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 Asset Allocation Investing using US ETF, Basic approach to asset Allocation ETF

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post Jul 21 2014, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Jun 24 2014, 12:52 AM)
FYI, from my TDAM account (the cash balance)
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Hi rjb123, Since you have opened a TD Ameritrade Account as non us resident, do they provide you the TD Ameritrade Visa Debit Card?

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post Jul 21 2014, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(kenji_lin @ Jul 21 2014, 03:02 PM)
Hi rjb123, Since you have opened a TD Ameritrade Account as non us resident, do they provide you the TD Ameritrade Visa Debit Card?

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I tried, but that's only for US residents I believe. Didn't need it anyway, already have a USD debit card which I've never used
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post Jul 22 2014, 08:46 PM

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Folks,

Somebody want to a dumped down simplified step to this approach.

1) Save 3 to 6 months of expenses as Emergency Fund.

2) Save at least USD $2,000

3) Use the USD $2,000 to open an US Brokerage A/C

4) Use USD $1,000 to buy BND and USD $1,000 to buy VT. We are using 50/50 ratio

5) Save USD $2,000.

6) Transfer the money to US brokerage A/C.

7) Use the USD $2,000 to buy BND and VT. Buy them at different amount so that they stay at 50/50.

For example, if BND worth $250 and VT worth 750, use the new $2,000 to buy $1,250 of BND and $750 of VT. You will ended up with $1,500 of BND and $1,500 of VT.

8) Go back to (5)

You can continue this forever. After your portfolio reach USD $10K, you may want to do annual re-balancing. That means you sell either sell BND to buy VT or sell VT to buy BND. Basically, you sell whoever is more than 50% of your portfoli to buy whoever is less than 50% of your portfolio. To save cost, if the difference is less than 2K, do nothing.

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 22 2014, 08:46 PM)
Folks,

Somebody want to a dumped down simplified step to this approach.

1) Save 3 to 6 months of expenses as Emergency Fund.

2) Save at least USD $2,000

3) Use the USD $2,000 to open an US Brokerage A/C

4) Use USD $1,000 to buy BND and USD $1,000 to buy VT.  We are using 50/50 ratio

5) Save USD $2,000.

6) Transfer the money to US brokerage A/C.

7) Use the USD $2,000 to buy BND and VT.  Buy them at different amount so that they stay at 50/50.

    For example, if BND worth $250 and VT worth 750, use the new $2,000 to buy $1,250 of BND and $750 of VT.  You will ended up with $1,500 of BND and $1,500 of VT.

8) Go back to (5)

You can continue this forever.  After your portfolio reach USD $10K, you may want to do annual re-balancing.  That means you sell either sell BND to buy VT or sell VT to buy BND.  Basically, you sell whoever is more  than 50% of your portfoli to buy whoever is less  than 50% of your portfolio.  To save cost, if the difference is less than 2K, do nothing.

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Now, i think we need at least 1 year, no?
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post Jul 23 2014, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(endau02 @ Jul 23 2014, 12:45 PM)
Now, i think we need at least 1 year, no?
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endau02,

1) Probably, yes since the inflation rate between now and end of the next year will be very high.

2) Probably prudent for people to keep some of their emergency in Singapore or foreign A/C

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post Jul 27 2014, 01:34 PM

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how US brokerage work?

let take Vanguard Total Bond Market ETF @ USD82.17

if the brokerage is $0.01 commision per share, so I buy 10 share BND
Note: Note min brokerage fee is USD 0.01

USD82.17 x 100 =USD 821.70

Total cost + commision = USD 821.70 + $0.10 = USD 821.80 ?

Am I correct? Is there any other fee from gov?
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 27 2014, 01:34 PM)
how US brokerage work?

let take Vanguard Total Bond Market ETF @ USD82.17

if the brokerage is $0.01 commision per share, so I buy 10 share BND
Note: Note min brokerage fee is USD 0.01

USD82.17 x 100 =USD 821.70

Total cost + commision = USD 821.70 + $0.10 = USD 821.80 ?

Am I correct? Is there any other fee from gov?
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MNet,

Most US brokerage charge a fixed price per trade (buy or sell) up to 5,000 shares. There is no other fee. For example, if TDAM charge $10 per trade, the total cost will be 10 x $82.17+ $10 = $831.70

To minimize the cost, each trade should be around USD $1,000 or higher.

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i'm using placetrade min $1.5

http://www.us.placetrade.com/index.php/low...ommissions-fees
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post Jul 28 2014, 01:22 PM

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At TD Ameritrade, which account did you guys chose? Joint tenant WROS (with rights of survivorship) or Traditional IRA?
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 28 2014, 01:22 PM)
At TD Ameritrade, which account did you guys chose? Joint tenant WROS (with rights of  survivorship) or Traditional IRA?
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IRA is for US citizen bro

why u chose TD ah?
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 28 2014, 03:06 PM)
IRA is for US citizen bro

why u chose TD ah?
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I am new to all this. Trying find out how to open a US account to buy ETF.

TD was mentioned by dreamer the TS , low maintenance fees suit me fine.

When i entered the TD website to open the account, i was stucked when asked about which account
to choose. Option for individual - i think joint account would suit me.
Then there is option for a retirement account - save for retirement 10 years later is my aim.


I didnt know IRA only for US citizen,
For working malaysian paying 26% income tax here, which account would u recommend?

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 28 2014, 09:23 PM)
I  am new to all this. Trying find out how to open a US account to buy ETF.

TD was mentioned by dreamer the TS , low maintenance fees suit me fine.

When i entered the TD website to open the account, i was stucked when asked about which account
to choose.  Option for individual - i think joint account would suit me.
Then there is option for a retirement account  - save for retirement 10 years later is my aim.
I didnt know  IRA only for US citizen,
For working malaysian paying 26% income tax here, which account would u recommend?
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Let take Vanguard FTSE All Wd Ex US Small Cap ETF @ $110.28/share

I would suggest

1. If u trade less that 1000 unit of share go for PlaceTrade as commission is $0.01/share with minumum $1.5
http://www.us.placetrade.com/index.php/low...ommissions-fees

2. merrilledge if trade more than 1000 unit of share
http://www.merrilledge.com/why-merrill-edg...pagenav=pricing
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post Jul 28 2014, 09:55 PM

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for those investing in foreign shares, arent the TT fees prohibitive, ie eat up quite a big % of your trading value?


QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 28 2014, 09:32 PM)
Let take Vanguard FTSE All Wd Ex US Small Cap ETF @ $110.28/share

I would suggest

1. If u trade less that 1000 unit of share go for PlaceTrade as commission is $0.01/share with minumum $1.5
http://www.us.placetrade.com/index.php/low...ommissions-fees

2. merrilledge if trade more than 1000 unit of share
http://www.merrilledge.com/why-merrill-edg...pagenav=pricing
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post Jul 29 2014, 03:27 AM

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BTW, TD has commission free trades on many ETFs - no fees for buying, only a "fine" if holding for less than a certain amount of time (2/3 months? I'm not sure)

TT fee isn't much. Say overall, it may cost $50 USD as most for a transfer - if you transfer $1000 that's $50 (5%), if you transfer $10000 that's 0.5%, if $20000 that's 0.25%.

So far if I transferred in - either $10K or $20k, the % of TT fees is less than the SC I'd pay if I was buying funds in Malaysia

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 28 2014, 09:23 PM)
I  am new to all this. Trying find out how to open a US account to buy ETF.

TD was mentioned by dreamer the TS , low maintenance fees suit me fine.

When i entered the TD website to open the account, i was stucked when asked about which account
to choose.  Option for individual - i think joint account would suit me.
Then there is option for a retirement account  - save for retirement 10 years later is my aim.
I didnt know  IRA only for US citizen,
For working malaysian paying 26% income tax here, which account would u recommend?
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Just choose the standard account type, that'll do just fine smile.gif

The IRA / 401K stuff is just for US citizens, not foreigners
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 22 2014, 08:46 PM)
Folks,

Somebody want to a dumped down simplified step to this approach.

1) Save 3 to 6 months of expenses as Emergency Fund.

2) Save at least USD $2,000

3) Use the USD $2,000 to open an US Brokerage A/C

4) Use USD $1,000 to buy BND and USD $1,000 to buy VT.  We are using 50/50 ratio

5) Save USD $2,000.

6) Transfer the money to US brokerage A/C.

7) Use the USD $2,000 to buy BND and VT.  Buy them at different amount so that they stay at 50/50.

    For example, if BND worth $250 and VT worth 750, use the new $2,000 to buy $1,250 of BND and $750 of VT.  You will ended up with $1,500 of BND and $1,500 of VT.

8) Go back to (5)

You can continue this forever.  After your portfolio reach USD $10K, you may want to do annual re-balancing.  That means you sell either sell BND to buy VT or sell VT to buy BND.  Basically, you sell whoever is more  than 50% of your portfoli to buy whoever is less  than 50% of your portfolio.  To save cost, if the difference is less than 2K, do nothing.

Dreamer
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Thanks Dreamer. I read the entire thread and this step by step guide is helpful. Now I gotta read more background material before moving forward.

I have a question (which I didn't find in earlier posts) - what is the generally recommended percentage of total investment portfolio to be dedicated to ETFs?

I'm making baby steps in investing - 70% of my money is in PNB fixed rate funds, 30% in local FDs. I don't have sufficient knowledge of the stock market right now to enter there, and property seems costly to enter and relatively hard to get out of. Thus the reason for my interest in ETFs.
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20k in RM? I thought max we can TT per day is 10k?


QUOTE(rjb123 @ Jul 29 2014, 03:27 AM)
BTW, TD has commission free trades on many ETFs - no fees for buying, only a "fine" if holding for less than a certain amount of time (2/3 months? I'm not sure)

TT fee isn't much. Say overall, it may cost $50 USD as most for a transfer - if you transfer $1000 that's $50 (5%), if you transfer $10000 that's 0.5%, if $20000 that's 0.25%.

So far if I transferred in - either $10K or $20k, the % of TT fees is less than the SC I'd pay if I was buying funds in Malaysia
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jul 29 2014, 08:21 AM)
20k in RM? I thought max we can TT per day is 10k?
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online max RM10K /day
at counter until RM50K then they may ask some Qs

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TT from counter, outbound fees also RM10?

QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 29 2014, 08:32 AM)
online max RM10K /day
at counter until RM50K then they may ask some Qs
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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Jul 29 2014, 04:06 AM)
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I'm making baby steps in investing - 70% of my money is in PNB fixed rate funds, 30% in local FDs. I don't have sufficient knowledge of the stock market right now to enter there, and property seems costly to enter and relatively hard to get out of. Thus the reason for my interest in ETFs.
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langstrasse,

90+% of my investment is in this. But, since I am US resident, I invest on mutual fund directly instead of ETF.

<<70% of my money is in PNB fixed rate funds, >>

You have too much money tied up in a single country.

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