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and85rew
post Sep 8 2013, 06:01 PM

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one handed weapons...too expensive cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post Sep 9 2013, 10:29 AM

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Your best bet now is to farm demonic essence and make amulets.

Benching against lyn barb:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/IndouKa...1/hero/15026672

and this random barb from a stream,

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Shinobi...4/hero/33529666


can see that they have crit chance and crit damage in almost everything.
amulet, ring, lacuni...

This post has been edited by VinluV: Sep 9 2013, 10:31 AM
Deckard Cain
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Sep 8 2013, 06:01 PM)
one handed weapons...too expensive  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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They are far more cheaper then they were before. If you're talking about EF then of course premium price for premium item
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:25 PM

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VOTA's Health Link/Reflect Damage/Fire Chain or Plague is hell.. especially those spinning ones with Electrifiend...Hell for barb's.. For some reason I don't have problems using monk.. WTH

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post Sep 11 2013, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 10 2013, 01:25 PM)
VOTA's Health Link/Reflect Damage/Fire Chain or Plague is hell.. especially those spinning ones with Electrifiend...Hell for barb's.. For some reason I don't have problems using monk.. WTH
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+ desecrator + molten + vortex + cold.
HOTA/WW/Rend hybrid barb can handle these with ease.
A Rend can restore HP immediately.
For barb, I choose to stand in the pool of desecrator+plague+molten because I gain fury from these elemental attacks. I just HOTA/rend the elites until they died (then I immediately WW to the next target).

Monk is not so easy to stand in the pool of 3-stack desecrator + plague + molten, especially +vortex + cold without serenity.
Unless you have high defensive attributes (i.e. 600AR + 6000Armor) + high LS + burst damage skill (i.e. WoL).

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QUOTE(VinluV @ Sep 9 2013, 10:29 AM)
and85rew

Your best bet now is to farm demonic essence and make amulets.

Benching against lyn barb:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/IndouKa...1/hero/15026672

and this random barb from a stream,

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Shinobi...4/hero/33529666
can see that they have crit chance and crit damage in almost everything. 
amulet, ring, lacuni...
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D3 toons have come to the new height until the release of expansion.
We need to achieve certain level of IAS/CC/CD for some build (i.e. CM Wiz, DH with Manticore etc).
To achieve certain DPS (i.e. 300K+), we almost need to get perfect CC/CD/IAS in most of our gears.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 11 2013, 01:33 PM)
D3 toons have come to the new height until the release of expansion.
We need to achieve certain level of IAS/CC/CD for some build (i.e. CM Wiz, DH with Manticore etc).
To achieve certain DPS (i.e. 300K+), we almost need to get perfect CC/CD/IAS in most of our gears.
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ya noticed the trend recently. amulet has str/vit/cc but no cd.
scrap immediately.


Doing Keyhunting and Damm f***.... Sokahr has dropped 0 keys for me in 5 runs in the oasis.
i've got 6-7 of the key of destruction and terror, but 0 key of hate..

is it that normal of just rotten luck?
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QUOTE(VinluV @ Sep 11 2013, 02:27 PM)
ya noticed the trend recently. amulet has str/vit/cc but no cd.
scrap immediately.
Doing Keyhunting and Damm f***.... Sokahr has dropped 0 keys for me in 5 runs in the oasis.
i've got 6-7 of the key of destruction and terror, but  0 key of hate..

is it that normal of just rotten luck?
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Rotten Luck. It happens on lower mp and even on mp9. The only guaranteed way is mp10. Barb is by far the easiest to encounter Sokahr. Btw, what mp are you running on. Also, CD is a huge stat to not have especially running HOTA build. I think amulet should come with CD because it gives 100% CD stat, you can not have it on rings but personally ammy is a must have. Also, running WW build, there are breakpoints to meet so AS is also very important if your going to run WW with Double Tornados which is at least 2.5BP>
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Sep 11 2013, 03:16 PM)
Rotten Luck. It happens on lower mp and even on mp9. The only guaranteed way is mp10. Barb is by far the easiest to encounter Sokahr. Btw, what mp are you running on. Also, CD is a huge stat to not have especially running HOTA build. I think amulet should come with CD because it gives 100% CD stat, you can not have it on rings but personally ammy is a must have. Also, running WW build, there are breakpoints to meet so AS is also very important if your going to run WW with Double Tornados which is at least 2.5BP>
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Thanks for the advice.

Currently kiting on MP3-4 while waiting to grab some bargain items for skorn build.
Currently getting 46% cd, with the scoundrel.

Trying to craft amulet with CD,CC,STR,VIT

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lol. i gt some Question for Barbs..=="

1. Marquise <-- worth? how to determine which weapon to slot????
(i'm poor guy that not afford to unsocket a marquise)

2. Any ppl playing BloodShed build?? o.O
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/crazepa...zePanda/5949177
(need some advice...)
(No idea why my dual wield unable to generate enough fury...)
(choose to use skorn for powerful smash(able to wait for Overpower-Momentom)

3. Perma HotA (without bash/frenzy/cleave) <-- required -? fury?

4. Echoing fury = fear players away?? :/
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QUOTE(PlayPlayHa @ Sep 17 2013, 01:16 AM)
lol. i gt some Question for Barbs..=="

1. Marquise <-- worth? how to determine which weapon to slot????
(i'm poor guy that not afford to unsocket a marquise)

2. Any ppl playing BloodShed build?? o.O
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/crazepa...zePanda/5949177 
(need some advice...)
(No idea why my dual wield unable to generate enough fury...)
(choose to use skorn for powerful smash(able to wait for Overpower-Momentom)

3. Perma HotA (without bash/frenzy/cleave) <-- required -? fury?

4. Echoing fury = fear players away?? :/
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marquise onky if have alot money. note u cant sell marquise.

never tried bloodshed build before. as u said... sure got fury problems.


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post Sep 17 2013, 08:40 AM

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Bloodshed + HotA clear creep fast oo
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QUOTE(PlayPlayHa @ Sep 17 2013, 01:16 AM)
lol. i gt some Question for Barbs..=="

1. Marquise <-- worth? how to determine which weapon to slot????
(i'm poor guy that not afford to unsocket a marquise)

2. Any ppl playing BloodShed build?? o.O
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/crazepa...zePanda/5949177 
(need some advice...)
(No idea why my dual wield unable to generate enough fury...)
(choose to use skorn for powerful smash(able to wait for Overpower-Momentom)

3. Perma HotA (without bash/frenzy/cleave) <-- required -? fury?

4. Echoing fury = fear players away?? :/
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1. If you "cant afford" to unsocket Marquise, then it not for u yet smile.gif
4. I have no problem with EF fear. DW w/o EF is not easy, need a lot of IAS slots..
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post Sep 17 2013, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(PlayPlayHa @ Sep 17 2013, 01:16 AM)
lol. i gt some Question for Barbs..=="

1. Marquise <-- worth? how to determine which weapon to slot????
(i'm poor guy that not afford to unsocket a marquise)

2. Any ppl playing BloodShed build?? o.O
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/crazepa...zePanda/5949177 
(need some advice...)
(No idea why my dual wield unable to generate enough fury...)
(choose to use skorn for powerful smash(able to wait for Overpower-Momentom)

3. Perma HotA (without bash/frenzy/cleave) <-- required -? fury?

4. Echoing fury = fear players away?? :/
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1. Don't get marquise if you have budget constraint.

2. No for most barbs. Most people use BR/ITF because it is the fury engine.
You didn't use fury engine and therefore you felt like running short of fury.

3. You need fury for sure. You need SoJ HOTA -4/-5. You need to stand on a pool of plague/molten/desecrator. If you have sufficient LS, you can use passive/Superstition.

4. Generally not an issue if you have WW hybrid build. A cold damage SoJ will help too.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Sep 17 2013, 09:06 AM
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post Sep 17 2013, 09:20 AM

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I see.. thanks for advice biggrin.gif

Maybe I should back to WW + HotA build.. :'(

Just feeling like want to try new stuffff
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QUOTE(denkoxx2 @ Sep 16 2013, 06:04 PM)
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Welcome all new and old players alike~ rclxms.gif
Keep gearing up like there's no ROS, keep levelling like there's no tomorrow flex.gif
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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Sep 17 2013, 12:08 PM)
Welcome all new and old players alike~ rclxms.gif
Keep gearing up like there's no ROS, keep levelling like there's no tomorrow flex.gif
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+1.. My hand too itchy, bought new IK Belt and IC (can't wait Loot 2.0) tongue.gif

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