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PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX CLUB V48, Kereta orang miskin & bergaji ciput
PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX CLUB V48, Kereta orang miskin & bergaji ciput
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Jul 22 2013, 09:28 PM
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Jul 22 2013, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jul 22 2013) For the money spent on BOT, it's like a hole that never fill up. car go in and out workshop like go toilet to pee...that's why I would prefer to have 1 NA car then another turbo car. NA has much less that can go wrong on a daily basis....If you want to drive a turbo car on daily basis best is to get those that comes with a turbo...but even that sometimes the factory turbo also give you black face sometimes... haha true la, although personally i've met people who had BOTs and rarely had issues with them. although said people are experienced kakis and *PROBABLY* already paid their school fees la. if anything, the parts they used are of top notch parts (obviously including engine modifications that i've mentioned) and its in the 10-20k range la so... yeah Yesterday I buttseck my own saga. At Aeon shopping mall. A girl was parking behind me keep inching closer to adjust her parking spot but accidentally kiss my butt ( my real butt, not my car butt then I got push forward a bit and kiss my saga butt) that time I was putting stuff into my boot. When she bump me I was shock and like WTF...look back see that girl just give me sorry handsign... blink.gif and reverse back a bit. oh and most importantly, girl pretty or not? pretty ok la. although thankfully her car didn't crush your lower half weih, later no lil bro liao can't counter buttsecks |
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Jul 22 2013, 09:34 PM
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Jul 23 2013, 01:31 PM
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Jul 23 2013, 01:32 PM
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Jul 23 2013, 01:34 PM
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Jul 23 2013, 01:51 PM
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Jul 23 2013, 01:55 PM
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Jul 23 2013, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jul 23 2013, 02:48 PM) BOT is not really that simple like plug and play. A lot of things need to take into account. Gearbox, clutch, brakes, fuel pumps... aaaannnnddd that's why im still on my full stock car Not trying to scare you away from your dream project just informing you what is the other things you need to look into. Peace |
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Jul 23 2013, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 23 2013, 02:52 PM) But then if is my car should be the front tire rite? may not be the case if the suspension's good (fiesta right? lol) as it'll try to force the tires more to the ground to maintain grip and prevent the rear from slipping.Also, kena smoked by a Toyota Corolla like nobody's business especially when you said s turns |
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Jul 23 2013, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 23 2013, 04:54 PM) Just to clarify, it happened at the first apex, not in the middle of the S-turn. really hard to say if you can't be sure on who's tires are actually squealing.Hmm....I only ever *almost* understeer my car, ie. squealing front tires. If it really was my rear tires squealing before the front tires, then this is a first for me Or maybe it was the Harrier hard braking to avoid buttsek me from my tracking experience, even first turning my tires ady scream lol. during braking, the front screamed a bit as i reached wheel locking threshold (in fact got locked for a very brief moment la, i find it easier to do late/threshold braking as opposed to other more skilled braking techniques) and the moment my car enters the corner my rears already screamed liek no tomorrow only to be planed thanks to the RearARB. else makan rumput liao. again, that's what you get from bringing everyday comfort tires into a track LOL and yea as you said, the boot could be causing further planting of your rear wheels to the ground, and as you corner at higher speed, the tires will scream if it it's grip thresholds are at its limit (or even beyond it, and that's when you'll slide lo lol) then there's also consideration of traction, not to be confused between one another hehe. |
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Jul 23 2013, 09:27 PM
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Jul 23 2013, 09:30 PM
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Jul 23 2013, 10:09 PM
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Jul 23 2013, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2013, 10:17 PM) 12,000 for a CVT box vs 4,000 for a 4AT box. fair enough.First, it is too huge of a gamble. Secondly, I could be held responsible for the words I posted if complication arise due to the usage of CVT Fluid other than Esso EZL 799. although i would like to mention that the same goes for engine oil anyways (how much it cost for engines these days? cheaper than the CVT box?) |
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Jul 23 2013, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2013, 10:34 PM) In a car, the transmission is always regarded as the most important part followed by the engine. i thought the engine would come first as without the engine a car is... not a car. you need power in the first place so that the transmission can even begin to apply the power to the wheels.Furthermore, there isn't many CVT specialist in Malaysia currently, so overhauling a CVT box is out of the equation when complication arise. looking at modern cars, all their engines cost more than the transmission, even my car, 4g15 engine is between 2-3k? while a 3speeder at is in the 1-1.5k, manual tranny a bit less. it's rather surprising if the cvt actually almost cost half of the saga flx itself |
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Jul 23 2013, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 23 2013, 10:42 PM) If bought from Proton, Campro engine assembly is the same price as the CVT gearbox, around RM12k not including labour. so in general it's more of a proton thing as the transmission is ahead of the engine right? (again, that is not the case with other makers, do correct me if i'm wrong though)but the difference is, Campro is familiar to many bawah pokok workshop....CVT, not so much. Summore CVT difficult to find halfcut. So in that sense, the CVT is more valuable than the engine. |
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Jul 24 2013, 12:56 AM
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Jul 24 2013, 01:09 AM
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Jul 24 2013, 03:40 PM
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