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omnimech
post Jul 25 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(johnlaw @ Jul 25 2013, 11:29 AM)
Hey everyone can blow water here ma. I also can say I own 5 units in Quayside Condominium. I can change my name to HondaCity too.. But it doesn't mean I own a Honda City. Maybe I'm driving a Viva and Honda City is my dream car le?
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Okay .. so ?

What exactly is your point ?

I shouldn't be regaling everyone with what he said ?

It's like you just typed a response for the sake of getting into the discussion..

But I have no idea what is the point of it all.

Are you saying he is right ? Or is he wrong ? rclxub.gif
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post Jul 25 2013, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(omnimech @ Jul 25 2013, 05:17 PM)
Okay .. so ?

What exactly is your point ?

I shouldn't be regaling everyone with what he said ?

It's like you just typed a response for the sake of getting into the discussion..

But I have no idea what is the point of it all.

Are you saying he is right ? Or is he wrong ?  rclxub.gif
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I'm on your side. LOL. I wanted to reply to him but I can't see his comments here. Don't know what's the problem.
omnimech
post Jul 25 2013, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(johnlaw @ Jul 25 2013, 05:29 PM)
I'm on your side. LOL. I wanted to reply to him but I can't see his comments here. Don't know what's the problem.
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hahaha. okay . was just confused.

That guy has a lot of comments la. all over F n F >_<

Edit : Seems like the troll deleted all his posts. LOL

This post has been edited by omnimech: Jul 25 2013, 05:31 PM
johnlaw
post Jul 25 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(omnimech @ Jul 25 2013, 05:30 PM)
hahaha. okay . was just confused.

That guy has a lot of comments la. all over F n F >_<
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Ya lo.. I wonder does he really own a Vios or it's just his dream car..
MeToo
post Jul 25 2013, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(omnimech @ Jul 25 2013, 05:30 PM)
hahaha. okay . was just confused.

That guy has a lot of comments la. all over F n F >_<

Edit : Seems like the troll deleted all his posts. LOL
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WHoa! No joke? He deleted all? shocking.gif

He must have spent hours doing that.... he was spamming nonsense everywhere...
omnimech
post Jul 25 2013, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 25 2013, 05:35 PM)
WHoa! No joke? He deleted all?  shocking.gif

He must have spent hours doing that.... he was spamming nonsense everywhere...
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All gone already ma. haha. totally not in the thread. not sure if he asked admin to kill his account or what. hahahal
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post Jul 25 2013, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 25 2013, 05:35 PM)
WHoa! No joke? He deleted all?  shocking.gif

He must have spent hours doing that.... he was spamming nonsense everywhere...
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That's his style ma. When bullshit also very extreme, when delete comments also very extreme.
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post Jul 25 2013, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(johnlaw @ Jul 25 2013, 05:40 PM)
That's his style ma. When bullshit also very extreme, when delete comments also very extreme.
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LOL ya!

I did a search... he had a total of 220 post... which he deleted ALL! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh well... his BS will be long remembered as close to Legendary in FnF
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post Jul 25 2013, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 25 2013, 05:44 PM)
LOL ya!

I did a search... he had a total of 220 post... which he deleted ALL!  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Oh well... his BS will be long remembered as close to Legendary in FnF
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Don't be too happy. I'm sure he'll open a new account. LOL. Anyway let's go back to the topic. rclxms.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Jul 25 2013, 01:29 AM)
Hope they do sell.lgt rear 50kg metal bar
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Those of you that kept attacking the 50kg difference is fake but you all can't even point what makes the difference. How come none of you ever take the initiative to check with MMC technical staff that has full access to Lancer GT & Lancer GL in depth to find out if so curious to prove it? Is it that you all already knew the 50kg difference and do not want anyone to spread this issue?

Lancer GT '07-12 kerb weight 1385kg
Lancer GL kerb weight 1335kg.

Taking other cars kerb weight to compare with differences:
Honda City 1.5S 1140kg vs City 1.5E 1160kg = 20kg difference
- no paddle shift / got paddle shift
- 15" rim / 16" rim
- exhaust pipe trim
- side mirror signal
- leather steering wheel
- both got split fold

Nissan Latio 1.6 low spec 1142kg vs high spec 1152kg = 10kg difference
- no split fold / got split fold
- no wood trim / got wood trim
- fabric / leather
- both using same tyre and 15" rim

Inspira 2.0E kerb weight '11 1335kg, current 1345kg vs 2.0 premium 1350kg = 35kg/ 25kg
- 16" rim / 17" rim
- fabric / leather
- less accessories / more accessories
- no bodykit / with bodykit

Difference between 2010 Forte 1.6EX 15" rim vs 1.6SX 17" rim kerb weight berapa? Also not much gap like others.

As you can see, the difference including bodykit ain't that much difference after all. How come only Lancer GT difference so big? There is the Lancer GLS, despite with big rim + full bodykit also no where close to 1385kg. You can't explain do you?

This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 26 2013, 11:11 PM
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post Jul 27 2013, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 26 2013, 11:08 PM)
Those of you that kept attacking the 50kg difference is fake but you all can't even point what makes the difference. How come none of you ever take the initiative to check with MMC technical staff that has full access to Lancer GT & Lancer GL in depth to find out if so curious to prove it? Is it that you all already knew the 50kg difference and do not want anyone to spread this issue?

Lancer GT '07-12 kerb weight 1385kg
Lancer GL kerb weight 1335kg.

Taking other cars kerb weight to compare with differences:
Honda City 1.5S 1140kg vs City 1.5E 1160kg = 20kg difference
- no paddle shift / got paddle shift
- 15" rim / 16" rim
- exhaust pipe trim
- side mirror signal
- leather steering wheel
- both got split fold

Nissan Latio 1.6 low spec 1142kg vs high spec 1152kg = 10kg difference
- no split fold / got split fold
- no wood trim / got wood trim
- fabric / leather
- both using same tyre and 15" rim

Inspira 2.0E kerb weight '11 1335kg, current 1345kg vs 2.0 premium 1350kg = 35kg/ 25kg
- 16" rim / 17" rim
- fabric / leather
- less accessories / more accessories
- no bodykit / with bodykit

Difference between 2010 Forte 1.6EX 15" rim vs 1.6SX 17" rim kerb weight berapa? Also not much gap like others.

As you can see, the difference including bodykit ain't that much difference after all. How come only Lancer GT difference so big? There is the Lancer GLS, despite with big rim + full bodykit also no where close to 1385kg. You can't explain do you?
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U did explain already about the 50kg lgt rear metal bar, so why do we need to explain else? Are u trying to.tell.me that 50kg rear metal.bar of lgt does not exist?
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post Jul 27 2013, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 26 2013, 11:08 PM)
Those of you that kept attacking the 50kg difference is fake but you all can't even point what makes the difference. How come none of you ever take the initiative to check with MMC technical staff that has full access to Lancer GT & Lancer GL in depth to find out if so curious to prove it? Is it that you all already knew the 50kg difference and do not want anyone to spread this issue?

Lancer GT '07-12 kerb weight 1385kg
Lancer GL kerb weight 1335kg.

Taking other cars kerb weight to compare with differences:
Honda City 1.5S 1140kg vs City 1.5E 1160kg = 20kg difference
- no paddle shift / got paddle shift
- 15" rim / 16" rim
- exhaust pipe trim
- side mirror signal
- leather steering wheel
- both got split fold

Nissan Latio 1.6 low spec 1142kg vs high spec 1152kg = 10kg difference
- no split fold / got split fold
- no wood trim / got wood trim
- fabric / leather
- both using same tyre and 15" rim

Inspira 2.0E kerb weight '11 1335kg, current 1345kg vs 2.0 premium 1350kg = 35kg/ 25kg
- 16" rim / 17" rim
- fabric / leather
- less accessories / more accessories
- no bodykit / with bodykit

Difference between 2010 Forte 1.6EX 15" rim vs 1.6SX 17" rim kerb weight berapa? Also not much gap like others.

As you can see, the difference including bodykit ain't that much difference after all. How come only Lancer GT difference so big? There is the Lancer GLS, despite with big rim + full bodykit also no where close to 1385kg. You can't explain do you?
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We did ...
Seriously we did take initiative to check the difference..
We compare everything but in the end u told us the service manual cannot be trust la.. The website wrong info la..

We even weight the rim. 9.8kg stock inspira vs 12kg lancer GT. 2.2kg diff x4 = 8.8kg diff..
we compare inspira from website 1350kg vs 1360kg lancer gt.. 10kg diff.. But only found out website not correct.

But now u blame us no take initiative go figure out the diff. We even have the part number check same.

How the hell we know the only one correct is from Thailand Brochure?? Thats why we are seeking u to give us the part number for the 50kg metal bar.

This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Jul 27 2013, 03:22 AM
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post Jul 27 2013, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 27 2013, 03:18 AM)
We did ...
Seriously we did take initiative to check the difference..
We compare everything but in the end u told us the service manual cannot be trust la.. The website wrong info la..

We even weight the rim. 9.8kg stock inspira vs 12kg lancer GT. 2.2kg diff x4 = 8.8kg diff..
we compare inspira from website 1350kg vs 1360kg lancer gt.. 10kg diff.. But only found out website not correct.

But now u blame us no take initiative go figure out the diff. We even have the part number check same.

How the hell we know the only one correct is from Thailand Brochure?? Thats why we are seeking u to give us the part number for the 50kg metal bar.
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i really doubt he knows WHAT Is 50KG...
how heavy is it and the weight of those thing that he mentioned
like you said earlier we should buy 1 GT and 1 inspira and get it to weight
looser pay for both rclxms.gif
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post Jul 28 2013, 03:48 PM

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I would rather weigh the vios on a scale to show its lightweight and durability.
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post Jul 29 2013, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 27 2013, 03:18 AM)
We did ...
Seriously we did take initiative to check the difference..
We compare everything but in the end u told us the service manual cannot be trust la.. The website wrong info la..

We even weight the rim. 9.8kg stock inspira vs 12kg lancer GT. 2.2kg diff x4 = 8.8kg diff..
we compare inspira from website 1350kg vs 1360kg lancer gt.. 10kg diff.. But only found out website not correct.

But now u blame us no take initiative go figure out the diff. We even have the part number check same.

How the hell we know the only one correct is from Thailand Brochure?? Thats why we are seeking u to give us the part number for the 50kg metal bar.
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Service manual mostly would take the most common spec and its purpose is to provide you enough information to get your car service. Anything else out of it, depends whether carmaker willing to give further details.

Your comparison is based on the newer detuned Lancer GT 2013 (probably nothing more than GLS) rather than the original Lancer GT. Mind you, the Inspira premium comes with added bodykit + larger rim at 1350kg is still 35kg lighter than Lancer GT 2007-2012. Is this good enough to spot the difference?

You can check with MMC technical department on the original Lancer GT '07-'12 with kerb weight 1385kg for full details. No point you keep making noise here.
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post Jul 29 2013, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 29 2013, 11:37 PM)
Service manual mostly would take the most common spec and its purpose is to provide you enough information to get your car service. Anything else out of it, depends whether carmaker willing to give further details.

Your comparison is based on the newer detuned Lancer GT 2013 (probably nothing more than GLS) rather than the original Lancer GT. Mind you, the Inspira premium comes with added bodykit + larger rim at 1350kg is still 35kg lighter than Lancer GT 2007-2012. Is this good enough to spot the difference?

You can check with MMC technical department on the original Lancer GT '07-'12 with kerb weight 1385kg for full details. No point you keep making noise here.
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Erm . you ask why no WE make initiative to look at the difference ma ...

I am telling you lo .. what ever WE look at .. you says wrong ma .. mai as well ask YOU to tell us lo ..

I already tell you i did a fren's car .. 2011 Lancer GT . NON INSPIRA .. is having the same MAP as an Inspira .. but ur "Source" is only saying 2013 Lancer GT is being detune ...

I actually SEEN the ECU mapping (in code) .. personally and you says me wrong wor ...
I cant even trust my own EYES ... so where else can we check ?? .. YOU lor ...


By the way .. i am talking about FACTORY service manual ... NOT USER Service manual ..

it is actually meant for MMC technician ... not consumer

This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Jul 29 2013, 11:53 PM
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post Jul 30 2013, 12:01 AM

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Where da fck is my 50kg metal bar?

TWIST TWIST TURN TURN till NOW osso dun hap answer

BODOH!!!
WilliamHoo
post Jul 30 2013, 12:03 AM

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u yourself said it was the Metal Bar

now twist summore

Where izzit??!!

Wat part number?

Dun have?


PLEASE DIAM 7 TIT

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