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Sabenarian
post Sep 24 2013, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Sep 24 2013, 04:09 PM)
AH will be replaced 3rd party websites

My barbarian level up until ow also never get strength Skorn, Mempo

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Without AH, many will be doomed if the drops are useless

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/kelThuz...4/hero/26157722

Been hunting all these while, still get sucky item, what to do???
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actually with current AH state, not hard to get 200k dps (with SoJ)with OK ehp... shop smart is the key..
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post Sep 24 2013, 05:19 PM

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that means I would need at least 300m for shopping...urgh
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post Sep 24 2013, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Sep 24 2013, 05:19 PM)
that means I would need at least 300m for shopping...urgh
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just need more farming and AH-ing... this is diablo 3 bro biggrin.gif
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post Sep 24 2013, 05:37 PM

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haha..guess i will keep grinding till para100!!!!
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post Sep 24 2013, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Sep 24 2013, 05:37 PM)
haha..guess i will keep grinding till para100!!!!
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my advise is, throw your HF and buy dps ring.. get new IK glove/ rare/ craft.. buy gloves w/o ehp stats will cheaper.. your VW very weak... just buy rare shoulder/ craft it..

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Sep 24 2013, 05:53 PM
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post Sep 24 2013, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Sep 24 2013, 05:19 PM)
that means I would need at least 300m for shopping...urgh
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You just need to play auction house 3 for a while.

Low Budget Barb here.
It can be done for under 3 mil. Providing you know what to search and be patient.
Sometimes bidding for the item can turn out to be your lucky day.
Got my skorn for ~~50k thanks to AH bug where the price changes to 0 randomly.

This post has been edited by VinluV: Sep 24 2013, 06:08 PM
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post Sep 24 2013, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Sep 24 2013, 05:52 PM)
my advise is, throw your HF and buy dps ring.. get new IK glove/ rare/ craft.. buy gloves w/o ehp stats will cheaper.. your VW very weak... just buy rare shoulder/ craft it..
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QUOTE(VinluV @ Sep 24 2013, 06:07 PM)
You just need to play auction house 3 for a while.

Low Budget Barb here.
It can be done for under 3 mil. Providing you know what to search and be patient.
Sometimes bidding for the item can turn out to be your lucky day.
Got my skorn for ~~50k thanks to AH bug where the price changes to 0 randomly.
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hm..ok..will do the AH hunting again..need pump strength..hellfire to boost my paragon leveling..hehe
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post Sep 24 2013, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Sep 24 2013, 06:28 PM)
hm..ok..will do the AH hunting again..need pump strength..hellfire to boost my paragon leveling..hehe
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extra dps from rare ring will help u farm higher MPs.. so HF no longer needed..
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post Sep 24 2013, 06:58 PM

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i just crafted a new strength hellfire..

this time got 5.5% critical, 187 strength, 60 all resistance

or should i back to my oculus ring..hmmm

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post Sep 24 2013, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Sep 24 2013, 06:58 PM)
i just crafted a new strength hellfire..

this time got 5.5% critical, 187 strength, 60 all resistance

or should i back to my oculus ring..hmmm
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I choose the hellring over the oculus ring.
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post Sep 26 2013, 10:35 AM

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does SoJ provide efficient farming?

how much Bonus VS Elite consider effective?

i own 1 with 24% bonus and -4 HotA... but seem not really efficient...
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post Sep 26 2013, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(PlayPlayHa @ Sep 26 2013, 10:35 AM)
does SoJ provide efficient farming?

how much Bonus VS Elite consider effective?

i own 1 with 24% bonus and -4 HotA... but seem not really efficient...
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I use -4 HOTA SOJ too. It works well for routine farming and uber boss fight.
Use HOTA on bosses/elites. Use WW on white mobs.
Stand in the pool of plague/molten/desecrator for fury generation when you HOTA the elites.

Tell us more the issue that you faced.
Link your profile so that some suggestions can be given on your build.
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post Sep 26 2013, 12:26 PM

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Below are my current farming build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/CrazePa...47/hero/5949177

Currently using Hellfire ring for leveling only.(although the stat not good)

Problem facing:
1. can't tank Elite on mixed of elemental damage. (required to kite.. sad.gif )
2. can't stand for ONE HIT from monster. (some critical hit might 1 blow me...)
3. Fury generator problem... (currently use Cleave to solve this issue)

hmm i using Battle Cry - BloodShed rune. I found this is quite efficient in clearing large amount of Mobs.
in addition, those news/rumours about nerving -into the fray/permenant WotB bothering me. That's why i choose BloodShed + HotA build.

Solution tried:
-IK full set with Overpower-Momentum ( but this drop my dps/ehp, and i don't have good IK glove..)

Any ideaS?
should i craft Chest Armor to get high Str/Vit/Ar/socket?
what should i craft next?
should i use Ice Climber?
should i regear the Inna Temperance or get some pant with high stat?

please tunjuk ajar!!! master sifuu

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post Sep 26 2013, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(PlayPlayHa @ Sep 26 2013, 12:26 PM)
Below are my current farming build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/CrazePa...47/hero/5949177

Currently using Hellfire ring for leveling only.(although the stat not good)

Problem facing:
1. can't tank Elite on mixed of elemental damage. (required to kite.. sad.gif  )
2. can't stand for ONE HIT from monster. (some critical hit might 1 blow me...)
3. Fury generator problem... (currently use Cleave to solve this issue)

hmm i using Battle Cry - BloodShed rune. I found this is quite efficient in clearing large amount of Mobs.
in addition, those news/rumours about nerving -into the fray/permenant WotB bothering me. That's why i choose BloodShed + HotA build.

Solution tried:
-IK full set with Overpower-Momentum ( but this drop my dps/ehp, and i don't have good IK glove..)

Any ideaS?
should i craft Chest Armor to get high Str/Vit/Ar/socket?
what should i craft next?
should i use Ice Climber?
should i regear the Inna Temperance or get some pant with high stat?

please tunjuk ajar!!! master sifuu
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I never try your build man.. how do you generate enough fury w/o Into the Fray? actually to play HoTA, u need higher EHP to absorb damage from mobs.. less kitting mean more dps biggrin.gif.. U short of vit on Pants, chest, bracer (maybe u use for pickup)..

I'm farming with non-fury generators for months now, and really like it. OK-ish IC with movement speed not cheap, and entry level IC not much different with your current boot. so think before purchase. I'm using different gear setup in EU and US , both work fine for me.

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Sep 26 2013, 01:45 PM
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post Sep 26 2013, 01:29 PM

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barb getting nerf gao gao make me wanna sell je barb gears.. haishhh
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post Sep 26 2013, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Sep 26 2013, 01:29 PM)
barb getting nerf gao gao make me wanna sell je barb gears.. haishhh
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really? I still non stop buying barb gears tongue.gif.. but entry level gears onli la biggrin.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Sep 26 2013, 01:30 PM)
really? I still non stop buying barb gears tongue.gif.. but entry level gears onli la biggrin.gif
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mayb i will sell the weapons kot. ammy i just keep it je lah.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post Sep 26 2013, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Sep 26 2013, 01:33 PM)
mayb i will sell the weapons kot. ammy i just keep it je lah..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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your ammy keep kat barb aku brows.gif
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QUOTE(amiranna @ Sep 26 2013, 02:20 PM)
your ammy keep kat barb aku  brows.gif
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his Stashie can handicap KO all my chars.. notworthy.gif laugh.gif
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post Sep 26 2013, 02:31 PM

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long post incoming.
May want to sticky this on the first or second post, as a guideline for new barbs. Found it helpful when restarting ww barb

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This is, IMO, the optimal setup you should have for pieces, by slot.

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**Helm:**
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* Mempo of Twilight (1 random prop. you want Crit. if no Crit mempo in Budget, dont get one... unless you are 45%+ crit without helm)

* [Immortal King's Triumph] (1 random prop. you will want AR, Vit or Str/Vit. use 170 str as your search pram if its in your budget. if not search for at least 100)

(You COULD roll with an andy's. i wouldn't personally. if you choose to, you want one with a socket, you want less than 7% extra fire damage taken, and you are going to want to make sure you have extra Fire resist on your other pieces to offset.)

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**Amulet:**
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* [Crafted Amulet of Strength] (5 random props,  plus a native 201-230 str roll. An optimal Quadfecta would be Average Damage, Crit chance, Attack Speed, Crit Damage. What you want depends on your setup. if you are dual wielding AS is nice but not as important as when using a 2 hander. Amulet is a good spot to go for pure offense stats.)

* [Blackthorne's Duncraig Cross] (2 random props. you would want Str (or Str/Vit) and Crit chance.

* [Mara's Kaleidoscope] (3 random props. Will want Crit chance, then 2 of the following: str (or Str/Vit), AS, CD, Vit or average damage. mara also rolls a class stat. you'll want Rend, Hota or WW.)

* **Rare Amulet** (up to 6 Props. Strength. and try for as much of the quadfecta  as possible. other good stats are AR, Str/Vit, Vit, Life on Hit, Life% and a Socket.)

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**Shoulders**
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* [Crafted Archon Spaulders of Strength] (5 random props, plus a native 201-230 str roll. Good stats to get on this are Str/vit, Vit, AR, Life% and Pickup Radius)

* [Vile Ward](2 random props. Good Props to get here are Str/vit, Vit, Pickup radius and Life%)

(Shoulders are a good place to get pickup radius. while not directly increasing EHP or DPS, it will make life easier for you. try to get it here.)

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**Chest:**
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* [Immortal King's Eternal Reign] (1 random prop. try to get Str/vit or Life%)

* [Blackthorne's Surcoat] (2 random props. you want Str. other good stats are Str/Vit and Life%)

* [Tyrael's Might* (1 random stat. You either want to choose from Str/vit, Vit, Life% OR look for 3 sockets.)

(Tyrael's has the POTENTIAL to be better than IK for chest slot due to its +elite and +demon damage stats, but it also relies on getting REALLY good pants. the other benefit of Tyrael's is that you are getting your 2nd IMS piece here, and then can get non IMS Boots, or not need to get a Lacuuni or Inna pants.)
- Note why I do not recommend tyrael might, i hunt non demons as well.

(Another good choice for a Chest is a [Crafted Archon Armor of Strength](http://us.battle.net/d3/en/artisan/blacksmith/recipe/archon-armor-of-strength). you'd want AR Str Str/Vit 3 Sockets and either Vit or Life% for it)

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**Gloves:**
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* [Immortal King's Irons](2 random props. Optimally you want Crit Damage and Attack Speed. other good stats (if you cant afford both) are AR, Str/Vit, Vit)

* [Archon Gauntlets of Strength](5 random props, plus a 201-230 Str roll. you want Crit Chance. other good stats are Crit Damage, Attack Speed, All resist, Str/Vit, Vit. Try for as many of the "Trifecta" (AS, CC, CD) as you can.

(i personally put IK gloves over Crafted gloves because the 2 and 3 set bonuses for the IK set are good to have. if you get the Helm, chest and Gloves, you now have the 3 set. Also, the IK gloves come with -damage from Melee, another great stat to have. combined with the 3 set bonus, and the IK helm bonus, you get -13% to -16% melee damage reduction. that adds 65,693 to 80,853 EHP by its self (on my character)

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**Bracers:**
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* [Razorspikes of Strength] (5 random props, plus 201-230 str. you want Crit chance. other good stats Str/Vit. Vit, AR, Pickup Radius, Armor and Reduced damage from Melee or ranged. just make sure your bracers have Crit chance and All resist. rest are above and beyond.

* [Lacuni Prowlers] (3 random props. get Crit chance and Strength. other good stats Str/Vit. Vit, AR, Pickup Radius, Armor and Reduced damage from Melee or ranged.)

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**Belt:**
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* [The Witching Hour] (3 Random Properties. get Strength. Other good stats are Str/vit, Vit, AR, Life% and Pickup Radius)

* [Immortal King's Tribal Binding] (1 random prop. Vit, Str/Vit, Life%, Pickup Radius. Comes with class stat. Rend is a good choice if you don't use a fury generator. otherwise get something matching your chosen fury generator.)

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**Rings**
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* [Unity](1 random property. Attack Speed or Crit Damage. other good stats are Str/vit, Vit, Life% and a Socket)

* [Stone of Jordan] (Zero Random props. SoJ is a weird ring. If you are only farming Non Elite mobs, skip this. Stats you will want on your SOJ are At least 25% elite damage (30 is better), 15 max fury, HoTA or Rend cost reduction OR whirlwind Crit chance. Cold damage is best for its slowing effect, but not absolutely necessary. if using SoJ, Make sure your Weapon(s) are Black Damage.)

* [Skull Grasp] (1 random property. get Crit chance. also comes with a class stat. get HoTA or Rend cost reduction OR whirlwind Crit chance.)

* **Rare Rings** (up to 6 Props. Strength. and try for as much of the "quadfecta" (Average damage, Attack speed, Crit Chance, Crit Damage) as possible. other good stats are AR, Str/Vit, Vit, Life on Hit, Life% and a Socket.

* [Hellfire Ring] (Str plus 4 random props. Same as Rare Rings.)

([Litany of the Undaunted] and [The Wailing Host](http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/the-wailing-host) are also good rings.)

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**Pants:**
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* [Inna's Temperance] * (1 Random property. get Strength.)

* [Blackthorne's Jousting Mail] (2 random properties. get  All Resist and Str/Vit. Another good alternate is Pickup Radius.)

* **Rare Pants** (up to 6 Random stats. Best choices are Str, Vit, Str/Vit, AR, 2 Sockets, Pickup Radius)

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**Boots:**
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* [Ice Climbers] (3 random properties.  get 12% Movement speed. other good stats are Vit, Str/vit and Pickup Radius.)

* [Zunimassa's Trail] (2 random properties. Get Strength. other good stats are Str/Vit, AR, Pickup radius. if using Zuni boots, Make sure your weapon(s) are Black damage.)

* [Immortal King's Stride] (1 random property. Str/Vit or Pickup Radius.)

* **Rare Boots** (up to 6 Random properties. Str, Vit, Str/Vit, AR, 12% Movement speed and Pickup Radius)

(Boots are another great spot to pick up Pickup radius.)

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**1 handed weapons:**
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* **Rare One handed Axe or Mace** (up to 6 random properties. get Crit Damage, Life steal, Socket, and as much DPS as possible. Black weapon damage (Non elemental. if there is colors behind the weapon damage, its Elemental. if it says "+X-Y (element) damage", its elemental. Black weapons will say "+X Minimum Damage" and "+X Maximum damage") other good stats are Str, Vit, Str/vit, Attack Speed, Life on Hit and +Elite damage.)

* [Echoing Fury](2 random properties.  get a Socket and Either Crit Damage or Life steal. Less chance to Fear better, and higher -APS is better.)

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**Two handed Weapons**
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* [Skorn](1 random Prop. get Life Steal)

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**Notes**
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* You will need one of the following: Lacuuni Prowlers, Inna's Temperance or Tyrael's Might, in addition to your Movement speed boots.

* You want to have AT LEAST 450 All resist and at LEAST 40k HP after gear.

* You want to have at least 5.5% Life steal after gear. you can get this from Weapons, Mighty belts and the Bloodthirst talent.

* Other good stats not included in most lists above are Armor, -Melee, Ranged or Elite damage, +elite damage, and Bonus Globe health.

* Try to get at least the IK 2 set. the 3 set is also good. if you get Blackthornes pieces, the 2 set is good, but not necessary.

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**Gems:**
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* Emerald in weapons
* Ruby in rings, Pants, boots, Chest.
* Amethyst in Helm (if you are low on life) or Ruby (for extra leveling speed for Paragon leveling)

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That's it. Enjoy! feel free to comment or Correct me if I've made a mistake! smile.gif
This post has been edited by VinluV: Sep 26 2013, 02:35 PM

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