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ah_suknat
post Jul 18 2013, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Nicholas Chan @ Jul 18 2013, 01:37 AM)
I didn't see any of my fellow investors take 49% of a company via an investment unless it is a corporate turnaround and/or an acquisition deal. From where did you get such a figure from?
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erm, Dragon's Den?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22...1-3m-sales.html

Just an example

I am too, running a business, whereby my 2 friends are my angel investors.

Each of them contribute rm50k for 20% stakes each, making me lost 40% in total, they initially commanded more, but I manage to get the deal.

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post Jul 19 2013, 11:11 AM

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You use a dramatized show as a gauge for professional information?

Your statement actually proves that in saying you gave an individual 20% stake per angel to be correct accordingly to my previous message; as reference in my reply yesterday angels typically take anywhere from 3 - 20% individually.

So to say that you gave 2 separate angel investors 40%, or as another example 3 separate angels 60%, and conflate it to the claim that a typical angel take 49% is rather disingenuous.

QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 18 2013, 08:14 PM)
erm, Dragon's Den?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22...1-3m-sales.html

Just an example

I am too, running a business, whereby my 2 friends are my angel investors.

Each of them contribute rm50k for 20% stakes each, making me lost 40% in total, they initially commanded more, but I manage to get the deal.
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post Jul 19 2013, 11:14 AM

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If making conclusions based on the exact words you say are "jumping to conclusions", I don't know what quantifiable facts can any investor then use factually as a gauge in your case.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 18 2013, 10:22 AM)
Think you are jumping to many conclusions too fast.  biggrin.gif

They have already spent substantially on their R & D on their invention last two yaers without any income.

So financially pretty dried up.
So angel investments for marketing costs is required.
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post Jul 19 2013, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Nicholas Chan @ Jul 19 2013, 11:14 AM)
If making conclusions based on the exact words you say are "jumping to conclusions", I don't know what quantifiable facts can any investor then use factually as a gauge in your case.
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If this is not jumping to conclusion, I don't know what is.


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This is one clear sign to investors that this person has no sincerity or conviction in his own product. Personally I would never invest in such a person.



An investor can quantify by looking at the technology and the industry coupled with the biz blueprint.

You, however have jumped too fast to judgement even before you have seen anything.

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Nicholas Chan
post Jul 19 2013, 12:48 PM

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A company is led by its people, not its technology. Its success does not lie in paper plans nor in intellectual property.

You are free to your opinions on that statement. I am free to mine as a person that puts my money where my mouth is.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 19 2013, 11:26 AM)
If this is not jumping to conclusion, I don't know what is.
An investor can quantify by looking at the technology and the industry coupled with the biz blueprint.

You, however have jumped too fast to judgement even before you have seen anything.
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post Jul 19 2013, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Nicholas Chan @ Jul 19 2013, 12:48 PM)
A company is led by its people, not its technology. Its success does not lie in paper plans nor in intellectual property.

You are free to your opinions on that statement. I am free to mine as a person that puts my money where my mouth is.
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Are all companies led by scientists? biggrin.gif

Here we are discussin Angel/Cradle investments and a startup.

It seems you have meandered into success already!
If the company is already successful , we would NOT be discussing Angel/Cradle investors?
Which Angel investor would invest in a startup without product? rclxms.gif

I AM free to my opinion. My opinion is that you have jumping to stumping judgemental conclusions without even knowing.

We are behind keyboards....who gives a Flying Geez whither you put your money? tongue.gif

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post Jul 19 2013, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Nicholas Chan @ Jul 19 2013, 12:48 PM)

You are free to your opinions on that statement.
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Let me express my opinion. Your comment will be better off if you take down your avatar. No offence.....
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post Jul 19 2013, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 19 2013, 02:26 PM)
Let me express my opinion. Your comment will be better off if you take down your avatar. No offence.....
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You are free to yer opinion
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 19 2013, 02:31 PM)
You are free to yer opinion
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I express my opinion because he allows me to in the first place. It was my genuine opinion anyway.
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post Jul 19 2013, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 19 2013, 02:44 PM)
I express my opinion because he allows me to in the first place. It was my genuine opinion anyway.
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We should thank him for allowing us........

to express our opinions.
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post Jul 19 2013, 02:50 PM

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angel investor is sleeping partner?
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post Jul 19 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(maggi @ Jul 19 2013, 02:50 PM)
angel investor is sleeping partner?
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something like that
ah_suknat
post Jul 19 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Nicholas Chan @ Jul 19 2013, 03:11 AM)
You use a dramatized show as a gauge for professional information?

Your statement actually proves that in saying you gave an individual 20% stake per angel to be correct accordingly to my previous message; as reference in my reply yesterday angels typically take anywhere from 3 - 20% individually.

So to say that you gave 2 separate angel investors 40%, or as another example 3 separate angels 60%, and conflate it to the claim that a typical angel take 49% is rather disingenuous.
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Dramatised or not, the cash given is real, and professionals do seek them for investments. And are your investors are as rich and successful as the dragons?

And no.you.didn't mentioned the word individually. well even typically an individual investor "only" acquire 20% stakes, doesnt moot my comments for saying he could lost 49% of his own company stakes, who said he is going to find just one investor anyway?
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post Jul 20 2013, 12:02 AM

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And since when I said A typical investor will usually take 49% INDIVIDUALY??

Looks like you are not only good at putting your own money in where your mouth is, but other people words into your own mouth too.

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