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post Jun 27 2014, 09:18 PM

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port diskson wor. beach already so jialat. sure die investment lar. and no proper planing on beach. sibeh jialat lar.

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post Jun 29 2014, 09:25 AM

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Me know a fren who bought unit at PD Waterfront or something those chalets, jialat he said
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post Jun 29 2014, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(DrPitchard @ Jul 25 2013, 11:57 AM)
My take on the project and the concept:

I stay in PD and feel that although there has been quite some development in recent years, such as the PD Waterfront project (with names like McDonald already in operation with Starbucks and Kenny Rogers coming soon), I still feel that it will be hard for these type of investment (GRR for hotels/resort).

Chances to flip is very hard as the market is very small, especially if you are looking at PD itself. And if the contract is not renewed after the first 3 years, what are you going to do?

Bear in mind, its 3+3+3, that means the 2nd 3 year contract renewal is subjected to the 1st 3 years operations. Will you be able to sell it after that? If no, then you would have to rent it out on your own. For a resort/hotel, that means you will be very busy as interested parties would most probably be short term guest (a few days only).

You would be lucky if you get a guest that wants to rent for more than 3 days (what's there in PD?!?!?)

While the returns for a short term/daily rental might be ok, it will also be very time consuming and energy sapping. Unless you have a few units, and also a maid to do the daily housekeeping once guest check out, I would prefer to avoid such investments.

There are many GRR schemes in Port Dickson (most of the resorts/hotels are sold based on this scheme) and a handful of them only are barely surviving, others are close to being dead.
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post Jun 29 2014, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(Maneki-neko @ Jun 29 2014, 04:23 PM)
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Wow, it's almost a year since I started the thread. Hope nobody got caught in the investment. Unless one is based there in PD with lots of time, as mentioned previously, stay far away from such investments.
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post Jul 3 2014, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Sikit2JadiBukit @ Jun 29 2014, 03:52 PM)
At least your friend know jialat.

My friend still think good deal.
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PD area cannot buy 1. Already oversupply unless you can make it like Avillion or thistle hotel.

Even the project can successfully completed, guarantee return got alot of T&C that we do not know which u need to read carefully.

If im your friend, i will cancel the deal, lose the downpayment and find a better project.
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post Jul 3 2014, 10:40 AM

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anything near beach sure die. due to islam malaysia law. no sexy bikini girl, all balut balut, no nice drinking place near beach. no pet/dog beach.. no nice activity or sport. without all sure jialat. some more lagi if ada hudud law lagi jialat.

invest in west peninsular malaysia near beach sure die kau kau 200%. all beach look low class and dirty. no nice hot girl scene. beach never preserve nicely.

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post Jul 5 2014, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Sikit2JadiBukit @ Jul 5 2014, 02:21 PM)
Already hinted him but he still very excited, what to do.

Don't want push too hard lah later he become angry then no more friend.
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Yeah, agree on that. Since he/she has already committed, no point still trying to bring up all the risk and cons of the project. Rather, it's always about moving forward. Afterall, whether a property investment is acceptable or not depends on individual preference.

If he/she is comfortable with it even though there is minimal capital appreciation or not much liquidity, then good for him/her.
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post Jul 5 2014, 11:08 PM

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Last time used to go to PD and work, to me PD have its potential, it has many sand beaches where people can picnic and etc... I still remember when I was young my paretns used to take me there.. Unfortunately, lack of govt incentive at a long period have made the beach dirty and you may see many projects are being abandoned there. Thou some reviving efforts have been made by the current MB, but it is still far from achieving the hottest tourism place in Malaysia like those days....

Maybe more initiative from the govt to make it a better place for tourism can make PD a nice and flourishing place to invest. Many things need to bulk up, the roads, transportation to get there, places to visit and see and etc...
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post Sep 22 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(DrPitchard @ Jul 5 2014, 09:18 PM)
Yeah, agree on that. Since he/she has already committed, no point still trying to bring up all the risk and cons of the project. Rather, it's always about moving forward. Afterall, whether a property investment is acceptable or not depends on individual preference.

If he/she is comfortable with it even though there is minimal capital appreciation or not much liquidity, then good for him/her.
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I had put in RM5k for them as booking fee.
Now, i see all comments... rclxub.gif
Help pls !
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post Sep 22 2014, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(poby2003 @ Sep 22 2014, 03:20 PM)
I had put in RM5k for them as booking fee.
Now, i see all comments... rclxub.gif
Help pls !
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Best to seek a full refund then. If got small admin fee, then just let them have it. This project is really very risky, from my personal evaluation. Better to be safe than sorry.
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post Sep 23 2014, 11:07 AM

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Hmm... hmm.gif

Only saw booths propping up recently on this project.

Not sure about the sales though...
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post Sep 24 2014, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(DrPitchard @ Sep 22 2014, 04:20 PM)
Best to seek a full refund then. If got small admin fee, then just let them have it. This project is really very risky, from my personal evaluation. Better to be safe than sorry.
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I had cancelled it. They wanted rm300 as their admin fee.
Many thanks to you and all.
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post Sep 24 2014, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(poby2003 @ Sep 24 2014, 09:25 PM)
I had cancelled it. They wanted rm300 as their admin fee.
Many thanks to you and all.
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If you want to take them on, you can take it to the housing tribunal. Under the law, they are not allowed to collect deposit, although almost every developer does that. You might as well give it a shoot, nothing to lose.
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post Sep 24 2014, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jul 3 2014, 10:40 AM)
anything near beach sure die. due to islam malaysia law. no sexy bikini girl, all balut balut, no nice drinking place near beach. no pet/dog beach.. no nice activity or sport. without all sure jialat. some more lagi if ada hudud law lagi jialat.

invest in west peninsular malaysia near beach sure die kau kau 200%. all beach look low class and dirty. no nice hot girl scene. beach never preserve nicely.
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From your summary.........looking at it....nice place for those 60 70 ages....
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post Sep 24 2014, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(tmdsad @ Sep 24 2014, 09:55 PM)
From your summary.........looking at it....nice place for those 60 70 ages....
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Any of you been to pd waterfront? I believe there haven fundamental changes. Centralized severage and waste disposal had been in forced and beaches condition improved substantially. Most pd hotels enjoy good occupancy now. Town centre now at pd waterfront with many standard eateries which not available previously.

I guess the tide had changed. But the developer background is important. So I would consider tsr who developed pd waterfront. The rest too risky.

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post Oct 12 2014, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(poby2003 @ Sep 24 2014, 09:25 PM)
I had cancelled it. They wanted rm300 as their admin fee.
Many thanks to you and all.
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Bro or sis, I'm also put 5k deposit already. But after read a lot comment on this project, start worry jor....can you share how to request refund? Where you place your deposit? I'm place on Aeon Kepong.

I place my booking on 19/9/14 but until this week only got banker contact me for loan application. Also, the sales representative or lawyer didn't contact me at all for S&P arrangement, seems like unnormal. According my understanding, this project is manage by Impiana Hotel, within the 3+3+3 years, rental will pay based on 7% purchased price, no matter rent it out or not. Means that we no need worry the rent issue. Also, now the developer is Palm Spring right? Not Tamco....please correct me and give me more advice....many thanks to all sifu...
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post Oct 12 2014, 11:03 AM

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If you drive along the roads at PD, you see many abandon projs. Pick the fundamentally strong developers is more important than the concept or other elements in this part of world.
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post Oct 12 2014, 11:07 AM

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Last 2 weeks i went to PD for a team building ( my first time in PD ), i was shocked to see many abandoned high rise residential/hotel... I would stay away for any investment in PD, there are nothing much in PD, the beach are so so
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post Nov 18 2014, 03:16 PM

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I saw the marketing booth of this project. And seems a lot of negative has been put into PD development. In my opinion, yes there were many abandoned projects in PD during the 97 crisis, of which, Tanco was one of it. Others like MBf, Talam and etc fallen property giants too...

Btw, Tanco has exited from PN17 status after restructuring, and with its 400 acres in PD freehold land, suites in Jln Duta, Kuantan, Australia and England, minus its debts, the Company is in a very attractive valuation! Well, that's the financial part of the Company....

The project, with water themepark and Impiana hotel operator (reputable one) and low entry price.... Why not!? Primaland in PD seems to survive, Bukit Gambang at no where in jungle also can survive... Why not this project? With the heavily assets portfolio. Probably this project is future of revival of the fallen Tanco...
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QUOTE(DrPitchard @ Jul 25 2013, 12:01 PM)
And more importantly, on the developer:

Splash is developed by TANCO HOLDINGS BERHAD. So far, for the past 3 quarters for Financial Year 2013, the company has been making a loss of RM10million!

To make things worse, this company was once a PN17 (financially distressed) company few years back.

http://www.thestar.com.my/story.aspx?sec=b...iness%2f8760719

http://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-ne...ater-theme-park

Please do your due diligence before investing in this project.

For me, it is not feasible at all since the concept is hard to sell and it is a product of a very problematic company.
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