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English Clubs Chelsea FC V21, BPL - Norwich City v Chelsea 8.25pm #812

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post Jul 26 2013, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(bennyray @ Jul 26 2013, 06:20 PM)
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Hope we can win the cup along the way beating JM old club INTER and RM flex.gif
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post Jul 28 2013, 05:21 AM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jul 27 2013, 10:30 PM)
lol..ignore the youtube tittle..focus on the 3 goals..superb freekick by ballack..stunning goal by lampard..and ultimate goal by didier.. rclxm9.gif
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i did not click the utube, but i have one in my mind, i think is against EVERTON with long shot from LAMP and volley by DROGBA, is it this one ?

QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 27 2013, 11:43 PM)
Ginkel is doing well right now in friendlies...but the real test is when we fight true epl clubs with much more higher intensity and around the same standard....hopefully ginkel will be able to compete and prove himself that he owns those pivot spot....i would like to see him do well in those position smile.gif
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From what i see so far, JM will always have 1 DM pivot and 1 CM pivot to help a bit on attack, ESSIEN would be the DM pivot slot starting eleven, RAMIRES as the challenger, MIKEL we will have to see how he fare in USA, but unless he improve on his work rate, else i see him as a 3rd choice. GINKEL and LAMP will fight it out for the CM spot, LAMP are still first team material solely because he bang in goal, no one in our team at the moment are capable of totally replace LAMP because of this. I dont see OSCAR for the pivot role because like i always say the team need balance, not point just simply adding more attacking player, what is the point of more firepower if in the end the team is not balance and unable to win back ball and retain possession. But OSCAR can drop slightly deeper to play CM when we revert to 433 in the middle of the game.

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post Jul 29 2013, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(yiporan @ Jul 29 2013, 11:28 AM)
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It would be nice if this training kit was made as our home kit, more refreshing than the usual/trademark home design. But the stripe remind me of Sampdoria. Also to say our away kit super nice with white and stripe, if only we can wear all white together with pant and socks drool.gif wub.gif

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post Jul 30 2013, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jul 30 2013, 10:06 PM)
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woot looks like the full 25man squad for next season, and i am happy with it thumbup.gif and my man to watch list for USA tour will be MIKEL and TORRES.
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post Jul 31 2013, 06:17 AM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Jul 31 2013, 01:12 AM)
Hmmm...Kalas n Wallace not in the 25 Man squad. I think they be loaned out. Cb position is a concern for me. Currently only Terry, Cahill and Luiz for Mou as he stated before Iva is a right back. Luckily we have Essien that can slot into CB position. thumbup.gif
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CB we are pretty well covered, TERRY, CAHILL, LUIZ and IVA are all top quality experience CB. It remain the strongest department in the squad, as any of them play u will not feel much different or worried. With MARK joining us, our GK department also look solid. IVA was view as RB because we dont have anyone more experience to challenge AZPI on that spot, not until WALLACE are able to get work permit. I think KALAS is staying with us after finally getting the work permit. ESSIEN will be use as RB if necessary, as his time spend at RM are mostly playing RB.

Unless we have super bad luck with injury, our squad depth is definitely solid, maybe 2nd best below MANC in BPL as MANC are all veteran player but potential wise, ours are definitely more EXCITING drool.gif rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jul 31 2013, 09:02 PM

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hmm.gif EPSN rumour Valencia wanted TORRES, should we sell ? laugh.gif

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post Aug 1 2013, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(yiporan @ Aug 1 2013, 12:48 AM)
the problem is can valencia pay torres salary or torres willing to take pay cut, lol
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hmm.gif quite true, unless he was told not needed by the club, then he might leave because of World Cup year. If is not World Cup, he will definitely staying, because he know CHELSEA win trophy laugh.gif
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post Aug 2 2013, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Aug 1 2013, 09:18 PM)
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hope they can climb the league until Championship level (long long way to go) then our youngster can play some high lvl competitive game rclxms.gif but i do know there is a limit how many loan player can start in a game.

QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Aug 1 2013, 11:30 PM)
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if only he can use his leg tongue.gif

QUOTE(yiporan @ Aug 1 2013, 11:46 PM)
hilario giving 1 year extend. lol
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guess we are playing it safe, just in case shit like CECH + CUDICINI out at the same time happen again.

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post Aug 2 2013, 08:27 AM

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woot lightning fast counter 1-0 OSCAR nice curl thumbup.gif

2-0 HAZARD PK, ref got it wrong sweat.gif

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post Aug 2 2013, 10:14 AM

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FT CHELSEA 2-0 INTER.

RAMIRES was good a lot energy there, GINKEL look solid, LUKAKU off the ball movement is good, always moving always provide option.

HAZARD was disappointing, maybe because of high expectation on him, too much pattern, too many touches, no end product, losing ball, performance still similar to friendly matches in ASIA. MIKEL, first game under JM after long holiday, still same old MIKEl, happily walking there where else everyone is bz moving. TORRES no comment, came in late and does not have the ball much.

Is SCHURRLE injured ? never get to feature.

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post Aug 3 2013, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Aug 3 2013, 01:27 PM)
Best starting line up for me is

------------Cech---------------
Azpi---Cahill----Luiz----Cole
----Van Ginkel----Essien-----
Mata--------KDB-------Hazard
-----------Lukaku---------------

Terry is prone to mistake due to his age, Mikel lacks mobility, Torres hold up play not as good as Lukaku, Lamps' age preventing him to start every game and Oscar is not as good as KDB in my opinion. My reason to omit them from starting 11. brows.gif

Mou said before great players can play in any position, and he compared J.cole to Mata. So i'm quite sure Mata will be playing on the right cutting in and creating chances. Hazard will be playin on the left to cut in and shoot. Just like what Mou did with Di Maria and Ronaldo in Madrid. brows.gif
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Sorry, i think u got it a bit wrong there, age has nothing to do with making mistake, is actually quite the opposite, yes aging will take away your speed and ur stamina, but it also mean gaining experience. As a CB, experience is more important than the physical part.

And MATA definitely not the same type of player like DI MARIA or RONALDO. Both of them are speedy player and like take on defender which is crucial for the break neck speed counter and beating defender for cross in or cut into the box. While MATA does not really have that speed and rarely beat defender, his asset is his passing and vision. I see his best position is at AMC, OZIL role, spraying thru ball. A better comparison for DI MARIA or RONALDO type of player to us will be SHURRLE and HAZARD which both prefer the same role as AML and MOSES at AMR.

I also agree that KDB have been impressive during the friendly playing in the center role, where he play most at W.BREMEN while at GENK he was AML and is not exactly bad for KDB to play wing again because he got some really wicked cross. OSCAR play best at AMC, but at BRAZIL u can see he switch to left flank when NEYMAR cut in.

But i think who play where will be depend on who is starting, if OSCAR+MATA then most probably MATA on the wing, OSCAR center, if SCHURRLE+HAZARD then SCHURRLE left and HAZARD center or right. One thing for sure our AM are so flexible and during in game switching position it gonna give defender a hard time, man marking is difficult and a full back have to face few different type of player thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Aug 3 2013, 06:34 PM)
Some how I feel Terry is losing some of his touches. Cahill's performance speaks for himself. He is ready to fill the big boots in my opinion. brows.gif

About our AMF, I would have to agree with all of your point, Mata, Hazard, Oscar, KDB, Shurrle and Moses can all play in AMF, LMF or RMF. I'm sure Mou will ask them to rotate frequently in game to confuse the opponent and open up their defence.  brows.gif
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Ya agree, although all our 4 CB are quite reliable and i dont really mind who is starting, but if u ask me to pick the starting line up, i will pick CAHILL first, he has been improving a lot. While for another CB, if is a big game i would pick TERRY, i dunno somehow i felt he and LAMPARD always give the team the edge in fighting spirit and the never give up attitude. And u will look for them to the rescue when a goal is needed. LUIZ was ok, but i still feel a little bit of timebomb inside him. IVA play too much RB, but always get the job done when recall to CB.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 4 2013, 05:03 PM)
i think it depends on wether or not RM get Bale...if they get Bale > Ronaldo is free to go to united > rooney is free to go to chelsea....

kinda chain of reaction events...
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if BALE go RM for 100m, i wonder how much RONALDO will cost MANU, but i seriously doubt their american owner gonna sanction that kind of fund, they would rather service their loan debt laugh.gif
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QUOTE(franklooi96 @ Aug 5 2013, 07:12 AM)
Chelsea 1 - 0 (29") Kevin de Bruyne

I love this guy already. And van Ginkel too. The team looking very dangerous, flair and pace
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totally love our style of play, direct and fast, open up opponent quickly rather than dwelling on the pass and let opponent camp back at the box.

IVA wub.gif
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post Aug 5 2013, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Aug 5 2013, 07:25 AM)
From the post seem like we are doing good.
How is essien and bertrand performance?
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ESSIEN was ok, but seem like his passing range have improve, maybe because playing RB at RM now he can spray some long ball to the flank.


QUOTE(yinchet @ Aug 5 2013, 07:35 AM)
I see
Ginkel seem like a bargain buy.
Ba kena torres flue ? laugh.gif
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hmm seem like GINKEL is the combative type CM, dont expect much thru ball from him but he is those CM that do the dirty job breaking out play and commit tactical foul, something like KHEDIRA at RM

QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Aug 5 2013, 08:30 AM)
I dont know if he has given enough time or not but schurrle is terrible
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Most probably is rusty, same like TORRES trip by his own run but TORRES seem regain some of his speed, his sprinting is fast. While MATA lack match sharpness, see he dwell on ball too long before making a pass.

QUOTE(Ichighost @ Aug 5 2013, 07:39 AM)
the best move by Ba for this game..was a dummy run to open up space and attract defender for hazard to pass to kdb..and bang! goal !! hahaha  thumbup.gif

another highlight was..Iva nearly pulling a 'Zola' goal.. nod.gif but on different side of the post huhu
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IVA have a good game, as usual when recall to the CB he still get the job done. Clear on goal last minute tackle, back heel shoot saved by the keeper and take a yellow card for the team when he see opponent gonna take a long shot on target flex.gif

But my MOTM will be RAMIRES, by his today form, i will totally pick this guy as first eleven, his energy offer so much, beside those pressing and winning back ball, his speed supporting the counter is a real advantage to us, often sprinting so fast from deep and turn a 3 on 2 counter to a 3 on 3. He could have score a goal himself when 1 on 1 if not because of his unselfishness that decide to pass to LUKAKU. thumbup.gif

Now i can see why JM wanted ROONEY now and prefer an all rounder striker like BENZEMA over HIGUAIN, today our counter so many end up nothing because our striker like TORRES dont have the vision and pass to square into the box. He end up dwell on the ball and then all the defense arrive back to cover. If an all rounder striker like ROONEY that have good vision and pass this could result in goal.

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Aug 5 2013, 09:32 AM)
well torres not yet play properly with full set of passer..

------Oscar-Ginkel-------
Bruyne----Mata---Hazard
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Not saying TORRES is bad or something but we all know him play best running to ball and finishing it, passing and vision wise not really his best asset. I was just saying an all rounder striker will really do good for our formation to execute those counter move.

And i really dont think we will get to see OSCAR at that position, unless in desperate for goal situation. JM almost certain gonna play with 2 defensive CM and those position required covering for defender which i dont think OSCAR is suitable. Also his attribute is his close control touches bring ball up the field and linking up short passes, if we to utilise this he have to be up the field near the box. If COLE went up to overlap, GINKEL will move to cover COLE position then we have no one anchoring the center already. If we limit OSCAR to drop back, then he will not offer much. Even MATA will do a better job at CM position consider he at least can stay back and do those long range thru ball than OSCAR short passes. If we want more firepower, best bet LAMPARD, his vision to do long range thru ball from deep is very deadly for our counter attacking move and of course he trade mark run from deep into the box to score.
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QUOTE(wintzen @ Aug 5 2013, 10:25 AM)
Happy Monday everyone, those already on leave, Selamat Hari Raya!

Only got to watch the last 20 minutes or so but I thought the play is getting better compare to the Inter match. It's really going to be an exciting season now right? Jose didn't said we will win the title this season, unlike some certain Frenchman that said that his young team can win the title, but end up on the losing side in the Emirates Cup.

Certain Scotsman has been quite about their title chance and need to rely on the senior team members to give a hindsight on the game.

Now it's going to be Real Madrid then. Jose vs his old team, and Carlo also against his old team....will be a good match up don't you think?
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so bad lar DROGBA, the one and only cup they have high chance of winning also no give chance tongue.gif yup really cant wait to see our defend playing against RONALDO and gang. IVA or AZPI ? who will be better against RONALDO ? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Aug 5 2013, 01:30 PM)
well missing Oscar for sure..he will fighting for a more central role this season...CM and AM..

and I still not convince that Ginkel can hold the anchor man role..I prefer Mikel huhu..safe deposit...
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Aug 5 2013, 01:37 PM)
Maybe because i prefer attacking style football, feeling excited everytime I see Van Ginkel plays during this pre season tour. brows.gif Mikel for me is pure DM, he provides more safety compared to Van Ginkel, maybe some years of experience will improve Van Ginkel's game, but he is still 1 excited player to watch.

Yup, I hope Oscar can fight for a starting place in AM with Mata. He plays better as an AM in my opinion brows.gif
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Talking about MIKEL, today he is disappointing again, was hoping he will be improving but his work rate still suck and play it too safe. So many times when he receive the ball he decide to pass it back to the CB, even there are option up front. Not only that, after he do the pass he stand there like a deadwood. Come on, after u pass the ball u should be moving to provide option to receive the next pass, i think that is very basic but he been pretty lazy. I can still remember his Super Cup game last season, when he lose the ball, he did not even bother to run back to cover but just standing there. vmad.gif

I definitely rate him last in the starting order, RAM > ESSIEN > LAMP > GINKEL > MIKEL. He seem like lacking motivation while other are working so hard to claim a starting place. Maybe been at the club and comfortable for too long. But he do play better with NIGERIA taking more responsibility in advance role, at CHELSEA he been passive.

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woo IVA + RAM for RONALDO flex.gif
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lol looks like RAM bad touch become useful laugh.gif

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