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TSjohn19368
post Jul 11 2013, 12:25 PM, updated 13y ago

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Hi I tried to find the list of angel investors in Malaysia but couldn't find. I tried googling but still got nothing.

It would be great if you guys could provide some angel investors contacts/websites here thank you biggrin.gif
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post Jul 11 2013, 02:42 PM

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what is angel investor means? mind to elaborate more? hmm.gif
TSjohn19368
post Jul 11 2013, 04:18 PM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_investor
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post Jul 11 2013, 06:15 PM

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This one ah??

http://www.sc.com.my/eng/html/licensing/LoLI/RVCC.pdf
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post Jul 11 2013, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(john19368 @ Jul 11 2013, 12:25 PM)
Hi I tried to find the list of angel investors in Malaysia but couldn't find. I tried googling but still got nothing.

It would be great if you guys could provide some angel investors contacts/websites here thank you  biggrin.gif
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First of all, angel investors doesn’t come in a list, even in US, there’s no such list, it’s your own effort to find one, off the internet and talk your way to an agreement, but it’s rare anyone will just provide you the capital, without management authority.

Second, I am interested to invest in any ventures, but I am no Angel Investor, more to VC.You could talk to me if you are interested.

TSjohn19368
post Jul 12 2013, 06:44 PM

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ya most of the time angel investors dont make themselves known, so I am thinking if there is an official list? (the licensed or prominent ones)
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post Jul 12 2013, 07:07 PM

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You just want the list or are you looking for angel investors? For Malaysia, check up Cradle Fund as I know they are doing a roadshow now with a group of angel investors. Some of the good angel investors are actually based in Singapore, like Crystal Horse who invested in propwall, ibilik and another tuition site.
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post Jul 13 2013, 06:22 PM

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Are you willing to let go 49% of your company stake?


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post Jul 13 2013, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 13 2013, 06:22 PM)
Are you willing to let go 49% of your company stake?
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Its not about letting go 49% of the stake, but rather exchanging the 49% for proper guidance and support from those who have failed multiple times before succeeding.

Raising funds is very important since startups usually don't breakeven in 1-2 years. And time to market is crucial, especially when the barriers to entry are so low that copycats are everywhere.
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post Jul 14 2013, 06:45 PM

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anybody able to give more ideas? smile.gif
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post Jul 17 2013, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(john19368 @ Jul 14 2013, 06:45 PM)
anybody able to give more ideas? smile.gif
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Ur parents maybe?haha...
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post Jul 18 2013, 09:37 AM

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I didn't see any of my fellow investors take 49% of a company via an investment unless it is a corporate turnaround and/or an acquisition deal. From where did you get such a figure from?

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Are you willing to let go 49% of your company stake?
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Nicholas Chan
post Jul 18 2013, 09:38 AM

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That's a good observation, one which I noticed many whom are seeking investments in Malaysia do not understand (ie. leveraging on other's wisdom and connections)

QUOTE(YH90 @ Jul 13 2013, 07:20 PM)
Its not about letting go 49% of the stake, but rather exchanging the 49% for proper guidance and support from those who have failed multiple times before succeeding.

Raising funds is very important since startups usually don't breakeven in 1-2 years. And time to market is crucial, especially when the barriers to entry are so low that copycats are everywhere.
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post Jul 18 2013, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Nicholas Chan @ Jul 18 2013, 09:37 AM)
I didn't see any of my fellow investors take 49% of a company via an investment unless it is a corporate turnaround and/or an acquisition deal. From where did you get such a figure from?
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What % interest do angel investors normally aim?

Hows valuation done?
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post Jul 18 2013, 09:51 AM

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post Jul 18 2013, 09:56 AM

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It varies (typically) based on the amount of help (not just money) given to the startup.

Typical percentages ranges from 3 - 20%

Valuation is done differently by different investors. Some adopt market size as a primary gauge, others adopt extrapolation of billable invoices within 12 months, and so on and so forth. There is no fixed formula.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 18 2013, 09:45 AM)
What % interest do angel investors normally aim?

Hows valuation done?
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post Jul 18 2013, 09:58 AM

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Reference to this post, which entrepreneur in his/her right mind would reject a FIXED RATE, FIXED TERM bank loan in favour of an EQUITY investor?

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post Jul 18 2013, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Nicholas Chan @ Jul 18 2013, 09:58 AM)
Reference to this post, which entrepreneur in his/her right mind would reject a FIXED RATE, FIXED TERM bank loan in favour of an EQUITY investor?
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Fixed rate is good provided you can provide COLLATERALS. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 18 2013, 10:08 AM

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That wasn't my impression with the post, I bold-ed the words you written in the other post which clearly indicates that he REJECTS the use of bank loans.

In any case, if this is truly a good product, why isn't the inventor willing to take up personal lines of credit and/or mortgage his home and/or dip into his own savings? This is one clear sign to investors that this person has no sincerity or conviction in his own product. Personally I would never invest in such a person.

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Yes............he has very good knowledge of the industry.
He has a blue print of his biz plan.
As I have mentioned, its a present Rm4bil potential in Msia alone.
Indo is bigger!

He does not want bank loans.

He prefers venture capital injections as partners.
He has already identified some potentials partners.
But he needs some ideas on Valuations.


QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 18 2013, 10:01 AM)
Fixed rate is good provided you can provide COLLATERALS.    biggrin.gif
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This post has been edited by Nicholas Chan: Jul 18 2013, 10:08 AM
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post Jul 18 2013, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Nicholas Chan @ Jul 18 2013, 10:08 AM)
That wasn't my impression with the post, I bold-ed the words you written in the other post which clearly indicates that he REJECTS the use of bank loans.

In any case, if this is truly a good product, why isn't the inventor willing to take up personal lines of credit and/or mortgage his home and/or dip into his own savings? This is one clear sign to investors that this person has no sincerity or conviction in his own product. Personally I would never invest in such a person.
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Think you are jumping to many conclusions too fast. biggrin.gif

They have already spent substantially on their R & D on their invention last two yaers without any income.

So financially pretty dried up.
So angel investments for marketing costs is required.

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