DUA ALAM (AMFIBIA):

Tidak terdapat sebarag dalil yg jelas dan khusus mengatakan binatang 2 alam itu haram di makan. Persoalannya, bagaimana pula hukum ini boleh keluar apatah lagi ia merupakan qaul yg masyhur dalam mazhab syafi’I sepertimana dinukilkan oleh kitab2 an-Nawawi; Imam Rafi’iy dan al-Ghazali. Pendapat ini juga dipegang oleh mazhab Hambali.

Mereka yg
mengatakan binatang 2 alam ni haram di makan berdasarkan hadis berikut:

Dr Abdur Rahman ibn Utsman menerangkan, “Dihadapan Rasulullah saw seorang tabib memperagakan semacam ubat dan dia menyebutkan tentang hal katak yg dimasukkan ke dalam ubat itu. Rasulullah saw melarang kita membunuh katak itu.”[HR Ahmad, Abu Daud dan An-Nasa’I]

Hukum ke atas katak ini, kemudian diqiaskan kpd haiwan lain yg hidup sepertimana katak - (Ketam Batu adalah antaranya).

HIDUPAN LAUT:

Sabdanya lagi, “Airnya,(iaitu laut) menyucikan dan halal bangkainya.”

Hadis di atas merujuk kpd hidupan laut. Adapun binatang 2 alam ini tidak termasuk dalam keterangan di atas kerana mereka juga hidup di darat. Maka berdasarkan firman allah di bawah, mereka membuat kesimpulan bahawa 2 alam itu haram di makan.

“Diharamkan bagimu (memakan) bangkai,…..”[5:3]

Di samping itu terdapat juga beberapa hadis yg menjelaskan ayat di atas iaitu:

Rasulullah saw bersabda, “Dihalalkan utk kita 2 jenis bangkai dan dua jenis darah; ikan dan belalang, hati dan limpa.”

Ulama’ mengqiaskan ikan itu kpd segala jenis hidupan laut yg hanya tinggal di dalam laut/air. Oleh itu, binatang 2 alam tidak termasuk.

ASAL SETIAP SESUATU ADALAH HARUS DIMAKAN :

Bahawa asal setiap sesuatu ciptaan Allah adalah harus. Ia tidak diharamkan melainkan jika ada nash yang sahih lagi sharih (jelas/tegas) dari syari’ yang mengharamkannya. Jika di sana tidak ada nash yang sahih – seperti ada nash tetapi dengan hadis dha’if – atau nash berkenaan sahih tetapi tidak sharih dalam menunjukkan keharamannya, maka hal ini akan kekal atas sifat asalnya sebagai hal yang diharuskan.

Daripada Abi Darda’, Rasulullah saw bersabda, “Apa yang Allah halalkan di dalam KitabNya, maka ia adalah halal. Dan, apa yang Allah haramkan, maka ia adalah haram. Manakala apa yang didiamkan olehNya, maka ia adalah dimaafkan. Oleh itu, terimalah kemaafan dari Allah. Sesungguhnya Allah tidak akan lupa sedikitpun.” Kemudian Rasulullah s.a.w. membaca ayat: “Dan Tuhanmu tidak pelupa.”(Maryam: 64) (HR Al-Hakim, dan dia mensahihkannya dan dikeluarkan oleh al-Bazzar, dia berkata: Sanad yang baik).

Maka, berdasarkan dalil yg dipakai oleh mereka yg mengatakan binatang 2 alam itu haram, kita dapati tidak terdapat satupun yg khusus menunjukkan ke arah keharamannya. Dalil yg paling hampir ialah mengenai katak. Ttp berdasarkan kaedah yg telah diutarakan, kalau kita menerima hadis ini menunjukkan keharaman, keharaman itu hanyalah ditujukan kepada katak. Mengqiaskannya kpd semua yg hidup 2 alam itu tidak tepat. Sekiranya kita menerima pendapat haramnya binatang 2 alam, mengapa pula kita boleh memakan ketam/kerang yg pada biasanya dijual di pasar2 dalam keadaan hidup. Bukankah itu membutikan binatang ini mampu hidup di atas darat?

YANG JIJIK DAN KOTOR :

Islam juga ada menggariskan satu lagi kaedah dalam mengenal pasti halal atau haramnya sesuatu binatang itu, iaitu berdasarkan kpd firman Allah swt:

“Hai manusia! Makanlah dari apa-apa yang ada di bumi ini yang halal dan baik, dan jangan kamu mengikuti jejak syaitan karena sesungguhnya syaitan itu musuh yang terang-terangan bagi kamu.” (al-Baqarah: 168)

“Katakanlah! Aku tidak menemukan tentang sesuatu yang telah diwahyukan kepadaku soal makanan yang diharamkan untuk dimakan, melainkan bangkai, atau darah yang mengalir, atau daging babi; karena sesungguhnya dia itu kotor (rijs), atau binatang yang disembelih bukan karena Allah. Maka barangsiapa yang dalam keadaan terpaksa dengan tidak sengaja dan tidak melewati batas, maka sesungguhnya Tuhanmu Maha Pengampun dan Maha Belas-kasih.” (al-An’am: 145)

Dari ayat di atas, illat kpd keharaman bangkai, darah yg megalir, babi adalah kotor. Berdasarkan illat ini, kita boleh mengqiaskannya kpd apa2 binatang yg mempunyai illat yg sama dgnnya iaitu kotor. Sebagai cth, sekiranya kita melihat sesuatu binatang itu sememangnya kotor dari segi gaya hidup dan seumpamanya, maka ia menjadi haram. Walaupun begitu, kita perlu ingat, kadang2 uruf dari satu tempat ke satu yg lain itu berlainan. Mungkin pada masyarakat m’sia, binatang itu menjijikkan, ttp pada masyarakat di negara lain tidak pula.

KETAM DALAM KATEGORI AMFIBIA,REPTILIA ATA CRUSTASIA?

KETAM NIPAH:
Ketam nipah bukan daripada jenis reptilia dan amfibia, tetapi ia adalah dari jenis crustasia iaitu sama golongan dengan udang dan kerang. Keseluruhan edaran hidupnya adalah di dalam air dan mempunyai sistem pernafasan melalui insang dan bukan paru-paru. Ia bernafas menggunakan oksigen dalam air sebagai pelarut. Oleh itu dari segi hukum ketam nipah ialah binatang yang boleh dimakan.

KETAM BATU:
Ketam batu boleh hidup lama di darat adakah ia bukan crustasia?
Tidak timbul sama ada ketam batu ini crustasia atau amfibia, tetapi lebih kepada uruf dan illat kotor dan jijik berdasarkan hukum memakan katak.

KESIMPULANNYA:

Ketam batu adalah haram kerana :
1. Ketam batu hidup di darat dan diair (dua alam) -walaupun bukan dari kategori amfibia. Ketam batu boleh hidup di darat berbulan-bulan.
2. Ketam batu dikatakan beracun
3. Ketam batu tiada kaki berbentuk pendayung yang menunjukkannya boleh hidup lama dia air
4. Uruf masyarakat di negara kita mengatakan ketam batu adalah kotor & jijik.

*Ketam Nipah/Ketam Nyior/Bangkang/Ketam Lembut adalah halal dimakan

* Ketam bunga (Ketam Laut) adalah halal

* Ketam Kayu?

Islam menitikberatkan kebersihan. Tinggalkanlah sesuatu perkara yg dianggap pada dirinya jijik dan kotor.


from sahabat halal malaysia fb page.
https://www.facebook.com/SahabatHalalMalays...384616368285578
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post Jul 29 2013, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 29 2013, 01:14 PM)
+1... ini bagui

POHON PENCERAHAN..because I got Muslim staff..and last time I asked them ..apa halal apa tidak they said 2 alam...need to be careful you..when buy them dinner
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thats the thing, later accidentally belanja non-halal food susah..
all the time i tot ketam halal, cause saw at mamak stall
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 29 2013, 12:15 PM)
Only in shia got halal or non-halal fish. Fish got scale is halal & fish witout scale is haram.
Here is Msia as we are sunni (mazhab shafie), we consider all fish are halal.
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lol makan belot je la mcm tu
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QUOTE(spikyz @ Jul 29 2013, 12:16 PM)
if fish, i think semua halal.. if shark? or whale. not so sure about that.

anyway found this..
from sahabat halal malaysia fb page.
https://www.facebook.com/SahabatHalalMalays...384616368285578
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QUOTE(spikyz @ Jul 29 2013, 12:16 PM)
if fish, i think semua halal.. if shark? or whale. not so sure about that.

anyway found this..
from sahabat halal malaysia fb page.
https://www.facebook.com/SahabatHalalMalays...384616368285578
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TLDR sumary plz

This post has been edited by lucifah: Jul 29 2013, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(mrfuad87 @ Jul 29 2013, 12:18 PM)
lol makan belot je la mcm tu
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Unagi tu..halal kan? Belot tu tinggal kat air
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 29 2013, 12:22 PM)
TLDR sumary plz
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got summary down there brah. haha

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KESIMPULANNYA:

Ketam batu adalah haram kerana :
1. Ketam batu hidup di darat dan diair (dua alam) -walaupun bukan dari kategori amfibia. Ketam batu boleh hidup di darat berbulan-bulan.
2. Ketam batu dikatakan beracun
3. Ketam batu tiada kaki berbentuk pendayung yang menunjukkannya boleh hidup lama dia air
4. Uruf masyarakat di negara kita mengatakan ketam batu adalah kotor & jijik.

*Ketam Nipah/Ketam Nyior/Bangkang/Ketam Lembut adalah halal dimakan

* Ketam bunga (Ketam Laut) adalah halal

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Ikan curi haram,ikan beli dengan duit haram is haram,ikan masak with bahan2 haram is haram
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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Jul 29 2013, 12:03 PM)
i think poisonous fish is haram. for obvious reason..
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QUOTE(mazwan182 @ Jul 29 2013, 12:05 PM)
ikan buntal haram kan?sebab poisonous.
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benda yg memudaratkan kan badan haram

kalau darurat boleh makan, tapi tahu ke nak siang ikan buntal (fugu)? ada pundi racun woo
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QUOTE(spikyz @ Jul 29 2013, 12:23 PM)
got summary down there brah. haha
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even if ketam batu halal oso i dun wanna eat. it's so small. biggest only like 50 sen size. plust they are damn smelly. i like to catch them when i was young in the mud plain.
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QUOTE(Cattitude @ Jul 29 2013, 12:16 PM)
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QUOTE(hieroplant @ Jul 29 2013, 12:05 PM)
mackerel and garoupa.
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huh??? u lie one ar? These two haram?
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 29 2013, 12:29 PM)
yes. certified halal cat.

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Jul 29 2013, 12:11 PM)
you see, dua alam spesis is haram

same like achik, achik is haram cause dua alam
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 29 2013, 12:01 PM)
Got la...I think so

If the fish is 2 alam.... lke mudskipper....haram bro
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Mudskipper not haram

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dugong. manitee. haram halal?
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got.....when u cook the fish with wine
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 29 2013, 12:29 PM)
yes. certified halal cat.

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since we are in halal topic
is deer meat halal? blush.gif
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QUOTE(RoyMcAvoy @ Jul 29 2013, 12:07 PM)
baca balik kitab, gi tanya ustaz. There's no such thing as "2 alam" rule in halal consumption.

And ts, poisonous fish is haraam.
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maksud binatang laut/air ialah yang tidak hidup melainkan di dalam laut atau air, di mana jika dikeluarkan dari laut/air akan menjadilah hidupnya seumpama binatang darat yang disembelih (yakni hidup yang amat singkat). Adapun binatang yang boleh kekal hidup di laut/air dan juga di darat, maka ia dinamakan sebagai binatang/haiwan dua alam. Menurut mazhab Syafiie; semua binatang dua alam haram dimakan. Contohnya; katak, ular, buaya, kura-kura, penyu, belangkas dan sebagainya. Mazhab Maliki menghalalkannya.

Wallahu a'lam.

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QUOTE(nitromx @ Jul 29 2013, 01:34 PM)
since we are in halal topic
is deer meat halal?  blush.gif
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To answer the question, from Halal Malaysia
http://www.halal.gov.my/v3/index.php/ms/ga...kanan-a-minuman

Sumber Bahan Makanan Dan Minuman
Sumber utama makanan dan minuman manusia adalah dari haiwan, tumbuh-tumbuhan, bahan semulajadi, bahan kimia dan mikro-organisma yang mana ada di antaranya yang dihalalkan dan ada yang diharamkan.

Haiwan
Haiwan boleh dibahagikan kepada dua kumpulan iaitu;

Haiwan Darat
Semua haiwan darat halal dimakan kecuali;
*Haiwan yang tidak disembelih mengikut hukum syarak.
*Babi.
*Anjing.
*Haiwan yang mempunyai taring atau gading yang digunakan untuk membunuh iaitu haiwan-haiwan buas seperti harimau, beruang, gajah, badak sumbu, kucing dan seumpamanya.
*Burung yang mempunyai kuku pencakar, paruh tajam, makan menyambar (burung pemangsa) seperti burung helang, burung hantu dan seumpamanya.
*Haiwan-haiwan yang disyariatkan oleh Islam untuk dibunuh seperti tikus, kala jengking, burung gagak, lipan, ular dan seumpamanya.
*Haiwan yang dilarang oleh Islam membunuhnya seperti semut, lebah, burung belatuk, burung hud-hud dan labah-labah.
*Haiwan yang dipandang jijik (keji) oleh umum seperti kutu, lalat, ulat dan seumpamanya.
*Haiwan yang hidup di darat dan di air (dua alam) seperti katak, buaya, penyu, anjing laut dan seumpamanya.
*Semua jenis haiwan dan tumbuh-tumbuhan yang dihasilkan oleh bioteknologi DNA adalah halal kecuali yang berasal dari haiwan yang lahir dari salah satu keturunan dari babi atau anjing.

Haiwan Air
Haiwan air ialah haiwan yang boleh hidup secara hakikinya di dalam air sahaja. Ianya adalah halal dan boleh dimakan kecuali yang beracun, memabukkan dan membahayakan kesihatan manusia.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 29 2013, 12:01 PM)
Got la...I think so

If the fish is 2 alam.... lke mudskipper....haram bro
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mudskipper is NOT haram ler..
i read and read and re-read to confirm before d..
it is NOT haram...
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 29 2013, 12:08 PM)
+1

betul2

ikan curik oso haroooommmmm
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jul 29 2013, 01:41 PM)
mudskipper is NOT haram ler..
i read and read and re-read to confirm before d..
it is NOT haram...
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Mint ampon....I hought 2 Alam animals are haram..my brain think of Ikan mudskipper...but nampaknia..mudskipper not 2 alam, as it has insang to breathe.

Hence..tinggal ketam batu..haram or not? Anyways 2 alam itu can makan or not? So konfused now.
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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Jul 29 2013, 12:03 PM)
i think poisonous fish is haram. for obvious reason..
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 29 2013, 02:23 PM)
Mint ampon....I hought 2 Alam animals are haram..my brain think of Ikan mudskipper...but nampaknia..mudskipper not 2 alam, as it has insang to breathe.

Hence..tinggal ketam batu..haram or not? Anyways 2 alam itu can makan or not? So konfused now.
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sos : http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukum_pemakanan_Islam

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ix. Haiwan yang hidup di darat dan di air (dua alam) seperti katak, buaya, penyu, anjing laut,singa laut dan seumpamanya(amfibia).Ketam yang hidup dua alam seperti jenis Ketam Batu dan Ketam Hijau adalah haram dimakan(sila lihat penjelasan di rencana di bawah).


Ibn Qudamah rh. didalam al-Mughni mengatakan bahawa penyu boleh dimakan sekiranya disembelih. Katanya :
كل ما يعيش في البر من دواب البحر , لا يحل بغير ذكاة , كطير الماء , والسلحفاة , وكلب الماء , إلا ما لا دم فيه , كالسرطان , فإنه يباح بغير ذكاة .
“Semua yang hidup didarat dari kalangan binatang laut, tidak halal tanpa disembelih, sebagaimana burung laut, penyu, anjing laut, melainkan ia tidak berdarah seperti ketam dihalalkan tanpa sembelih”


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2.1.2 Haiwan Air
Haiwan air ialah haiwan yang boleh hidup secara hakikinya di dalam air sahaja. Ia adalah halal dan boleh dimakan kecuali yang beracun, memabukkan dan membahayakan kesihatan manusia.Ikan Belacak halal dimakan.


*belacak here is mudskipper...

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i think shark fin oso haram because of membazir.
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Hahahahahhahahahaa,

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dafuq...just eat la,where got fish not halal doh.gif
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Durian with slight fermentation
Plants grown from non-halal fertilizer

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For sea it's quite simple:
Haiwan air ialah haiwan yang boleh hidup secara hakikinya di dalam air sahaja. Ia adalah halal dan boleh dimakan kecuali yang beracun, memabukkan dan membahayakan kesihatan manusia.

Source:
http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukum_pemakanan_Islam

With regards to mudskipper or Ikan Belacak, basically it is okay to eat, but actually there are some difference in opinion between the mazhab.

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ikan yg dimasak dgn arak
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QUOTE(Lacersan @ Jul 29 2013, 02:46 PM)
Mohon penjelasan:

Durian with slight fermentation
Plants grown from non-halal fertilizer
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If the durian is still edible, and not dangerous or unhealthy, there shouldn't be a problem..
Plants using non-halal fertilizer can be eaten, as long as the non-halal fertilizer is used on the roots, not on the leaves and edible parts of the plants. If it is used on the leaves (or fruit), then it must be cleansed (samak) first.

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QUOTE(Lacersan @ Jul 29 2013, 02:46 PM)
Mohon penjelasan:

Durian with slight fermentation
Plants grown from non-halal fertilizer
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this is interesting.
i also wanna know, can we eat kobe beef?

iirc, the cow consume some sort of alcohol drink. (beer/wine)

the lembu is halal. buttttttt... can we eat it?
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QUOTE(ooorait @ Jul 29 2013, 03:05 PM)
this is interesting.
i also wanna know, can we eat kobe beef?

iirc, the cow consume some sort of alcohol drink. (beer/wine)

the lembu is halal. buttttttt... can we eat it?
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not properly sembelih consider non halal, u dunno meh
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QUOTE(Lacersan @ Jul 29 2013, 02:46 PM)
Mohon penjelasan:

Durian with slight fermentation
Plants grown from non-halal fertilizer
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tempoyak iz halal
plants oso halal. u dun eat fertilizer u eat plants
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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Jul 29 2013, 03:11 PM)
not properly sembelih consider non halal, u dunno meh
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how do u sembelih a fish?
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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Jul 29 2013, 03:49 PM)
how do u sembelih a fish?
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if catch from tank alive then directly throw into hot frying oil le?
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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Jul 29 2013, 04:49 PM)
how do u sembelih a fish?
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must baca first rite?
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QUOTE(slimey @ Jul 29 2013, 03:52 PM)
if catch from tank alive then directly throw into hot frying oil le?
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QUOTE(Remy101 @ Jul 29 2013, 03:52 PM)
must baca first rite?
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and after that? find the neck of the fish?
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Yang ini ketam Kayu..dia hidup atas darat saja,tapi xleh makan..memang apa agama pon xbleh makan...sebab dia makan kayu saje...klau sape2 dpt makan...dialah paling hebat dalam dunia...


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bagi makan babi

haraooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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QUOTE(zephyrwatt @ Jul 29 2013, 03:56 PM)
tis is funnay
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got case last time, ppl rear Ikan Patin with kandang khinzir on top. So patin eat the khinzir dropping. So haram.
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QUOTE(lukescamwalker @ Jul 29 2013, 04:09 PM)
mermaid. haram bagi lelaki
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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Jul 29 2013, 03:49 PM)
tempoyak iz halal
plants oso halal. u dun eat fertilizer u eat plants
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QUOTE(achilleus @ Jul 29 2013, 04:03 PM)
got case last time, ppl rear Ikan Patin with kandang khinzir on top. So patin eat the khinzir dropping. So haram.
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According to shadowkun, you're eating the fish, not the droppings.
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What about some species of Ikan Haruan (i think)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakehead_(fish)

"Not only can they breathe atmospheric air, but they can also survive on land for up to four days, provided they are wet, and are known to migrate up to 1/4 mile on wet land to other bodies of water by wriggling with their body and fins."
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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 29 2013, 12:36 PM)
Achik can live underwater? Like Kevin Costner in Waterworld?
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QUOTE(Lacersan @ Jul 29 2013, 05:46 PM)
According to shadowkun, you're eating the fish, not the droppings.
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true. fyi a lot of animals including cows and chicken and rabbit eat their own poop. if any of u have older relatives that used to have that traditional toilet over river then ask them and u know that when they are doing their business a lot of river fishes waiting to feed on the product. shit is normal. if we go by the rule of something is haram to be eaten based on what they eat then a lot of things haram ady.
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Ikan celup dalam bak kut teh = harrrooom.

Why food cooked with arak haram ? When cooked, there's no more alcohol left, mane boleh memabukkan. same when you use vinegar, vinegar got alcohol inside. Vinegar = cuka. HAHAAHAH you all just had food with arak.
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Ikan belacak
Haromm dimakan
Halal di"sapu"

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