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alexng2208
post Jul 4 2013, 02:29 PM

Why my warn is 0%? i miss my high warn
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QUOTE(butetzzz @ Jul 4 2013, 01:47 PM)
ok. but iswara maintenance high or not? turbo summore.
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agreed

change to proton saga sv

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post Jul 4 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(foolc @ Jul 4 2013, 02:28 PM)
afraid to invest anymore since i am tied with 2 property loans @ rm4500 pm

better keep high cash flow a bit to reduce any worry
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lye cheung, why don't you rent out the house which you are not staying? hmm.gif
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 4 2013, 02:25 PM)
i like it when more and more ppl are saying the things you say

when the majority of ppl think that something won't happen, that something *WILL* happen

when everyone and their great-great-grandmother think that the stock market gonna jump up, all will withdraw cash from bank and start buying stocks

and what will happen next ?

market crashes

it happens ***ALL THE TIME***

same with property market

the more ppl say "malaysia property bubble will never happen" the closer the bubble is
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lol... It won't ever happen. Even if does, it will short "fall" rather than a massive burst.

The reality is, expanding population, more youths are going out to work, government controlled banks, property market dominated by crony companies and etc... You think they will allow a bubble?

Why do you think the loan tenureship has been expanding? From 15 years, to 20 years, to 25 years, to 30 years and now 40 years. If they ever feel its going to burst, they will push it to 50 years. They have a strong grip over the whole thing.

Don't compare the stock market with property market. They don't operate in the same manner. Everyone goes into property market seeing a house can be both a necessity and an investment, while the stock market operates in the investment capacity.
TSfoolc
post Jul 4 2013, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 4 2013, 02:28 PM)
who cares what others think ?

i drive my old car, see polis road block also no scare --- polis look at my old car always wave me off one --- thinking this guy with old car poorfag, no way to get kopi duit from him, so off he goes

and every time i see the same polis stop ppl driving bmw, benz, and all kinds of fancy new cars in the same road block

padan muka la ...

as long as my pocket got money

as long as my bank account got money

as long as my businesses are making profit, who cares what others are looking at me, and my good old car ?
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what car?

my other coliq same level drive 5 series bmw, another just drive livina, one more drive wira only


TSfoolc
post Jul 4 2013, 02:32 PM

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other house under construction so cannot rent out
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:32 PM

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You are saving more than 1/3, you are doing very well
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(foolc @ Jul 4 2013, 02:02 PM)
senior it engineer
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got vacancy for junior IT ? blush.gif
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(lonelytraveller @ Jul 4 2013, 03:27 PM)
if/when bubble burst, you will only benefit if you do not need a bank loan

otherwise burst or no burst is still same. when got bubble, easy to get bank loan

when bubble burst, banks won't give out loans due to high NPLs

bubble burst usually coincides with recession. during recession, buying cheap house is the last on your priority list

i'm not saying it won't happen, but if you just have to strategize accordingly to benefit if and when it happens
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the thing is, when the bubble burst, ppl are dumping their property like mad

and all the while there are gems that can be picked up very cheap

that's when ppl who got CASH who untung

that is what i am telling ts --- keep the cash handy

sell the 2nd house for a profit (a big profit for ts since his properties are in penang), and then wait

the bubble is coming, i can't tell you the exact date, but i know it's coming

the whole thing is converging --- from the "hot money" pulling out, to the lack of economic activity in malaysia, to the drying of funds from the malaysian government, and so on ... ---

the property bubble of malaysia is a question of when, not if
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(foolc @ Jul 4 2013, 03:31 PM)
what car?

my other coliq same level drive 5 series bmw, another just drive livina, one more drive wira only
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a 17 year old toyota

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post Jul 4 2013, 02:34 PM

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at least a toyota

mine is 17 yrs proton
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QUOTE(Flaming_lion @ Jul 4 2013, 03:30 PM)
lol... It won't ever happen. Even if does, it will short "fall" rather than a massive burst.

The reality is, expanding population, more youths are going out to work, government controlled banks, property market dominated by crony companies and etc... You think they will allow a bubble?

Why do you think the loan tenureship has been expanding? From 15 years, to 20 years, to 25 years, to 30 years and now 40 years. If they ever feel its going to burst, they will push it to 50 years. They have a strong grip over the whole thing.

Don't compare the stock market with property  market. They don't operate in the same manner. Everyone goes into property market seeing a house can be both a necessity and an investment, while the stock market operates in the investment capacity.
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u were not there in california back in 2009

u dunno what u are talking about

i was there, i got to pick up some really nice properties
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:35 PM

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respect sama u, if i got 14k salary, i will be driving r35 d
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QUOTE(foolc @ Jul 4 2013, 03:34 PM)
at least a toyota

mine is 17 yrs proton
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but the cheapest model toyota, the one which they only sell in malaysia and indonesia

ahahaha, u know which model already, right ?
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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 4 2013, 02:32 PM)
the thing is, when the bubble burst, ppl are dumping their property like mad

and all the while there are gems that can be picked up very cheap

that's when ppl who got CASH who untung

that is what i am telling ts --- keep the cash handy

sell the 2nd house for a profit (a big profit for ts since his properties are in penang), and then wait

the bubble is coming, i can't tell you the exact date, but i know it's coming

the whole thing is converging --- from the "hot money" pulling out, to the lack of economic activity in malaysia, to the drying of funds from the malaysian government, and so on ... ---

the property bubble of malaysia is a question of when, not if
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Buying props depends on the price you buy and the location.

Good location will retain its value, regardless of ups and down market.

Take Subang Jaya where I stay for example, the during the 97 crisis it went down slightly, now it is very high up.

I seen the prices stagnate, but never collapse.
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Shawnzz @ Jul 4 2013, 02:35 PM)
respect sama u, if i got 14k salary, i will be driving r35 d
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must always remember car is liability

my classmate is a specialist in adventist earning rm80k per month yet just drives a 2007 camry

those srive new big cars are just the outside... poket kosong, so much worries.. always not enuff money, underwear koyak
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(foolc @ Jul 4 2013, 01:49 PM)
trying to reduce other expnses but cannot
like astro rm160 pm
streamyc rm130 pm

hp rm150 pm

electric rm150pm

those cant reduce
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assthrow can cut down.
Everything you need is in the screamyx, better yet change to unifi.

How come no insurance?
You or ur spouse die how your kid/family going to live?
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(ash tray @ Jul 4 2013, 02:34 PM)
u were not there in california back in 2009

u dunno what u are talking about

i was there, i got to pick up some really nice properties
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KL tu kat California ke setan?

You're comparing a hardcore capitalist nation with a overprotected Malaysia.
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jul 4 2013, 02:39 PM)
assthrow can cut down.
Everything you need is in the screamyx, better yet change to unifi.

How come no insurance?
You or ur spouse die how your kid/family going to live?
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insurance all included at prorated rate

basically after deduct all, can save rm4k pm + 3k ..bonus

saving rm7k per month
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post Jul 4 2013, 02:43 PM

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looks healthy for me, if you got another hundred grands in bank then you should spend another rm2k in property. like you said you wife will cover another part
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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Jul 4 2013, 03:36 PM)
Buying props depends on the price you buy and the location.

Good location will retain its value, regardless of ups and down market.

Take Subang Jaya where I stay for example, the during the 97 crisis it went down slightly, now it is very high up.

I seen the prices stagnate, but never collapse.
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back in 97 there was no such property boom in malaysia

now u go anywhere in malaysia, klang valley, jb, penang, u see building activities everywhere

and at night, you look at the flats ... u see only 15% of the apartments got lights on

yes, 15%

which means, more than 80% of the apartments are EMPTY, which means, ppl who bought those apartments are NOT making any money out of their so-called "investment"

it's the same everywhere

in jb, where my businesses are located, you can go to any neighborhood, old and new, and you see "lelong" stickers in front of vacant houses

and even the houses with no "lelong" stickers, you see them vacant, with overgrown grasses 2 feet tall

u know something is not balance already when things like that are happening in every single neighborhood

that's why when the bubble burst in malaysia this time, it gonna be BIG

and only ppl with CASH on hand will benefit

it will be a BUYER'S MARKET when the market crashes


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