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 Cerato vs focus vs civic, Which will be best?

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TSalvinfcj
post Jul 14 2013, 10:59 PM, updated 13y ago

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Hi there, I'm about to buy either 1 of these 3 choices. I'm hoping all sifu can help me out abit here about choosing which is best.

I doesn't look at RV as the main reason of purchase. I wAnt something fun to drive.

Many argues the ford being the best in terms of driving experience and performance, but I also read up a lot of complaint abt the ford dual clutch.

Any sifu can help me in clearing my doubts.

Thanks in advance.

This post has been edited by alvinfcj: Jul 14 2013, 11:09 PM
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post Jul 14 2013, 11:08 PM

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Oh sorry.. Focus I mean.. Let me edit it..
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post Jul 14 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(yayiyu99 @ Jul 14 2013, 11:04 PM)
Very easy answer. Of course Honda Civic. No competition at all.
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Why bro?
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post Jul 14 2013, 11:12 PM

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Any particular reason why many of u all say civic?
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post Jul 14 2013, 11:14 PM

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Even if RV is not my main concern, u all still recommend civic? Any particular reason to it?

To be honest, my first and second choice is focus and cerato..

But my dad did poison me real hard in terms of the goodness of getting a H badge.. Particularly on the RV.. But I still stand strong on my point that I do not want to look at RV..

But my guts feeling tell me I might regret not buying the civic if I nvr really find out what goods that civic got to offer besides the RV.


So I post here hoping all the sifus can provide some feedback in terms of how each of the 3 car compare to each other rather than the RV..



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post Jul 14 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 14 2013, 11:20 PM)
Lucky there was no altis in the list...

One dude ask me why i bought 308T instead of Altis...because he see a lot of ppl using Altis...so performance of altis should be better..hahaha
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Lol.... New altis not here yet.. So can't be added to the list.. Haha..

But reading from the brochures, civic is already on the losing side with what they offer.. And I test drive all 3 already.. I was hoping some sifu could give me some good feedback from civic and focus which they drove it for quite sometimes.

I believ ppl who drove for a few months is much better than me who test drive them for a few minutes only..

P:s Cerato just launch, so basically nothing much to comment... Haha...
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post Jul 14 2013, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Mamapapamsia @ Jul 14 2013, 11:41 PM)
LOL...yes RV is not the problem.But a few years down the road when u want to sell the car to 2nd hand car dealer, the dealer oso dont wanna buy a Ford from you .

So its not about RV already.Even u throw at dealer cheap price oso dealer dont wanna take. Cuz the chances of dealer reselling the Ford is very very low.
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Lol.. I stated this b4 in some other thread and I going to say it again...

If buying a car and always focusing on RV and not making much lost, then don't buy a new car in the first place.. Your current car can still take u to ur destination.. No losses.. Best.. rclxms.gif
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post Jul 14 2013, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 14 2013, 11:48 PM)
i think you have your answer already brows.gif  brows.gif
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Lol.. I still waiting for some pro come in and tell me what is the experience like driving a civic and how good/bad it is compare to others..

But, like u said earlier, people only care abt the RV..

And up till now, ppl still comment about RV regardless how much I stress out it is not the main concern over here.. rclxub.gif

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post Jul 14 2013, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 14 2013, 11:51 PM)
Indeed they have a crystal clear ball... But it is about past facts that is mayb 10 years ago whereby how T and H dominates the car market in Malaysia..

But the crystal ball to the future, still polishing I guess.. sweat.gif
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post Jul 15 2013, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(fong928 @ Jul 15 2013, 12:13 AM)
if u want a fun car, then civic and focus are in this category. cerato definitely out.

focus handling, technology specs should be better than civic.
how about peugeot408 turbo? powerful and also good in conering, can be considered, but just reliable issue only.
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Oo.... The 408t.. Yeah.. But I check the maintainance cost, mahal o... Average at about rm500 per service... But it's 10k service 1 time la.. :/


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post Jul 15 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Jul 15 2013, 08:42 AM)
Civic

Pros
1. Better resale value
2. Easier to locate spareparts
3. More comfortable backseats and more spacious for passengers
4. Smooth 5-speed auto

Cons
1. Lousy interior quality
2. When new sure nice to drive, after 3 years all the funny cicak noise sure come out ( judging from experience, i myself a honda owner before as well, many of my fellow honda friends also said so )
3. Handling definitely won't match focus, there's a reason why focus is the best car in class to drive.
4. Less powerful than the focus.
5. NVH definitely lose to focus, and with the 5-speed auto highway drive also will drink morefuel compared to focus.
6. Very expensive for what it offers, really kosong compared to focus
7. Spareparts around the same price if u go to SC, don't compare outside service because there's no warranty for the parts u purchase and most definitely can get replica easily.
8. Ugly and a lot of ah beng like honda and mod it tongue.gif

Focus

Pros.
1. Class leading NVH
2. Really fun to drive, just drive it around few corners then u will understand.
3. Powerful 2.0 N/A engine and fast changing gb once it's up to speed.
4. Free 3 years service
5. A lot of safety features for the money ( Honda lose kow kow on this alone, safety is very important in a new car )
6. Car feels really solid and stable ( the civic definitely cannot give you this feel, this is where the word "continental feel" comes in )
7. Looks fresh and sharp especially with the red colour
8. Seldom see ah beng focus driver which mod their car like ricer biggrin.gif

Cons.
1. Lousier resale value? Not sure about this, just look at fiesta, the resaule value is not that bad.
2. Less comfortable at the back and less legroom as well.
3. Slightly jerky during stop start traffic ( characteristic of DSG gb, VW also has this issue, if your leg can control it properly then it's going to be quite smooth )
4. Harder to locate spareparts for sure, but this might change since there's quite a lot more focus on the road compared to the old one.

Conclusion.

1. If driving is your number one priority - focus wins
2. Backseat comfort and space - Honda wins
3. Value for money - focus for sure, free 3 years service and lotsa gadgets+safety features

As for me, i love driving and backseat comfort is not my number one priority, so the focus wins hands down on this. Myself driving the mk2.5 focus tdci, smile on my face everytime i drive it.
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Thanks bro for the review and suggestion.. Really appreciate it...

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post Jul 15 2013, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(hazremi @ Jul 15 2013, 10:43 AM)
the problem ur relative had is without the warranty?

If right now, with the 3+5 warranty, will it solve the problem and be more peace in mind?
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post Jul 15 2013, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jul 15 2013, 10:10 AM)
Better u follow ur dad suggestion, buy a civic.

Pros
1. Better resale value, easier to sell & trade in (easier to upgrade to beemers, merz etc in future)..
2. Easier to locate spareparts
3. More comfortable backseats and more spacious for passengers
4. Smooth 5-speed auto
5. Judging from family experience, change honda to a honda, it's a realiable car. No cicak noice like a proton (maybe well maintain cars).
6. Handling still one of the best in class.
7. FC also one of the best in class. Can check reviews or fuelly.com
8. Not much issue to get sparepart or claim warranty.
9. Well spec, still 5 stars NCAP rating car.
10. Easy to mod. Many accessories dealers.

There is a reason why it is the best selling C-segment sedan here in Msia. u cant go wrong with it.
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ermm.. i will go test drive again and see see...

ermm how about the nvh of the civic? gooding?
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post Jul 15 2013, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 15 2013, 10:07 AM)
I had a chance to look at the Cerato over the weekend, didn't test drive the car unfortunately.

1st impressions

- High quality interior. Lots of soft touch materials everywhere. The rear doors were still using hard plastics for the panels but the front and dashboard area is well covered. Although the dashboard design looks better for the Civic because of the 2 tier look, but the quality belongs to the Cerato easily.

- Continental like design and features. Again, if you look at the doors, the seals, the interior and positioning. Even the doors feels like it's got some weight to it, compared to the Civic - which is lighter.

- Feature loaded. Again, it scores high both in terms of safety and gadgets. It practically has everything that you will need in a car. The 1.6 could do with a large capacitive touch-screen and HID and it would be perfect. The 2.0 could just use a larger touch-screen and it would be complete. As far as value goes, this is as good as it gets.

- Boot space. It's big and it's got fold down rear seats (New Civic does not have 60:40 split folding seats). Again, the boot looks bigger compared to the new Civic

- Rear lamps. The rear LED lights are gorgeous. Seriously!

This car definitely has got what it takes to best the Japanese in terms of kit and interior quality. If what you need is a car that gets you from A to B and back with no frills, this is definitely a good choice.
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ya man... i also like all the stuff they have.. But will you recommend this over the Focus and Civic? hmm.gif
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post Jul 15 2013, 02:31 PM

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lolol...

i appreciate all feedback from you guys...

ill re-test all the 3 car stated above.. becos it is my first car, i want the best out of it... if can, hopefully it can last me until im able to afford a b-segment car..

also, to stress out why i dont look at RV for purchase reason.. i nvr say that it is a bad thing to choose a car base on RV, for me it is just a +points and shouldnt be taken as the main point in buying a new car..

thats why im really hoping for some sifu here that had driven the civic for sometimes or made a comparision b4 between cerato,civic,focus to give some feedback on how they feel...

ill need to make a decision fast becos im quite tired of my current car (Potong WAJA)... The windows and gearbox are giving me problems again.. i wanna get rid of it asap so i wont need to fix it again...
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post Jul 15 2013, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 15 2013, 02:32 PM)
u mean d-segment?
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif yeah d-segment...

My bad~~~ sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jul 15 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(hazremi @ Jul 15 2013, 03:28 PM)
i was facing the same issue when buying my car recently.RV,ride quality,performance,comfort,fuel efficiency(very important),service interval,after sales are the factors which influenced my decision.

finally i decided to buy the new civic 2.0s after considering all the factors above.i havent regret the decision until now.i save a lot on FC,ownership cost(maintenance cost is low every 10k),comfort,reliability and also gaya mah..girls look higher on me now than before lulz (this is minor factor)
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the ride quality, performance > the focus? blink.gif

i cant argue the comfort becos civic is more spacious and the fuel efficiency is also slightly better then focus i think...
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post Jul 15 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(hazremi @ Jul 15 2013, 03:42 PM)
ride quality is fine on civic, just not the performance since this car is tuned for comfort.but u can switch to S mode to get sports performance which i rarely do....

anyway its TS choice...my relatives who writes the blog has been very anti to ford since his last awful experience..lolz..i said to him maybe the new focus is better..he simply replied that it is still ford,still problematic..

so TS,let us know your decision.
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ARGGHH!!! UGHH!!! EKKK!!!

so hard to make decision~~~~~


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post Jul 16 2013, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(maderfader @ Jul 16 2013, 11:38 AM)
TS,u have to live with the consequences that comes on any cars that u chose..think very hard on what is your most important criteria in getting a brand new car n stick with that..there's always opportunity-costs on any choice u make..enjoy some,loosing on something else..yes,u may make mistake,but that makes us human..if u can accept that,u will have a peace of mind on anything u chose
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Thanks for the advise bro..
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post Jul 16 2013, 12:16 PM

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One more thing, in terms of fc,

Civic > focus issit??

I usually stuck in jam for abt 1hr like that to go to work..

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