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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V133, Bear coming?

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post Jul 8 2013, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 8 2013, 10:13 AM)
When people who sweep the floor also cost RM4k to employ..
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or the food they serve you cost RM 50 for them to purchase...
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post Jul 8 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jul 7 2013, 11:00 PM)
Sona another Cliq and Hibiscus...  hmm.gif

could be nice for goreng only....

until today i still dont agree the business model...

Welcome to Malaysia...  wub.gif
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agree with you. for ranhill most of the money collected will be towards paying debt sweat.gif
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post Jul 8 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 8 2013, 10:12 AM)
Boarding at MAS A380 to London, at least 80% occupancy rate and still wondering how MAS report loss year and year
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I think MAS loses money on domestic routes.

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post Jul 8 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 8 2013, 10:12 AM)
Boarding at MAS A380 to London, at least 80% occupancy rate and still wondering how MAS report loss year and year
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80% occupancy could be MAS staff in the plane, company giving free ticket for their staff every year.
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post Jul 8 2013, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Jul 8 2013, 10:24 AM)
Today in TheStar obituary got one Raymond Chan. Is he the RC who drives up the stock?
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If RC who goreng up the stock is dead, it will made it to the paper's headline.
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post Jul 8 2013, 11:27 AM

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I'm not sure about others, but I personally will pay more for travelling with MAS rather than Air Asia. I've had no pleasant experience flying with Air Asia but I got to admit it is very cheap. Yesterday promo to HK return flight RM 500+ for two person.
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post Jul 8 2013, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 8 2013, 10:12 AM)
Boarding at MAS A380 to London, at least 80% occupancy rate and still wondering how MAS report loss year and year
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tongue.gif They claimed the plane was old, oil consumption too heavy...............cant make money
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jul 8 2013, 10:53 AM)
I think MAS loses money on domestic routes.
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hmm.gif as I know they made money from domestic routes..............they plan to expand it too

they wanna cut the lose money INT route
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post Jul 8 2013, 11:31 AM

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hmm.gif No earth quake on MBSB, only drop few percent.............
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post Jul 8 2013, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jul 8 2013, 11:31 AM)
hmm.gif No earth quake on MBSB, only drop few percent.............
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U know what, MBSB is also operating so called shadow banking like the Ones in China ..

Shadow banking poses problem to Malaysia

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...3#axzz2YQFLaexT

In Malaysia, it isn't clear just how large the shadow banking system is as they are not captured in any formal banking statistics. But some estimates put it at easily several hundred billions the amount of money loaned out. Among the more prominent shadow banks are lenders such as the Government-owned Bank Rakyat Malaysia Bhd (Bank Rakyat) and public-listed Malaysia Building Society Bhd (MBSB).




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post Jul 8 2013, 11:53 AM

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A panic buy in MTDA hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 8 2013, 11:48 AM)
U know what,  MBSB is also operating so  called shadow banking like the Ones in China ..

Shadow banking poses problem to Malaysia

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...3#axzz2YQFLaexT

In Malaysia, it isn't clear just how large the shadow banking system is as they are not captured in any formal banking statistics. But some estimates put it at easily several hundred billions the amount of money loaned out. Among the more prominent shadow banks are lenders such as the Government-owned Bank Rakyat Malaysia Bhd (Bank Rakyat) and public-listed Malaysia Building Society Bhd (MBSB).
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hmm.gif Malaysia's practice really not that transparent, especially to those government's company.

EPF hold 60% above of MBSB's share..........another not transparent company is MAS
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 8 2013, 11:53 AM)
A panic buy in MTDA hmm.gif
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Congratulations. thumbup.gif

Nice waiting, bearing fruits now....
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post Jul 8 2013, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jul 8 2013, 11:54 AM)
hmm.gif Malaysia's practice really not that transparent, especially to those government's company.

EPF hold 60% above of MBSB's share..........another not transparent company is MAS
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Few hundred Billions....in shadow banking

But no statistics kept and no controls......

Sad to see EPF entity is providing toxic loans in Billions....

A "shadow banking" crisis is looming if left unchecked and could potentially derail the Malaysian financial markets and economy.

Read more: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...3#ixzz2YQJTkmNp
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Maybe now under the BNM watchdog . hmm.gif

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post Jul 8 2013, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 8 2013, 10:12 AM)
Boarding at MAS A380 to London, at least 80% occupancy rate and still wondering how MAS report loss year and year
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Because yield is poor, especially in First and Business Class.


QUOTE(river.sand @ Jul 8 2013, 10:53 AM)
I think MAS loses money on domestic routes.
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It has always been the international routes that are bleeding... as for domestic routes... well back in the 2005, the CEO then did openly say that of all of the domestic routes MAS was flying then, only three trunk routes were making money and those three trunk routes were said to be KL-KK, KL-Kuching and KL-Penang.

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 8 2013, 11:58 AM)
Congratulations. thumbup.gif

Nice waiting, bearing fruits now....
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Thanks. Did you buy?
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post Jul 8 2013, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 8 2013, 12:26 PM)
Thanks. Did you buy?
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ya a bit only thanks notworthy.gif
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post Jul 8 2013, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 8 2013, 12:29 PM)
ya a bit only thanks notworthy.gif
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Duit Raya, not bad for 11% run today. rclxms.gif
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post Jul 8 2013, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 8 2013, 11:27 AM)
I'm not sure about others, but I personally will pay more for travelling with MAS rather than Air Asia. I've had no pleasant experience flying with Air Asia but I got to admit it is very cheap. Yesterday promo to HK return flight RM 500+ for two person.
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for me, if it is long hour flight, MAS of course preferred provided both ticket doesn't much difference in term of price. nod.gif

Lowyat a lot of rich people, maybe some sit 1st class in every flight brows.gif or got private jet rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jul 8 2013, 12:02 PM)
Few hundred Billions....in shadow banking

But no statistics kept and no controls......

Sad to see EPF entity is providing toxic loans in Billions....

A "shadow banking" crisis is looming if left unchecked and could potentially derail the Malaysian financial markets and economy.

Read more: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...3#ixzz2YQJTkmNp
Follow us: @MsiaChronicle on Twitter
Maybe now under the BNM watchdog . hmm.gif
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For me, PNB fund also another type of shadow banking.

Imagine so many auntie uncle willing to wait it in long queue and gonna grab any available units. it is often mistaken perceived as save as FD.

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