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 altera vs Jobstreet, which 1 to choose?

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bobtiang
post May 12 2006, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(erictioh84 @ May 10 2006, 01:34 PM)
i got jobstreet offer already, but altera pass first interview and waiting for their call.

well, jobstreet is doing web base system, they offer me a job that working in R&D department for maintaining and research about jobstreet's online system.

i get a call from jobstreet and i told them i'm still considering about altera, and she(a job consultant) tell me that altera got high pay but very few exposure and software tools they use are just for their own product, so if u want change company, it's quite hard for u because you only learn c/C++ for their product.

she continues to mention that jobstreet is different, they will send me for training, expose to new technology, and is not like working in a factory and keep coding only.

so you guys think what she said is true? actually i can work with c/c++ or .net as well coz i know both of them. And now the problem is regarding my future i think once i step into either, there is no turning back for me. and i have to keep moving onward on the particular language.
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I worked in JobStreet, R&D dept. before. and then I work in a MNC comp.
so, I guess I am qualify to answer your question smile.gif
what the job consultant told you is abosolutely true! the R&D lead in jobstreet is a cool guy, he is super well versed in programming.

MNC:
after I joined MNC, I really can see the diff of getting hands on experience in difference tool and technology. you know lah, big company... rules and regulations here and there, bureaucracy.. so if you wanna develop something or do something with certain tools... always have to inline with dept. direction. by the time you had a chance to touch on SQL Server 2005, people already use Service Pack 3 or 4 smile.gif
ya... you may get a chance to travel once in a while, but you are still young and jes junior entry, no rush lah.

If you really like programming and wanna brush up your skills.. go for JobStreet.
by the way, jobstreet programmers are full of young dudes now.. quite a fun place to work I believe.

This post has been edited by bobtiang: May 12 2006, 02:23 AM
bobtiang
post May 12 2006, 06:18 AM

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aha.... i knew you will ask me why I change from JStreet to MNC smile.gif
well, the reason is quite simple, I love branded company, the salary is higher and I love travel after working for some time.

2 years... i think optimistically.. you can expect a 9-11% increase. thats a normal practice, unless they really lost their revenue.
so, after 2 years, you may get ~3K.

JStreet is listed nowadays, I am not sure how the employee purchase the option. you can check out with them, any other benefit or bonuses.

bobtiang
post May 12 2006, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(jane98209 @ May 12 2006, 08:42 AM)
can i know what's ur highest qualification ? why can offer so much?
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if you have a degree,
MNC can offer you at least 2.4-2.8K
Altera offer more cause they dont have bonuses, am I right?
JobStreet is not MNC, but they do offer good deal.

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post May 13 2006, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(erictioh84 @ May 13 2006, 12:27 AM)
the job consultant keep saying the jobstreet have better expose but altera not. and salary increment in jobstreet is faster. what you guys say about this?

as i count, if i work in altera for 3 years without increment is 3400x36=122400;

for working 3 years in jobstreet i assume in 2nd year my salary is 2800 and 3rd year my salary is 3400, all togehter : (2500x13)+(2800x13)+(3400x13)= 113100

see it's still lower than what i get in altera. then what benefits jobstreet has? salary sure altera wins.
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looks like your priority for the time being is salary. i can sense that you are pretty much prefer Altera.
of course, pay wise.. JStreet sure a bit lower compare to a many years MNC.
but, let me jes remind you that, you daily job scope, ppl around you, working environment... all this have to take into consideration. a few hundreds bucks wont compensate all this, at least for me.
and again, if you really wanna brush up your programming skills, go for JStreet.


anyway, its up to you to pick. else later, you blame us... biggrin.gif
so, make up your own mind....

by the way, who interviewed you in JStreet and Altera?

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post May 13 2006, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(erictioh84 @ May 13 2006, 12:19 PM)
can i ask a question.. why you guys said if i wanna brush up my programming skill then i go for jstreet else go for altera?  no programming brush up in altera ?
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coz I know JStreet R&D got a great lead, very techy in programming.
and in R&D, as the name goes...
Research - explore the best solution for a given biz requirement
Development - and with the research outcome, develop the product

for Altera, I would say most of the project technology has been fixed. normally you have to do whatever needed with the company best know practice. it's like you have to do it their way kind of thingy. I am not really sure about Altera soft dept. any guys from Altera? please advice.

and someone said Intel is another good choice.. why? look at the share price... ~USD19 doh.gif
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post May 14 2006, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ May 14 2006, 01:56 AM)
Unless it's the IT dept you'll probably be doing a lot of C++, Perl and the like.
I believe he's in the same company as me... but diff depts/jobs  tongue.gif
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aha.. good guess. I am in IT, software development.

 

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