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mikehuan
post Jul 22 2013, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 19 2013, 11:50 PM)
I treat it as practice on how to handle angry people in reality. You stick to facts and rationality, they will be defenseless and could only fill in the blanks with foul language or try to post more replies on 1 single comment to show that every1 disagree with you. Just relax and stay ethical. Such practice could improve your debate skill.
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this is a practice on how you bullshit angry people in reality. you stick to non conformable "facts" that can only proven by yourself and ignore facts or arguments given by the other party. if you're a salesman i would have walked out after 10 minutes of hearing your nonsense. do everyone here a favor, and yourself and provide some real solid proof that 50kg metal bar exists.

dont ask me to find my own way to talk to the relevant people or go japan and source for it. the world is smaller now, we can source without even leaving our houses. if its just a metal bar it should be readily available, given lancer GT?GL is a very common car


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post Jul 22 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(yegaz @ Jul 22 2013, 02:54 PM)
Toyota Vios has the best resale value on the market here because its price doesn't decrease instead it increases every year. Here's a fact you see every day.
-People driving Vios= 4 Leng Lui inside
-People driving GTR= Only one (pffffttt better be forever alone)
-GTR 2008 price now = RM36XXXX
-Toyota Vios price now = STILL THE SAME because it NEVER DROPPED in fact it Increases and new models increased by 10% for every resale from seller.
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post Jul 22 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 22 2013, 12:29 AM)
fck u for bullsh!ting again la, what conversion kit? the thing i selling not even appear on lancer gt in malaysia. so how???

since u said everyone knows about 07 to 12 gt got 50kg more in curb weight, so me the proof please

else please get the fck out of LYN and go back to your AW dog cave  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Bunch of sales related people still refused to surrender? Based on what you are selling, ofcourse, you sell only accessories. The others, something else. Anyway, whatever you bunch selling, they are related to Inspira sales. More people buy Inspira means higher chance they will buy things from you.

You should know, if you are into sales line, you should not offend others especially getting into personal fight which is bad for your business. Since you so doubtful on the 50kg difference, feel free to clarify with MMC technical department for full details. Remember to specify Lancer '07 to '12. Not the current detuned variant.

Whatever thing is, the Lancer has been around since '07. It could be phased out anytime. You may stick to your Inspira and hope people would still pay RM90k for phased out car. The Forte that is further development out of the Lancer frame is also under replacement left only with remaining stock to clear off to make way for new Rio 1.6L sedan. You still want to argue about Lancer & Inspira? Wake up.
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post Jul 22 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jul 22 2013, 04:28 PM)
this is a practice on how you bullshit angry people in reality. you stick to non conformable "facts" that can only proven by yourself and ignore facts or arguments given by the other party. if you're a salesman i would have walked out after 10 minutes of hearing your nonsense. do everyone here a favor, and yourself and provide some real solid proof that 50kg metal bar exists.

dont ask me to find my own way to talk to the relevant people or go japan and source for it. the world is smaller now, we can source without even leaving our houses. if its just a metal bar it should be readily available, given lancer GT?GL is a very common car
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If that photo in your avatar is you, I can say your muscle is crappy. You are just too skinny and too small. I won't post that humiliating photo if I were you.

Fact is I am not sellman, nothing to sell. You want to sell something? Go Mudah.com and not LYF and pick fight with genuine forumners. You do crappy building, careful, might get you stroke or heart attack for training wrongly. Advise from oldman.

This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 22 2013, 11:14 PM
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post Jul 22 2013, 11:20 PM

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Bro, how is 50kg rear metal bar for lgt? Could u please give me a direct answer whether mmc is producing the type of metal bar that u said?
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post Jul 22 2013, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:12 PM)
If that photo in your avatar is you, I can say your muscle is crappy. You are just too skinny and too small. I won't post that humiliating photo if I were you.

Fact is I am not sellman, nothing to sell. You want to sell something? Go Mudah.com and not LYF and pick fight with genuine forumners. You do crappy building, careful, might get you stroke or heart attack for training wrongly. Advise from oldman.
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Don't call yourself as a debater, you are not a debater.
I think you got mental problem.

Do you know how to write "shame"?

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post Jul 22 2013, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:10 PM)
Bunch of sales related people still refused to surrender? Based on what you are selling, ofcourse, you sell only accessories. The others, something else. Anyway, whatever you bunch selling, they are related to Inspira sales. More people buy Inspira means higher chance they will buy things from you.

You should know, if you are into sales line, you should not offend others especially getting into personal fight which is bad for your business. Since you so doubtful on the 50kg difference, feel free to clarify with MMC technical department for full details. Remember to specify Lancer '07 to '12. Not the current detuned variant.

Whatever thing is, the Lancer has been around since '07. It could be phased out anytime. You may stick to your Inspira and hope people would still pay RM90k for phased out car. The Forte that is further development out of the Lancer frame is also under replacement left only with remaining stock to clear off to make way for new Rio 1.6L sedan. You still want to argue about Lancer & Inspira? Wake up.
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you guys reading this??
oh mai .. Lolz

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post Jul 22 2013, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 22 2013, 11:37 PM)
you guys reading this??
oh mai .. Lolz
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You didn't know, Hyundai-Kia engines are developed with assistance from MMC-Chrysler? You didn't know Forte is based on the Lancer frame too? That is why it has the higher middle centre on the floor rear. If Forte is not based on Lancer platform, they would have made in flat like in the newer Elantra and Cerato floor. Torsion beam doesn't take as much space as Multi-Link. What makes you think the Koreans out of nowhere get all the tech? MMC currently focus on selling tech rather than cars. They earn more from doing so compared to risk losing in selling cars.

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post Jul 22 2013, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:44 PM)
You didn't know, Hyundai-Kia engines are developed with assistance from MMC-Chrysler? You didn't know Forte is based on the Lancer frame too? That is why it has the higher middle centre on the floor rear. If Forte is not based on Lancer platform, they would have made in flat like in the newer Elantra and Cerato floor. Torsion beam doesn't take as much space as Multi-Link. What makes you think the Koreans out of nowhere get all the tech? MMC currently focus on selling tech rather than cars. They earn more from doing so compared to risk losing in selling cars.
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Lolzz .. Go on.. Go on.. rclxm9.gif

Btw.. I think u meant Lancer GT chassis rite? Not lancer GL rite? whistling.gif

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post Jul 23 2013, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 22 2013, 11:49 PM)
Lolzz .. Go on.. Go on.. rclxm9.gif

Btw.. I think u meant Lancer GT chassis rite? Not lancer GL rite? whistling.gif
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from craptorism theory of chasis - lancer section

lancer GT chasis = lancer GL chasis + 50KG METAL BAR
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:12 PM)
If that photo in your avatar is you, I can say your muscle is crappy. You are just too skinny and too small. I won't post that humiliating photo if I were you.

Fact is I am not sellman, nothing to sell. You want to sell something? Go Mudah.com and not LYF and pick fight with genuine forumners. You do crappy building, careful, might get you stroke or heart attack for training wrongly. Advise from oldman.
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This must quote!!!

Now who is going personal?
Ppl is asking u question, ask u give fact.
You ask ppl fly kite.


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post Jul 23 2013, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:44 PM)
You didn't know, Hyundai-Kia engines are developed with assistance from MMC-Chrysler? You didn't know Forte is based on the Lancer frame too? That is why it has the higher middle centre on the floor rear. If Forte is not based on Lancer platform, they would have made in flat like in the newer Elantra and Cerato floor. Torsion beam doesn't take as much space as Multi-Link. What makes you think the Koreans out of nowhere get all the tech? MMC currently focus on selling tech rather than cars. They earn more from doing so compared to risk losing in selling cars.
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Ah I see!!!!

No wonder la.... The othe day I sit the old Honda city. The floor also not flat. I so feel I in a lancer-frame.
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post Jul 23 2013, 12:15 AM

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If Jaycraptheory is true....
Inspira chasis = lancer gl chasis
Lancer gt chasis = lancer gl chasis + 50kg rear metal bar
Lancer gt chasis = inspira chasis + 50kg rear metal bar
So wat I need now is the 50kg rear metal bar.
However 50kg rear metal bar = jaycraptheory myth
Thus, Lancer gt chasis = inspira chasis + jaycraptheory myth
So if jaycraptheory myth = not exist,
Lancer gt chasis = inspira chasis
Am I correct? Pls enlighten me, i'm lost
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post Jul 23 2013, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:44 PM)
You didn't know, Hyundai-Kia engines are developed with assistance from MMC-Chrysler? You didn't know Forte is based on the Lancer frame too? That is why it has the higher middle centre on the floor rear. If Forte is not based on Lancer platform, they would have made in flat like in the newer Elantra and Cerato floor. Torsion beam doesn't take as much space as Multi-Link. What makes you think the Koreans out of nowhere get all the tech? MMC currently focus on selling tech rather than cars. They earn more from doing so compared to risk losing in selling cars.
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walao means almost every car i've sat in my life all based on lancer chasis ? shocking.gif

damm even my honda city also based on lancer chasis. can vroom vroom edi
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jul 23 2013, 12:33 AM)
walao means almost every car i've sat in my life all based on lancer chasis ?  shocking.gif

damm even my honda city also based on lancer chasis. can vroom vroom edi
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:10 PM)
Bunch of sales related people still refused to surrender? Based on what you are selling, ofcourse, you sell only accessories. The others, something else. Anyway, whatever you bunch selling, they are related to Inspira sales. More people buy Inspira means higher chance they will buy things from you.

You should know, if you are into sales line, you should not offend others especially getting into personal fight which is bad for your business. Since you so doubtful on the 50kg difference, feel free to clarify with MMC technical department for full details. Remember to specify Lancer '07 to '12. Not the current detuned variant.

Whatever thing is, the Lancer has been around since '07. It could be phased out anytime. You may stick to your Inspira and hope people would still pay RM90k for phased out car. The Forte that is further development out of the Lancer frame is also under replacement left only with remaining stock to clear off to make way for new Rio 1.6L sedan. You still want to argue about Lancer & Inspira? Wake up.
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so how about lancer then?? u pay more than rm120k for a phase out car?
but wikipedia states Forte 1st gen is based on Hyundai HD platform, and Hyundai HD platform was never linked with Lancer platform.

the Rio 3rd Gen (UB) platform is also based on Hyundai Accent (RB) platform so how can it be related to the new Kia K3/Cerato, which is based on Hyundai Elantra (MD) platform?

QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 22 2013, 11:44 PM)
You didn't know, Hyundai-Kia engines are developed with assistance from MMC-Chrysler? You didn't know Forte is based on the Lancer frame too? That is why it has the higher middle centre on the floor rear. If Forte is not based on Lancer platform, they would have made in flat like in the newer Elantra and Cerato floor. Torsion beam doesn't take as much space as Multi-Link. What makes you think the Koreans out of nowhere get all the tech? MMC currently focus on selling tech rather than cars. They earn more from doing so compared to risk losing in selling cars.
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From wikipedia: The cylinder block and other basic structural parts of the engine were jointly developed by the GEMA companies, but the intake and exhaust manifolds, the cylinder head’s intake and exhaust ports, and other elements related to engine tuning were independently developed by Mitsubishi.

So wikipedia tipu? your higher source of technical confirm this?

Mitusbishi Lancer is using the GS platform woh, neva stated also this platform is being shared by Hyundai or Kia?
The manufacturere sharing the GS platform are: Chrysler/Fiat, Peugot/Citroen and of coz Proton Inspira. So wikipedia lie again?

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post Jul 23 2013, 12:43 AM

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Not lie, just the wikipedia information is wrong, based on jaycraptor theory, might need to venture wikithai for full details, otherwise need to fly to japan and search for enlightenment there
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post Jul 23 2013, 12:58 AM

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as long as info from other place rather than thai brochure then its wrong la!
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post Jul 23 2013, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Jul 23 2013, 12:43 AM)
Not lie, just the wikipedia information is wrong, based on jaycraptor theory, might need to venture wikithai for full details, otherwise need to fly to japan and search for enlightenment there
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Like!

Service manual oso wrong.. U says wiki wrong or not lo
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 23 2013, 08:38 AM)
Like!

Service manual oso wrong.. U says wiki wrong or not lo
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wikithai even mentioned that forte same platform with lancer
no wonder T630 got himself a forte and a cheapo lala

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