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 Sony XPERIA™ Z Ultra Official Thread, available now- RM2299 (original Sony MY)

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marquis
post Jul 25 2013, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(dannygeni @ Jul 25 2013, 04:32 PM)
actually not allow to post.  haha..just i can confirm is 4G or not.
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Confirmation is good enough bro.

OMG! I need to find a sammy store! Huargh! Why la the Ultra no dummy set yet sad.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 06:19 AM

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QUOTE(deddo @ Jul 26 2013, 02:04 AM)
Okay will post later. But not unboxing or review one. I will just record palm rejection test only.  wink.gif
No, I just get back from watching movie, Despicable Me 2.
Now it's time to play  wink.gif
Go Sony KLCC there got display unit. Black and white.
Don't know  sweat.gif
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YOU ARE AN ANGEL! wub.gif

Thanks for the headsup man. I'm gonna go tomorrow and try it out in my hands!! Yay! No need for sammy shop!

PS: replying on a stupid phone sure is a pain. LYN don't have support for tapatalk does it?
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post Jul 26 2013, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Jul 26 2013, 09:38 AM)
Bro thank you very much!!!!!!!!

This proves that the digitizer cannot handle multi touch when writing. I think you are the first person in the world to confirm this. Would you mind if I reshare the video?
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So what was the big deal on the palm rejection tech thingy? Doesn't his video disprove that? The new tech doesn't work then? sweat.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Jul 26 2013, 09:45 AM)
See, consider how you write notes on paper. Your palm/edge of palm is resting on the paper. Or even if you were to hold a notepad, your thumb will grip an edge of the notebook touching the paper while your writing hand rests on the paper.

If you have to keep your writing hand OFF the writing surface and your other hand CANNOT touch the screen while writing, tell me how long can you sustain writing?

At best, you can only write a short sentence before your forearm starts feeling sore.
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Erm, I'm aware of how the tech works laugh.gif

Allow me to rephrase what I said to avoid any more confusion (apologies for that btw):

What's the big deal with the palm rejection technology if it doesn't work? The video clearly shows that it cannot accept stylus input whilst another is alreay present.

Or is there a certain way to hold the phone in order to make it work?

Or did they not include it in the ZU? I never really took much notice of this particular tech as more oft than not I'll be using the kb for input. Now that you've brought it up though, makes for an interesting discussion...and broadens our collective knowledge biggrin.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Jul 26 2013, 10:10 AM)
Since I'm a Note user, I use it for note taking and occasional sketching. The natural way of writing is you rest your palm edge on some surface to write.

The Note 2, at 5.5", sometimes needs you to place the palm at the bottom edge of the screen to write from the top of the screen. I can do this and still write without any problems.

If I had to keep my hand above the screen the whole time, I will not be able to take down notes more than 1 or 2 sentences at most. You can verify this by taking a small piece of paper, say  A5, and test writing with palm on paper and hand above paper.

Given the humongous size of the ZU, if you want to write notes in a meeting, which can get to be quite a lot, it will be natural to expect that you treat the screen surface as a regular writing surface since you are using a regular writing instrument ie pen/pencil.

I am fond of *active* digitizers I had contemplated the ZU as a refresh for my new device, but because I have tried many other styli for my other non-active digitizer device, I am more keenly aware of the need for palm rejection.
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You could sketch on a phone? Damn. Respect. After the palm pilot era, I don't think I've ever bothered with a stylus-based device. Having to "learn" the alphabet back then was quite a chore. Having tried to hover my whole hand without resting it on anything does make taking notes quite a chore, especially if the phone is held in one hand, whilst trying to write with the other.

So I guess the ZU is out of your list then? It's a shame that the "anything can be your stylus" marketing is just a gimmick though.

QUOTE(jloi @ Jul 26 2013, 10:12 AM)
Xperia Z and Honami
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SOURCE
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Does the white band make it look fatter or is it indeed fatter?
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post Jul 26 2013, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Jul 26 2013, 12:44 PM)
Like I said if u wanted to scribble a short sentence or 2 it can work but it does not have any app that is the equivalent of the samsung s-note so u cannot actually treat the xz screen as a sheet of paper.

I just sketch the occasional diagram during discussions.

ZU is still useful as a phablet though as it is the largest device in this category
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I see. Thanks for the info. I didn't know the Note's ability with the stylus was that...good. I have to revise my distaste for them laugh.gif

QUOTE(Hertz96 @ Jul 26 2013, 01:47 PM)
One of the lucky guys I guess. Anyone know when the LTE model will be available here? Or if someone is going there later, if you don't mind, please do me a favor and ask them about it. Thank you!  notworthy.gif
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I asked. Guy wasn't sure. He said (with a lot of hesitance and sounding very shifty) "sometime next month". So take it with a grain a whole bowl of salt.

On a relevant note, he also mentioned the SBH52 to be released at the same time as the LTE version.

QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 26 2013, 02:02 PM)
I want LTE, when LTE coming lei.. hmm........

Or just buy this non-LTE version, I can't use LTE also now......... but maybe another 2 to 3 months, LTE will coming in my area since i seen it last few weeks once.
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If LTE comes to your place and you bought the 3G version, then damn sien later. Haha. Or you could do like Uncle Benny I suppose. Just that like you said, not sure how the response of the general public would be towards this phone.

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Ok. I went to KLCC earlier today and fooled around with the phone for a bit. God almighty the phone is HUGE!

I've got relatively big hands and one handed operation was definitely a bit of challenge...but doable. Holding the phone in a natural grip, reaching the app drawer icon was almost impossible. I had to shift my grip to something bordering on unstable to be able to reach it. After opening the drawer though, reaching any of the apps on the screen was doable.

The phone may be huge, but imho, the weight distribution was very well managed. It felt very very light, but at the same time, sturdy. It definitely doesn't feel like a sammy (Not disrespecting you guys, just that sammys tend to feel plasticky and thus, fragile). I could hold the phone in one hand and navigate the screen well enough - unless, I had to open the app drawer. Dialing was also do-able with just one hand.

I tried to move the kb to the side (like the one shown in the vids) but didn't know how to do it. Asking the boy there didn't help either - even he didn't know how to do it. So not sure how viable it is for one-handed, text-based usage.

So to those with big hands, rejoice! One handed operation is almost possible biggrin.gif

I compared the phone to my pocket size too. Pocketable...but definite bulk. If you're wearing leather trousers...let's just say it'll turn heads. ifyouknowwhatimean.jpg

EDIT: just saw angelgemini's post about the staff discount. Interesting. Gonna check with someone if I can do that biggrin.gif Thanks man! Does this apply to accessories as well? Wanan get the SBH52 too if possible

This post has been edited by marquis: Jul 26 2013, 03:23 PM
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post Jul 26 2013, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(jloi @ Jul 26 2013, 03:25 PM)
so bro marquis getting this? brows.gif
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Once LTE rolls around brows.gif Boy am I glad I didn't get the Z laugh.gif

QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 26 2013, 03:33 PM)
Finally got confirmation from Sony Center (mid valley)  I can collect phone now till tomorrow. It will come with free powerbank n rays bag goodies
Many thanks to the forumer here who had help me n got a discounted price ( sorry cannot revealed here except is very good)
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Raya goody bag? I'm curious - what's inside? Raya packets? laugh.gif

Waiting for your review uncle! biggrin.gif

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