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post Aug 14 2013, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Lego_Jason @ Aug 14 2013, 11:49 AM)
That's what I do too but it's very troublesome to get them to have exactly the same degree of firmness, most of the time just can't get them to be exactly the same... sad.gif
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Can align one. Cause the LA are manufactured similiar.
But due to rotate the LA 'head' is always 180 degrees, sometimes it is too much. Therefore, have to adjust single teeth or 1-3 teeth of the tan-gear at the base of the LA.
Need to have dexterity with fingers, else everything pop-out or drop, then have to start align all over again.
But the important point is, both the 20T gear, must be parallel, instead of oppposite facing each another.
I not yet build 42009 ...
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post Aug 14 2013, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(hades4eve @ Aug 14 2013, 05:41 PM)
Haiz...  cry.gif  cry.gif

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Didn't kena tax also headbang ? hmm.gif

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post Aug 14 2013, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(Lego_Jason @ Aug 14 2013, 06:43 PM)
Very sien to undo Technic pins... lol! doh.gif

I also have not build my 42009, open 8043 during the Raya break and slowly build... Tonight if have time I think will complete. icon_rolleyes.gif
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ya, tip of finger pain. That's why I keep some tools around:
- philips screwdriver : easier to push axles/pins out, than using another axle. No damage, as long as don't slip.
- thin rubber grip : to pull out bushes, pins, some axles.
- thin-nose plier : if can't with rubber grip, then to pull some bushes/axle-with-stud. Some damage to the external layer, but no choice.
- lego brick remover tool : use to lever / dig out stuff.

8043 I have issue with changing the config (that red stick) from fwd/back movement to digging and vice-versa.
If on rechargeable battery, then 4-6 out of 10 times will stuck (can't engage).
If on full alkaline battery, maybe 1-2 out of 10 times.
Check few times, not sure which part is not align properly. If push with finger, no problem.
In the end, I follow MOC and mod it to use 3 controllers.
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Recent busy ... not much time to play. My 8110 still stuck without the tilt-table bed yet.
And not yet get a 9V adapter to cut-cost for battery (and lazy to recharge).

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post Aug 14 2013, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(scpt @ Aug 14 2013, 07:01 PM)
use the brick separator to push them out, or if you're lazy like me, use finger nail tongue.gif
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Nowadays I try not to use fingernail. Else, nail broken, chipped like get bitten or hammer sweat.gif

Some things the brick separator can't push, especially if the axle to push is longer than 1 stud, and is stuck tight with thin-beam + thin-bushes.

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post Aug 15 2013, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(tanghm @ Aug 14 2013, 08:05 PM)
I've been thinking to get those rubber finger thingy from Daiso to save my fingers abit doh.gif
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Try and let us know smile.gif

I haven't try, but I think it will slip out of the finger easily. Maybe can use it as "grip" or several layer when trying to push/align axles.

QUOTE(zemperor @ Aug 14 2013, 09:36 PM)
Thanks for all the guides and tips notworthy.gif
i though both LA will be same if i spin and lower/shorten it to lowest position...
hmm.gif can't wait for this weekends to test it... maybe i can't hold myself and test it by friday laugh.gif

BTW, is there a way/tool to check how many power left for the batteries?
after a few run at my MKII, i found that the motor seems turning more slower/not enough power to turn...
my first run was very smooth actually...
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Use test-meter. Get a cheap digital one <RM50. Can check the voltage and mA.
Need to check each individual battery, as well as the full 6x battery pack output.
I think minimum >7.6V to run decently. But for good power, at least 9-10 V

Also, depends on the load factor. 42009 is heavy. The crane is heavy as well. Even heavier load if you try to lift something as light as 200-500g. If it is under tremendous load, the motor will cut-off.
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post Aug 15 2013, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(hiroka88 @ Aug 15 2013, 01:58 AM)
after few hours finallyyyy done  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(scpt @ Aug 15 2013, 09:23 AM)
PF motors drain battery like we drink water doh.gif
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I think a full rechargeable pack (6xAA) can last about 2-3 hours of play time for me.
Alkalines, not sure. Maybe 3-3.5 hours.

The smaller 6x AAA for train-sets, will last shorter for Technic PF motors, about 2 hours for rechargeables.
But for train PF, I think it last slightly longer, about 2-3 hours.
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post Aug 16 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(zemperor @ Aug 15 2013, 07:58 PM)
yeah... the 42009 really heavy... even just the crane part...

thanks for all info about batteries...
i think my batteries are really not much power left if only last about 2-3 hours...
i did do some test run for my 8109 and 42009 with the same batteries... and with some heavy loads too laugh.gif

if i not mistaken, the test-meter should be able to find it in DIY shops... is the one with a meter and two cable with metal, touch the batteries + and -

is there any test-meter only for batteries or all purpose that can test other things as well...

BTW, did you guys got this test-meter? or simply change/recharge the batteries when the motor run slow...
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If you use non-rechargeables, the depleted batteries are still good enough for other devices like alarm clocks, remote controls (tv, aircond, etc.), and even LED-torchlights. But then, you will have a lot of these batteries, and you can MOC like this: rolleyes.gif
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That is why I opt for re-chargeables, but due to lower voltage, I need to put in 7-8x instead of 6x. Hence, my MOC on battery pack couple of months ago.
Now, I want to use 9V DC adapter, since some of the stuff don't run far, like the excavators.

test-meter can get anywhere, normally I goto Pasar Road, Pudu in KL. Branded one is like Fluke. Yes, those with two cables, normally black and red.

Test meter quite useful, can test many things. AC or DC voltage. from 0.xxx to 1000V, even for cheapo ones.
Can test Amp, Ohm resistance, simple broken cable test, etc. Can use for home electrical also (don't simply plug into the 240V AC if don't know what you want to test tongue.gif )

When motor run slow, I just recharge the whole 6-8x lots of batteries. Quite conclusive on low-batt most of the time.
Very rare I check it often. But sometimes useful to isolate out a single faulty/flat battery, as it can cause the entire battery pack problem.
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post Aug 16 2013, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(heng84 @ Aug 15 2013, 10:13 PM)
hmm clearer picture.. green thingy.. the shaft will bend when the boom is lift up =x, the gears will detached like the one on red, have to push the red gear back to position.. so that the boom can extend.. any idea what did I do wrong X_X
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I haven't build 42009, but looking at your pic, the red circle gear seems misplaced (or by other beams/axles in wrong holes/location ?)

Why I say so, generally, that tan-colour 12T gear should not have free-space at the back of it. Also, it should not slide on its axle. It will rotate properly in place, using the grey-colour 20T gear.

My suggestion, recheck the entire build around 5-10 studs/holes of the tan gear. I suspect some beams/axle at wrong place.
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post Aug 16 2013, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Lego_Jason @ Aug 16 2013, 11:37 AM)
For general usage around the house and for your toys don't need to get Fluke, the price will make you faint! haha! rclxub.gif

Lately I tried a very cheap brand "UNI-T", a digital multimeter cost me RM52. tongue.gif So far so good...

Yeah, don't go poking those probes into 240V AC if you don't know what you're doing! laugh.gif

However, battery voltage is only a general indicator of the battery's state of charge. Voltage cannot tell you the battery's "health status", ie. its ability to store the charge. For that the simple way is to get a smart charger and analyzer, I've been using this brand for many years and I am led to believe it is one of the best around...

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Maha PowerEx MH-C9000 Battery Charger and Analyzer

This is sold by Shashinki, a local online seller of photographic gears. Very established and reliable, DSLR kaki will know of them. nod.gif
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LOL ... I don't have Fluke either tongue.gif been dreaming of owning one, but over-kill. I'm using cheapo China-brand digital test-meter <RM50 only rolleyes.gif As long can give me some readings, not for commercial use, is ok already.

Nice, will check out the charger. Bulk-CS anyone ? tongue.gif

QUOTE(tanghm @ Aug 16 2013, 11:57 AM)
I dont have a 42009 but from the picture you shown and the online assembly guide I'm looking at right now, it looks like the beam is incorrectly installed.
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Check the part highlighted in red from Book 6 Step 53

The black axle is not supposed to be bend like that, in fact no axle should be bent at all.
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You did the homework for him thumbup.gif
As I suspected in my earlier reply to him.
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post Aug 16 2013, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(hades4eve @ Aug 16 2013, 12:29 PM)
Will GP 2700mAh better than this? I used before GP brand and its quite good for high powered drainage electrical stuff..
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I used GP 2500/2700 mAh before also. Yes, it is good and longer lasting after a full charge. The only disadvantage:
If you do not use the battery for 1 month, you need to do full charge of 6-8 hours (at least that long with my GP charger for 4x AA). By that time, no mood/time to play Lego already yawn.gif

That's why I'm into Sanyo Eneloop now, but max is about 2000-2200 mAh only for similiar AA battery. Good enough for me.
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QUOTE(heng84 @ Aug 16 2013, 02:48 PM)
Noted with thanks!! Love u guys to the max !This forum here many hawk eyes thank you so much , guess I shouldn't rush my work!! For the price of the crane is definitely worth it man! Heavy box and of course super huge after fixing them up, takes me 1 week+ to build too noob haha , the tower of orthanc only 2 days for me to siap..crane take longer cos I did many errors have to take apart n Pasang again haha
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Generally, Technic and Mindstorm are the most technical Lego sets, hence will take longer time. Even compared to Modular/Creator series.

Except maybe 10179 sweat.gif

QUOTE(Lego_Jason @ Aug 16 2013, 03:09 PM)
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Don't have to match charger brands with batteries. icon_rolleyes.gif
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You dived into the deep end if this is your first Technic set! lol! laugh.gif  thumbup.gif

You can't rush through a Technic build like how you do with regular bricks... Just remember, you NEVER have to apply excessive force when connecting the pins or pieces. If you find yourself doing that and forcing things to come together then something is wrong somewhere and you should stop and check. Also make it a habit to check your build every so often, turn the gears to check for free play etc.

And axle are always going to be straight! lol! laugh.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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This is one of the big question in my mind previously before buying Eneloop, since I have GP charger sweat.gif

Indeed he dived to the top 10 deepest in technicality.
Yes, everytime put an axle with gears, bushes, must test rotate the axle and it should spin quite freely without friction. Then have to adjust by 0.1-0.2mm but not too much.
One way is to count the empty holes from left-to-right and right-to-left to confirm the correct position.

Yes, axle are always straight. If curve/bend, they will use tube or flexible hose.
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QUOTE(altaf_hoho @ Aug 16 2013, 03:51 PM)
Hi everyone. I just went to LLM recently and fall in love again with Lego. I am planning to buy 1 Lego Technic as my 1st start. I am looking at the 9398 Crawler and The 42009 Crane. Can you guys suggest me which one is the worth buy?
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If you have past experience on Technic already, I suggest either 9398 or 8110 (older set) for big sets.
42009 is new and will be around for another 2 years for you to save money.

Else, can start with smaller/medium sets like 4200x series (42000, 42004, 42006, 42007, ...)
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