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waklu
post Oct 3 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 3 2013, 10:14 AM)


No problem with RD at all, just ensure EP is not active whenever target is about to be destroyed.
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the fact is, if it is only RD, surely no problem. But once combo affix comes into play, RD + (insert your favorite elemental affix here), there is where single LS will not be sufficient to face tank. You will either need to:

reposition (DS, TR, Manual movement)
use serenity
use cc skill (LTK, Bell)
use high damage spirit skill (etc Bell)
drag trash mob to increase LS

not too mention if your EF keep fearing elites, you will most of the time stick with 1 elite at a time only, thus reducing your LS efficiency.
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post Oct 3 2013, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Oct 3 2013, 10:28 AM)
the fact is, if it is only RD, surely no problem. But once combo affix comes into play, RD + (insert your favorite elemental affix here), there is where single LS will not be sufficient to face tank. You will either need to:

reposition (DS, TR, Manual movement)
use serenity
use cc skill (LTK, Bell)
use high damage spirit skill (etc Bell)
drag trash mob to increase LS

not too mention if your EF keep fearing elites, you will most of the time stick with 1 elite at a time only, thus reducing your LS efficiency.
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Well, I've found out that it's not mandatory to use serenity or high burst dmg skill especially WoL to survive and certainly doesn't need double ls. Dashing Strike -Blinding Speed is more than capably sufficient to keep our monk out of trouble.

Eventhough EF does make the elites fear our nephalem icon_idea.gif, however they'll come back soon enough and join the battle again. Furthermore, the target doesn't run away when it has been feared by EF while under DS -BS since it is rooted however must be activated every second. So by playing properly, elite is still within striking distance of our fists attack.

Just for your info., sometimes I choose to make the elite be fearful because it's better to teleport (via DS -BS) out of the area that has been almost fully covered with elemental pain.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Oct 3 2013, 11:07 AM
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post Oct 3 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 3 2013, 10:36 AM)
Well, I've found out that it's not mandatory to use serenity or high burst dmg skill especially WoL to survive and certainly doesn't need double ls. Dashing Strike -Blinding Speed is more than capably sufficient to keep our monk out of trouble.

Eventhough EF does make the elites fear our nephalem  icon_idea.gif, however they'll come back soon enough and join the battle again. Furthermore, the target is not feared by the EF while under DS -BS since it is rooted however must activate every second.
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That bolded part is why your point of single LS is sufficient in mp10. Its not because you can survive solely with single LS tanking the elites, you are using skill to mitigate some of the damages.

And if you are using spirit spender like Bell, of course single LS would be sufficient. Provided you can sustain your spirit regen.

This post has been edited by waklu: Oct 3 2013, 10:55 AM
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post Oct 3 2013, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Oct 3 2013, 10:53 AM)
That bolded part is why your point of single LS is sufficient in mp10. Its not because you can survive solely with single LS tanking the elites, you are using skill to mitigate some of the damages.

And is you are using spirit spender like Bell, of course single LS would be sufficient. Provided you can sustain your spirit regen.
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Exactly, no DS -BS = instant KO.

Please reread my previous post as I've provided a more detailed explanation ...thks. I prefer to use EP now ...lol!

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post Oct 3 2013, 11:02 AM

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thanks for the run and loot guys! finally over 100k lolz
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post Oct 3 2013, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 3 2013, 11:02 AM)
thanks for the run and loot guys! finally over 100k lolz
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Welcome back rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 3 2013, 10:58 AM)
Exactly, no DS -BS = instant KO.

Please reread my previous post as I've provided a more detailed explanation ...thks. I prefer to use EP now ...lol!
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I like the following skill atm:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk...#33;!Y.bZac

quickening to charge spirit, palm 3 mobs, moe-backlash & firestorm to sustain hp while palm the mobs. Wall of Light to finish the job - full spirit again.
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post Oct 3 2013, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 3 2013, 10:58 AM)
Exactly, no DS -BS = instant KO.

Please reread my previous post as I've provided a more detailed explanation ...thks. I prefer to use EP now ...lol!
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interesting choice of skill and gear... usually EF with Palm has no synergy...
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post Oct 3 2013, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 3 2013, 11:02 AM)
thanks for the run and loot guys! finally over 100k lolz
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woot! our previous OP is coming back!
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post Oct 3 2013, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Oct 3 2013, 11:31 AM)
woot! our previous OP is coming back!
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not entirely la, just playing on/off since my sis recently very active on d3

atm i'm going between rome1 (cuz lol rome2 on launch was just shit)/rome2, sc2 and d3 lol.
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post Oct 3 2013, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 3 2013, 11:33 AM)
not entirely la, just playing on/off since my sis recently very active on d3

atm i'm going between rome1 (cuz lol rome2 on launch was just shit)/rome2, sc2 and d3 lol.
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u gota login more~ monk going to OP when barb got nerf in RoS!

(i said that every single time... blush.gif )
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post Oct 3 2013, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Oct 3 2013, 11:37 AM)
u gota login more~ monk going to OP when barb got nerf in RoS!

(i said that every single time...  blush.gif )
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i'll appear on bnet la (when im playing auction house 3 or sc2 lol) so can just hook me up for games if we both/all available lol
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post Oct 3 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Oct 3 2013, 11:29 AM)
interesting choice of skill and gear... usually EF with Palm has no synergy...
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...works however needs to activate Dashing Strike -Blinding Speed every second to root the target that has been feared by EF.
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post Oct 3 2013, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 3 2013, 11:42 AM)
...works however needs to activate Dashing Strike -Blinding Speed every second to root the target that has been feared by EF.
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what do you mean root? i am not aware of any rune in DS that can do that... except Flying Kick that has chance to stun only the target. even so, when the mob move away from group, the explosive palm has less effect on other mobs...

ps: all DS has 1 sec root... ok biggrin.gif so... if u can do that every second... hmm... interesting... nod.gif

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post Oct 3 2013, 11:54 AM

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Therefore, the fear factor that EF contributes is a controllable feature via DS -BS activation. Sometimes, it's preferable to let the target run away in order to let your monk teleports to it out of the area that has been fully covered with elemental dmg.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Oct 3 2013, 12:08 PM
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post Oct 3 2013, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 3 2013, 11:54 AM)
Kindly ignore, please.
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hehe sorry, i have been so ignorance about DS, so many told me to try... but... i m still with so "cow" and stick with cookie cutter sweat.gif


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post Oct 3 2013, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Oct 3 2013, 10:58 AM)
Exactly, no DS -BS = instant KO.

Please reread my previous post as I've provided a more detailed explanation ...thks. I prefer to use EP now ...lol!
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I use EP all the time with NDE passive. RD mob kaboom, i'm still standing biggrin.gif
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post Oct 3 2013, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Oct 3 2013, 12:05 PM)
I use EP all the time with NDE passive. RD mob kaboom, i'm still standing  biggrin.gif
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EP was one of the jaw dropping skill when Bliz first introduce their monk in blizcon 2009. it's like the Kill Bill 2's "The Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique" awesome...


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post Oct 3 2013, 12:10 PM

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nirvana+CS+pillar combo:
1. activate nirvana by targeting 2-3 elites;
2. quickly place 3 pillars at the surrounding to create a triangle shape;
3. spam CS to vacuum mobs into middle of triangle..

this setup looks so damn cool , i wonder is there any videos on this kinda setup drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(huoshenfeng124 @ Oct 3 2013, 01:10 PM)
nirvana+CS+pillar combo:
1. activate nirvana by targeting 2-3 elites;
2. quickly place 3 pillars at the surrounding to create a triangle shape;
3. spam CS to vacuum mobs into middle of triangle..

this setup looks so damn cool ,  i wonder is there any videos on this kinda setup  drool.gif  drool.gif
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I watched regular but i demand watch ur monk ply lol.... let me enjoy ur video... hehe

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