QUOTE(SKY233 @ Aug 12 2013, 08:43 AM)
Yup! Even better looking now! Looks faster and ganas! People sure give way! Drive neo..no one cares to give way wan.. because too slow SATRIA NEO CPS Part IV, ~Limited Edition Force~
SATRIA NEO CPS Part IV, ~Limited Edition Force~
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Aug 12 2013, 08:50 AM
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Aug 12 2013, 09:50 AM
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Currently driving Vios..
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Aug 12 2013, 10:13 AM
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So its acceptable FC at 7.0? Urs how much?
Cannot go for vios la.. my neo just came out ony.. jut reach 1000km...:-P My fren got 5.6L/100km. Me jelly. If u guys hav ny tips n trick will be very much appreciated. P/s : just change my air filter to works drop in. Hope can improve the fc somehow. |
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Aug 12 2013, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(jebatgila @ Aug 12 2013, 10:13 AM) So its acceptable FC at 7.0? Urs how much? Highway - yes..can get 5.xxL/100kmCannot go for vios la.. my neo just came out ony.. jut reach 1000km...:-P My fren got 5.6L/100km. Me jelly. If u guys hav ny tips n trick will be very much appreciated. P/s : just change my air filter to works drop in. Hope can improve the fc somehow. My mix 50-50 highway and city..about 7-8.x L/100km IT WORKS! kcng |
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Aug 12 2013, 10:30 AM
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Hohohoh... used to drive iswara 1.3 carb can get 70/80km per rm20 (sumtime feels like more). Now cannot tahan de...adoi.
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Aug 12 2013, 10:49 AM
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Aug 12 2013, 10:49 AM
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Aug 12 2013, 10:52 AM
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Aug 12 2013, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(jebatgila @ Aug 12 2013, 10:13 AM) So its acceptable FC at 7.0? Urs how much? Mine 7.8L/ 100kmCannot go for vios la.. my neo just came out ony.. jut reach 1000km...:-P My fren got 5.6L/100km. Me jelly. If u guys hav ny tips n trick will be very much appreciated. P/s : just change my air filter to works drop in. Hope can improve the fc somehow. I also using Works drop in air filter. (the sales person keep asking me to buy K&N, but I don't want.) Hahaha... |
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Aug 12 2013, 10:57 AM
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Aug 12 2013, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(GONNER @ Aug 12 2013, 10:57 AM) True also la. Hahaha. Ya lor.. used to drove my mum's honda city i-vtec, save fuel when u want them and power when u need them..Neo is a hardcore petrol drinker, just push the pedal down and enjoy the handling. *peace* Anyhow,still a proud owner of a satria neo. Likey the handling. Just wish there's a way to lower the FC,then it would be great ride coz idun reli go all time crazy pedal to metal. Juz sumtime when i need to rush. Plus satria neo is more hensem than vios..:-P |
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Aug 12 2013, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(Max @ Aug 4 2013, 02:22 PM) This one I suka2 changed the bulb type 3rd brake light to LED. I used to replace to the old burnt stock bulbs to those SMD/LED type of bulbs, 10 LED with LED driver tuck inside the housing. [attachmentid=3569278] [attachmentid=3569279] guess what, I got Engine Check Light light ups once brake apply and the ECL forever stay on until engine turn off... eventually replaced the whole third brake top mount module since I can't get stock bulbs. |
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Aug 12 2013, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(jebatgila @ Aug 12 2013, 12:19 PM) Ya lor.. used to drove my mum's honda city i-vtec, save fuel when u want them and power when u need them.. Yea, neo in handsome than old vios.Anyhow,still a proud owner of a satria neo. Likey the handling. Just wish there's a way to lower the FC,then it would be great ride coz idun reli go all time crazy pedal to metal. Juz sumtime when i need to rush. Plus satria neo is more hensem than vios..:-P But new vios is handsome and looks sporty too ehh... Hahaha... |
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Aug 12 2013, 12:57 PM
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Full tank for me of Ron95 @ 38~40L and I'm able to travel at least 400~430 km..good enough for me
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Aug 12 2013, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(dexmonata @ Aug 11 2013, 10:52 AM) Test drive doesnt meabn u have to buy..in fact.. i always test drive new car even though i didnt bother to buy...its more like comparison and technolgy wise between those new car... Stock neo cps nothing to shout...prformance is ok2 only... QUOTE(dexmonata @ Aug 11 2013, 11:28 AM) Please dont buy auto version..or else better you buy myvi...i m tired of heard people complaining how fuxking slow his neo with auto stick... QUOTE(madman20 @ Aug 12 2013, 08:15 AM) vios.. hmm sounds legit. my coursemate juz got one, RM10 ron95 for 80km city driving.. QUOTE(madman20 @ Aug 12 2013, 08:50 AM) Yup! Even better looking now! Looks faster and ganas! People sure give way! Drive neo..no one cares to give way wan.. because too slow sigh.... |
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Aug 12 2013, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Aug 12 2013, 12:49 PM) I used to replace to the old burnt stock bulbs to those SMD/LED type of bulbs, eh, i use LED on my neo also...guess what, I got Engine Check Light light ups once brake apply and the ECL forever stay on until engine turn off... eventually replaced the whole third brake top mount module since I can't get stock bulbs. no engine check light leh... whats your error code? |
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Aug 12 2013, 03:03 PM
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Aug 12 2013, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Aug 12 2013, 12:49 PM) I used to replace to the old burnt stock bulbs to those SMD/LED type of bulbs, I thought to use the pnp smd also, but think its not bright enough.guess what, I got Engine Check Light light ups once brake apply and the ECL forever stay on until engine turn off... eventually replaced the whole third brake top mount module since I can't get stock bulbs. The star led got at clearance sale so i think why not just shove that led in...and its super bright... |
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Aug 12 2013, 04:34 PM
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Aug 12 2013, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(simon3041 @ Aug 9 2013, 03:31 PM) Greeting all beloved satria owners~... i am a newbie and might be joining this club soon.. gonna ask for idea and experiences from all of u... thanks Got a Neo CPS Auto with BOT here so I will answer a few of your questions based on what I have experienced so far. Yeah, I know people will say Auto is no good and etc etc. I agree up to a level but please bear in mind, my Neo is a work in progress, which means it will be upgraded as I use it in the future.I am kinda interested with the look of satria neo and the two door version. so yeah, i went for deep research on the online reviews, reading thru neo car clubs, pro and cons.. I am not tall, so the comfort is a no problem for me, and the i love two doors too. (have project for scissor door even though i know the two door is really heavy and heavier than the sedan 4 door but i am likey to see the scissors in neo, i noticed the hydraulic might not tahan, but then sigh, i hope there's solution for tat...) I am uni student by the way, but capable for downpayment of 2nd hand neo cps and the loan monthly and some heavy mod... But then i am very concerned abt the performance of the neo cps... 1. After a few days of researching, i found out tat most of em claimed tat (M) cps neo got jerking problem. can the problem be solved? 2. is it the auto neo cps loss much power due to the torque converter? of course i am into 3 pedals, but yeah, juz asking if i found a cheap auto 2nd hand neo cps... sigh.. i might but hope i dont, go for an auto if i found a cheap one? sigh... then save those money for mod... 3. I have requested reviews from my frens who are driving neo cps. and most of em are telling me tat the car is much underpowered although after 4.5k rpm.. sigh.. being honest,I am a freak who like speed, (more acceleration than top speed), love tigh corners, and challenging some random dudes on the road... So actually my question is this neo cps engine is tat bad like they said? and the low- mid range power is okay rite? (i do noticed some of the cps engine like waja engage earlier.) (drove 4age silver top 20V - Love the kicks, ZC engine sohc in integra 89, love the speed although it's a heavy car, 4g15 carb, nice but worry abt maintainance hassel... and my favourite k3vet in myvi, lol nothin much to say, powerful, but then auto/tiptronic) sigh... I wanna something tat got potential when i dump in 5-10k of money to mod... P/s : I don't like fart can, but love to have the exhaust swapped for a bassy loud and sweet downpipe and exhaust, any idea the cps engine can give me tat desired sound? 4. with lightened crank pulley, adjustable cam pully, highcam, aerospeed plug cables, iridium plugs, 4-2-1, and complete downpipe ( i think cost me around 8k?) is it worth for this? or go for strengthen the engine plus BOT? and cps engine tahan mar for BOT? 5. yeah i am hunger for power in this satria neo outlook,i understand bot might be more risky as i think neo cps will be fragile and more hassel than swapping in 4g92 mivec and 4g93t? though 4g63T is illegal. I juz wan it to be fast in neo... but of course better if can retain the cps engine. 6. heard the handling is good in stock, but if looking forward for more, any idea? suspension wise... and the 16" rim will it be too heavy for the accelaration? Oh yar, this car will be my weekend car since i have a daily ride... I don't mind going workshop everyday as long as it's woth it.. though i used to skip all the classes and go to workshop and have my daily ride modded.. LOL... Thanks for y'all for reading it and your time.. Selamat hari raya to those who celeberating raya~ ^^ P/S : 2nd hand neo cps will be enough for me and i am okay with NA, not a must to go for FI... Juz asking for details for the BOT cps engine, if a lot hassel, i will not go for tat of course =) 1) Don't know about that, so I'll leave that to manual owners to answer. 2) Standard Auto is of course, underpowered compared to manual. I have been in my friends' Neo CPS manual. The manual version does accelerate a bit better. 3) I believe CPS engine is designed to be revved high. It will become much more alive after 4400rpm. Changing your exhaust will make your Neo sound nastier 4) I started with small upgrades such as those listed and then I decided to go BOT after much advise. I did it in KK. Total damage is around rm9k. I didn't change anything inside the engine including the piston because I specifically ask the mechanic to boost low. My boost is just at 0.4bar but that's enough for my usage. My aim is to have higher torque, not top speed because I travel a lot going up and down the Crocker range roads. The stock CPS is really useless going up the mountains, I tell you. Always got tapau'ed by a lot of bigger cars and 4WDs. After BOT, well the situation is reversed These are some of the upgrades done for the BOT: Turbo header Campro CPS 4x1 Stainless steel piping kit with hose and clamp Apexi delta fin intercooler HYBRID Turbo rhf4 ball bearing HKS SSQV 4 blowoff valve Turbosmart wastegate 38mm Original K&N air filter 3 inch Hayden USA trasnmisssion oil cooler Nozzle 550cc -injector change Works Fuel regulator stage 1 w/ oil meter Works Fuel Rail 10mm E-MANAGE system w/ install Velocity Intake CAMPRO HKS Fully Synthetic Racing Oil HKS oil filter Racing Sard Thermal Wrap with Cable tie Exhaust Change Steel Piping throttle adjustment Fuel rail adjustment Brided hose inlet turbo Fiiting intake copper Hose elbow 2"-2.5" OBD check at GREEDSPEED Oil cooler hose samco Sensor exhaust and Map change Proton engine check and clear code Gearbox flush and change oil 6 litre Downpipe wastegate The mechanic did indeed have some troubles with the e-manage but somehow he solved the problem. My 2nd time tuning (at another performance garage in KK, sent by the mechanic) has made the car much more powerful and smoother gear change plus better FC (before tuning: 300km full tank. After tuning: 350km+ full tank). 5) Change the engine if you think it's worth it. Some people want me to change the engine instead of doing BOT. This is just an experiment for me so, I just use the CPS engine until it dies then I'll change to something else. Last time I dyno, the car produces 176whp, so I think that's alright. The thing is, I have done more than 25,000km after BOT and it doesn't give me any major problem at all. This car has been to Kuching twice from Sabah and it's gone almost every week up and down the Crocker range when I go to KK from Tenom. I love it. You will be surprised but the engine is reliable and send to service when it's time to. I guess I can attribute it to the mechanic. If there's any problem, I will ask my mechanic first. 6) Invest in stabilizer bars. They are not that expensive and it's worth it. Got a few of them in front, at the back and inside the fender (that triangle thingy?) with 205/50/16 Yokohama tyres. Man, that car can take corners at high speed and without having any tail wiggling. Correct me if I'm wrong, smaller rims means they are lighter, so better acceleration. The main reason I don't go for 17" is because of the rough roads in Sabah here. I think Sarawak is much worse. That's my opinion. Appreciate any feedback from the sifus here. Selamat hari raya aidilfitri |
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