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 Asset Allocation Investing using US ETF, Basic approach to asset Allocation ETF

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rjb123
post Feb 19 2014, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 1 2013, 06:37 AM)
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Public Mutual is highly profitable.  This is one of the reasons that I buy Public Bank stock.  The only stock that I buy for Malaysia.

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Reviving a slightly old thread here smile.gif

I'm looking to do my monthly, regular investments via a selection of ETFs (in this case through TDAM)

Currently these are all comission/fee free so it's not an issue to add in small amounts ($200-300 worth) on a monthly basis, do these normally stay fee free for the long term? As it wouldn't be worth paying purchase charge each time if the amounts are small.
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post Feb 19 2014, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 19 2014, 01:21 AM)
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All ETFs have annual maintenance fee.  You pay for those fee as long as you hold the ETF.  So, check their annual maintenance fee before buying certain ETF.

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I'm aware of the yearly maintenance fee, I meant the fee to purchase the ETF - currently there's quite a few Commission-free , others $9.99. The $9.99 would be too much if just topping up monthly with $100-300 each
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post Feb 19 2014, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 19 2014, 01:54 AM)
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Yes.  $9.99 would be too much.. The commission should less than 1%.  If the commission is $9.99, each purchase should be $1,000 or more..

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Agreed, that's why I was asking if they're likely to remain fee-free for the long term - will have to wait and see I guess.

Topping up less frequently in larger amounts would have to be an option I guess if the purchases don't remain fee free
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post Feb 22 2014, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 22 2014, 05:49 PM)
Mind sharing how you will investing in ETFs? Will you be transferring your funds to TDAM? Any fees charged for that? By TDAM do you mean TD Ameritrade or TD Asset Management?
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I transferred to TD Ameritrade via Maybank from a Maybank USD account.

Transfer charge is $4+$7.65 (USD) and amount that's received is $26 USD less (middle/clearing bank charges) , so a total of $35.65

Both times so far I've done a transfer the funds have arrived quickly - ie. do it in Maybank branch at 4PM, at night time when US opens the funds are in the account.

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post Feb 23 2014, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 23 2014, 01:00 AM)
Wow.. that is a lot. No cheaper way to transfer?
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Apparently you can send a cheque which costs less but can take some weeks to clear.

I haven't done / not planning on doing any transfers less than $10,000 so percentage wise the fee isn't too bad
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post Feb 23 2014, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 23 2014, 01:19 AM)
Can break it down for me, what are the fees they charge?
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As far as I know, Maybank charge $4 for any FCA (Foreign currency account) transaction , the $7.65 then will be the TT charge.

Any payments in foreign currencies always need to go through a middle/clearing bank, who again impose an additional charge (in this case, $26 USD on both occasions)

Not something that can be avoided easily that I know of, if transferring from Malaysia > US


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post Feb 23 2014, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 23 2014, 01:37 AM)
sad.gif That sucks. So, what does your portfolio look like? Mind sharing?
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Not much to share so far - far from complete smile.gif A mix of US large/mid/small cap, emerging markets, Europe, Gold/REITs

This is for my retirement at 60-65 so I'm slowly building it up over the next years then contribute a set amount per month from then onwards

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 23 2014, 02:09 AM)
What's your weightage? That's what I'm most interested in.

So, $10,000 every month? Wow...  notworthy.gif I am talking with a sifu.
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Around 30% Bonds / 70% Equity I'll give you a more detailed breakdown tomorrow of the allocation but it will likely change over the years.

I'm only transferring in batches of $10K, not investing this amount monthly! (I wish icon_idea.gif )

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post Feb 23 2014, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 23 2014, 02:41 AM)
Hahaha, I see I see. That way you get to take advantage of cost averaging la. Looking forward to a more detailed breakdown.

I'm only about to begin my career, when you say the transfer fee is so high.. really depressing for me.
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Yes, if you transfer small amounts (say $1K) the fee is a bit too much, on $10k it is reasonable.

BTW, I tried to do the initial funding from a USD account based in IOM and the payment was rejected which cost $44 - waste of money considering it didn't achieve anything.

Here's a screenshot from TDAM Portfolio planner to give an idea of where things should be once complete :

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It'll take a while to reach as I'll be buying on a monthly basis. Even if it takes a year it isn't such a huge deal as I'm planning to save this portfolio for my retirement (at least 28 years ohmy.gif ) plus TDAM isn't the only portfolio - others I've had for a while longer.

QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 23 2014, 07:56 AM)
rjb123,

But, comparing how much you will be paying for UT in Malaysia, this is a bargain.

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Agreed, in the long run the 0.3765% transfer charges each time are not much compared to the savings on management fees.

Actually originally I was planning to buy Europe based ETFs / Funds through TD Direct (the European part) but their charges are crazy. ETF trading charge is 28 EUR, and it actually goes up based on the value of the trade. There may be a tax advantage compared to US though , I need to research that in a bit more detail

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post Feb 23 2014, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 23 2014, 05:25 PM)
Very great info, thanks for sharing.

So, almost equal weightage for Domestic and International Equity, but more emphasis on Domestic Fixed Income. Interesting, why the difference in weightage?

Do you mind me asking how old are you? What you're doing and how much you earn per year? I'd like to have an idea of when I can start investing in ETFs.
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Actually I'm planning on buying additional bond/fixed income denominated in EUR , not through US broker. And already hold some others through broker in Malaysia

I'm 27 - started investing in a few funds back in 2007/8 (lump sum just before the big drop due to the financial crisis rclxms.gif ) I work in sales/purchasing and just take a commission so as such my salary is unstable and fluctuates a lot ..s so its important for me to save for future/retirement

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 23 2014, 06:26 PM)
Do you live a minimalistic lifestyle? $10,000 by age 27, quite impressive.
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Depends what you call minimalistic ... expenses are higher than they could be but I don't buy any luxury goods, don't drive a car etc.

Anyway, going a bit off topic here
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 24 2014, 03:26 AM)
Haha, just want to get an idea of how to save that much money.

So, no gold/precious metals? So, while you are saving up, where do you park your cash?
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Part of the "speciality" is in Gold shares

Savings .. my emergency fund is in FD smile.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 24 2014, 06:22 PM)
Oh yeah, what does the "Specialty" represent, besides gold?

rjb, the $36.65 includes the forex spread between market rate and the bank's rate, right?
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Gold + REITs

The $36.65 is the transfer charge only, I'm holding USD in Maybank so no currency conversation is taking place.


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QUOTE(khchong81 @ Feb 24 2014, 06:17 PM)
Hi guys, great thread here. Recently i just open Plus 500 trading account. Is it trustable platform? I realise their service charge is on the high side, any other platform that i can use to buy US ETF?
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As John mentioned - I'm using TD Ameritrade which offers 500 free trades (not sure when they expire, I think 60 days from account opening) and a selection of commission free ETFs, others have a $9.99 dealing charge.
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QUOTE(khchong81 @ Feb 24 2014, 09:55 PM)
I can wire the money into the account through bank in malaysia or by using credit card just like Plus 500 account?
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Transfer from a bank account only.


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 24 2014, 10:27 PM)
What REITs do you invest in? This is a point of contention for me because I'm not sure if one should invest in a global REIT or a US one or a local one.

So, do you lose money compared to the market rate when you buy USD? That means, you have to open a forex account and there would be more charges, right?
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 24 2014, 10:29 PM)
But is T/T less expensive?
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Currently VNQ (US)

TT / Wire all the same , no difference.

I'm getting my income in USD so I don't need to do any MYR to USD conversion

There isn't any charge for having a FCA account with Maybank, just $1000 USD initial deposit , and $4 per transaction (local, more for overseas)
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Feb 24 2014, 11:33 PM)
Again, thanks for the info, very helpful.  thumbup.gif

Do you mind me asking what it is you sell?

So, US REITs. Any particular reason why you don't diversify to international REITs?

Your portfolio, is it mostly made up of passive funds or Vanguard's actively managed funds (don't follow an index)?
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Anything related to phones (mostly parts, accessories)

No particular reason , will look at some EUR denominated ones , prefer to buy those in EUR

Mostly passive
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QUOTE(sonicbull @ Mar 1 2014, 03:24 PM)
How much min money is needed to purchase vanguard etf thru AMTD?
I read in vanguard website, usd10k is the minimum?
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Minimum purchase is 1 share / ETF, so it depends on the price.

Initial deposit with TDAM I think is $2K, not 100% sure - read that elsewhere
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QUOTE(MNet @ Mar 2 2014, 06:34 PM)
ProShares Ultra Health Care ok?
5-Year +48.26%
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/RXL:US
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I'm holding sole XLV

This RXL is 200% leveraged ..
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My portfolio using US ETFs is still in progress, doing OK so far.

Should reach my target allocation in the next few months smile.gif

Although added a few other sectors ... Russia/Thailand/Vietnam to diversify a bit smile.gif

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