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RegentCid
post Nov 27 2013, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Nov 27 2013, 10:55 AM)
i heard peach airline belong to hongkie...
pity tony fernandes, hv to withdraw from aa japan
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post Nov 27 2013, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Nov 26 2013, 06:11 PM)
Booked KUL-KIX and HND-KUL, end of Nov 2014. (1 week)

Will need help from sifus here again. Should be no problem with Tokyo, but first time going to Osaka/Kyoto.

No proper itinerary yet as it is 1 year away  doh.gif but just some rough question.
1. For Osaka-Kyoto-Nara, it is a good or bad idea to set Osaka as the base and travel daily?

2. Where to keep luggage at Nara?

3. From Osaka/Kyoto to Tokyo, it it worthwhile to buy JR pass for the Shinkansen or just fly with Peach?

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post Nov 27 2013, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Nov 27 2013, 12:28 PM)
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You should do the homework first then only can get my Answer.

1st Question:
I set my base at Kansai Airport. brows.gif brows.gif My hotel room is the Gulf G-6.
If Set HQ.....I perfer Osaka because nightlife

2nd Question:
Train Station. Which train station much better? you need do homework.


About 3rd Question:
have you try Shinkansen before? If no then take Train. If try alot alot times like me until Fxxx boring. then take Peach Airline.

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Nov 27 2013, 01:36 PM)
You should do the homework first then only can get my Answer.

1st Question:
I set my base at Kansai Airport.  brows.gif  brows.gif    My hotel room is the Gulf G-6. 
If Set HQ.....I perfer Osaka because nightlife

2nd Question:
Train Station.  Which train station much better?  you need do homework.
About 3rd Question:
have you try Shinkansen before?  If no then take Train.  If try alot alot times like me until Fxxx boring. then take Peach Airline.
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Sure will do home work biggrin.gif

1. Alright, so it's not a stupid idea to travel daily to kyoto afterall.
2. Well ok, so its the station locker. This one no problem. If i confirm set Osaka as base, then this consider solved dy.
3. Taken Shinkansen from Tokyo to Odarawa before lol..consider taken la...i will plan the route to see whether I can use the JR pass to the max or not first. Peach is around 5000 Yen, but time is not flexible and need to waste time at airport. Also, it lands at Narita. Correct me if I am wrong, we can sit at the unreserved seat at the Shinkansen using JR pass right? So the time flexibility is there.
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post Nov 27 2013, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Nov 27 2013, 08:16 AM)
Take Peach Airline.  From Kansai to Sapporo just 8000 Yen Per way
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Flying from Tokyo and Peach dont fly to Sapporo from Tokyo. Also I am flying during peak period which is 22nd Dec. Also including 4 days hotel and two way flight from tokyo its 30,000yen/person.

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post Nov 27 2013, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Nov 27 2013, 05:42 PM)
Sure will do home work biggrin.gif

1. Alright, so it's not a stupid idea to travel daily to kyoto afterall.
2. Well ok, so its the station locker. This one no problem. If i confirm set Osaka as base, then this consider solved dy.
3. Taken Shinkansen from Tokyo to Odarawa before lol..consider taken la...i will plan the route to see whether I can use the JR pass to the max or not first. Peach is around 5000 Yen, but time is not flexible and need to waste time at airport. Also, it lands at Narita. Correct me if I am wrong, we can sit at the unreserved seat at the Shinkansen using JR pass right? So the time flexibility is there.
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All shinkanshen seat must reserve. Even Jr rail pass also need reserve seat.

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^alright alright. Thanks.

The flaying rate by Peach Airline and hotel rates (most) are not released by Agoda, etc. Any idea when usually they will update the system? Need to grab quickly.
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post Nov 27 2013, 10:09 PM

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Japanese booking system only works at 6 month.

mean if you going on Dec 2014. The booking only start accept at 2014 Jun
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post Nov 28 2013, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 27 2013, 02:22 AM)
ermm..

this is what I got from internet:

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JR by ahpaul82, on Flickr

I don't think your JR Pass cannot use on the shinkasen to Hakodate..  sweat.gif

the 6hours+ train I mentioned is from Tokyo to Hakodate only. 

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JR02 by ahpaul82, on Flickr

of coz you need calculate in the 3hours+ time if you travel from Hakodate to Sapporo without stopping at Hakodate,

then the total travel time is 10hours+  rclxub.gif

you can consider stay a night in Hakodate if you going to Hakodate via train,

then only from Hokadate > Sapporo > Otaru and Asahikawa.

after finish visiting Hokkaido heading back to Tokyo, you can consider taking one way flight from Sapporo to Tokyo.
anyway,

since you have purchased the one way ticket from Tokyo to Sapporo,

my suggestion no longer important lah.
If Hakodate is one of your itinerary,

You have no other choice but spend 3hours+ train travel there from Sapporo,

and consider staying a night there if you are not rushing back on same day.
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Thanks buddy for your suggestion. Will keep it in mind.


QUOTE(mat sputnik @ Nov 27 2013, 07:14 AM)
We did Tokyo-Sapporo by train with JR Pass.  No need to rush, good journey.

See  http://m.naim.my/japan-dec-2011-collection-of-stories/
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Nov 27 2013, 08:10 AM)
Make it easy

From Tokyo to Sapporo by using Shinkansen.

First you only can reach Shin-Aomori Station.   From Shin-Aomori Station to Hakodate by Limited express Train.  Then from Hakodate to Sapporo // Otaru by Limited Express Train .
If you guys going on Winter day such as Dec to March.   There is no way you can reach Sapporo from Tokyo by one day.   Due to snow and strong wind the train will delay.  Basically you will miss the last limited Express.

Maximum you can reach is Aomori.   If you damm lucky Maximum is Hakodate.   Stay one night at Aomori // Hakodate.  Tml morning take most early Limited Express which is 9am continue to Sapporo.
If you using JR Rail Pass then whole Journey are cover.  Now JR Rail Pass are Cover ''Hayabusha'' Shinkansen already.  Except ''Nozomi''  & ''Mizuho''
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@RegentCid - from Sapporo-Hakodate (LTD. EXP SUPER HOKUTO 2) and Hakodate-Sgin Aomori (LTD. EXP HAKUCHO 28) are using Limited Express Train right ?

Do I still need to top-up for express service even I have JR Pass... or it will be free ? This is my actual concern. If yes, how much I should top-up?

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QUOTE(zaff1984 @ Nov 28 2013, 01:30 AM)
Thanks buddy for your suggestion. Will keep it in mind.
Thanks for sharing, would love the hear your experience and tips smile.gif
@RegentCid - from Sapporo-Hakodate (LTD. EXP SUPER HOKUTO 2) and Hakodate-Sgin Aomori (LTD. EXP HAKUCHO 28) are using Limited Express Train right ?

Do I still need to top-up for express service even I have JR Pass... or it will be free ? This is my actual concern. If yes, how much I should top-up?
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Is Cover by JR Rail Pass. No need any top up,
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QUOTE(zaff1984 @ Nov 28 2013, 02:30 AM)
Thanks buddy for your suggestion. Will keep it in mind.
Thanks for sharing, would love the hear your experience and tips smile.gif
@RegentCid - from Sapporo-Hakodate (LTD. EXP SUPER HOKUTO 2) and Hakodate-Sgin Aomori (LTD. EXP HAKUCHO 28) are using Limited Express Train right ?

Do I still need to top-up for express service even I have JR Pass... or it will be free ? This is my actual concern. If yes, how much I should top-up?
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Since you have purchased the air ticket to Sapporo,

Might as well you itinerary is,

Sapporo > Otaru > Asahikawa > Hokadate.

because you definitely need to go Hokadate when you heading back to Tokyo using Train... biggrin.gif

Any final confirmation still based on what RegentCid suggested as he is Guru here.

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 28 2013, 08:28 AM)
Since you have purchased the air ticket to Sapporo,

Might as well you itinerary is,

Sapporo > Otaru > Asahikawa > Hokadate.


Any final confirmation still based on what [aRegentCid] suggested as he is Guru here.
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NO NO Mo.....

Should be Sapporo > Asahikawa > Otaru > Hakodate.

Because on the way to Hakodate will pass Otaru. This way more appropriate. No need go east then west then east again.
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Nov 28 2013, 09:36 AM)
NO NO Mo.....

Should be Sapporo > Asahikawa > Otaru > Hakodate.

Because on the way to Hakodate will pass Otaru.  This way more appropriate.   No need go east then west then east again.
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Ohhh..

Guru has spoken,

definitely agreed with you. rclxms.gif

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but wait,

As I know,

train from Otaru only arrive to Oshamanbe woh,

need transfer in order to go Hakodate?

Unless he from Otaru back to Sapporo again to take LTD. EXP SUPER HOKUTO 2 to Hakodate.

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Sapporo to Otaru just less than 1hr train ride right ? so day trip from Sapporo is sufficient right ?

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BUT I'm not sure about this route. 300+km !!?

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 28 2013, 08:39 AM)
Ohhh.. 

Guru has spoken,

definitely agreed with you.  rclxms.gif

edited:

but wait,

As I know,

train from Otaru only arrive to Oshamanbe woh,

need transfer in order to go Hakodate?

Unless he from Otaru back to Sapporo again to take LTD. EXP SUPER HOKUTO 2 to Hakodate.
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Yes.

From Otaru to Hakodate. You can take Local train to Oshamanbe then change to Limited Express to Hakodate.

Or

You can go back to Sapporo again then take Limited Express all the way to Hakodate. [[JR Rail Pass User This way much better]]

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QUOTE(zaff1984 @ Nov 28 2013, 09:59 AM)
Sapporo to Otaru just less than 1hr train ride right ? so day trip from Sapporo is sufficient right ?

user posted image

BUT I'm not sure about this route. 300+km !!?

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Bro,

you can use Google Maps as alternative to roughly know distance, route and fare.

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rougly need 30-40mins depends on which train you take.

day trip are okay.

QUOTE(RegentCid @ Nov 28 2013, 10:11 AM)
Yes.

Or you can go back to Sapporo again then take Limited Express all the way to Hakodate.
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you edited more faster than me reply tongue.gif

from Otaru Station to Oshamanbe need 3hours via Local train,

then need 1hours+ from there to Hakodate if using LXT.


anyway,

what we want to said from here is,

No matter which route you take,

You have to spend at least 3-4hours to arrive Hakodate.

Japan big mah.. rolleyes.gif



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Basically will be like this way

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Nov 28 2013, 10:28 AM)
user posted image
Basically will be like this way

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Yup Yup,

I paham,

I use Google Maps compare both distance/route end up almost same time consumed. laugh.gif

but I personal will suggest zaff1984 to take LXT from Sapporo bound to Hakodate due to Sapporo is first station,

at least getting seats chances is much higher. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Nov 28 2013, 09:34 AM)
Yup Yup,

I paham,

I use Google Maps compare both distance/route end up almost same time consumed.  laugh.gif

but I personal will suggest zaff1984 to take LXT from Sapporo bound to Hakodate due to Sapporo is first station,

at least getting seats chances is much higher.  tongue.gif
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Limited Express are Reserved Seat like Shinkansen. Even ride from Oshamanbe also same.

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