Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

5 Pages « < 2 3 4 5 >Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Radeon 9600 PRO Overclocking, A big problem...

views
     
newbieockids
post May 21 2006, 08:49 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,405 posts

Joined: Jun 2005



QUOTE(colinwong89 @ May 21 2006, 01:27 PM)
Wow, that's a great score. Is that RAM at your overclocking program at DDR speed or at normal speed?
*
normal.. 648 DDR effective..

Shah81
post May 21 2006, 09:02 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
480 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ May 20 2006, 01:07 AM)
Yeah, I got my voltmods from that. The Gecube GPU voltmod works with my card, but I can't find any IC that's related to controlling the Vmem.
*
most Gecube cards use voltage dividers to determine the ram voltages...click my siggy.... icon_idea.gif

btw...i got 48XX pts in 3dmark03 with my Gecube 9550GT 600/290 with ultra tight timing. i drop most of the timing to the lowest settings that rabit allowed.... sweat.gif

here's my timing:

user posted image

This post has been edited by Shah81: May 21 2006, 09:08 PM
paan
post May 21 2006, 09:15 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
428 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: bt caves - selayang - kota damansara - subang
my last 2 years benchie...the highest i can get...then after few months receive artifacts...aaaii... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif i use coolviva cooling....n dna driver...
user posted image

until now still using r96pro...maybe after final exam...will try push again....

This post has been edited by paan: May 21 2006, 09:15 PM
TSCompelica
post May 21 2006, 10:05 PM

dozing off. zzz.
******
Senior Member
1,463 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Subang Jaya



QUOTE(newbieockids @ May 21 2006, 08:49 PM)
normal.. 648 DDR effective..
*
Wow... that's real sweet. I got mine cheap, but I found out it only runs at DDR400 effective. sad.gif

QUOTE(Shah81 @ May 21 2006, 09:02 PM)
most Gecube cards use voltage dividers to determine the ram voltages...click my siggy.... icon_idea.gif



btw...i got 48XX pts in 3dmark03 with my Gecube 9550GT 600/290 with ultra tight timing. i drop most of the timing to the lowest settings that rabit allowed.... sweat.gif

here's my timing:

user posted image
*
Is your video card using BGAs or TSOPs? Based on your speed and timings, most probably it must be BGA. smile.gif

What's the AGP Booster mod for? Any differences after the mod? wink.gif I'll check out your guide and see if it's compatible with my card. The big problem is, my card doesn't use the reference design, nor it uses the higher-end Gecube design which everyone commonly uses. Example, my card only has one voltage controller for the memory and GPU.
QUOTE(paan @ May 21 2006, 09:15 PM)
my last 2 years benchie...the highest i can get...then after few months receive artifacts...aaaii... cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif i use coolviva cooling....n dna driver...
user posted image

until now still using r96pro...maybe after final exam...will try push again....
*
Hmm... everyone seems to use the unofficial DNA drivers. I thought they were only good for benchmarking. Might want to try that later. biggrin.gif
TSCompelica
post May 21 2006, 10:24 PM

dozing off. zzz.
******
Senior Member
1,463 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Subang Jaya



Shah81,

You said that you tried different BIOSes for your 9550GT card. Doesn't the memory brand have to match with the BIOS together? Just a question. smile.gif

My video card pics:

user posted image

user posted image
Shah81
post May 21 2006, 10:26 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
480 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ May 21 2006, 10:05 PM)
Is your video card using BGAs or TSOPs? Based on your speed and timings, most probably it must be BGA. smile.gif
my ram is TSOP and with that timing at 290MHz i need to pump 2.75V to the ram to keep the tight timing. with slower timing, 290MHz can be achived at 2.6V.

QUOTE(colinwong89 @ May 21 2006, 10:05 PM)
What's the AGP Booster mod for? Any differences after the mod?  wink.gif
this mod is done to give more current to your AGP slot for graphic cards that dont have their own dedicated power connectors like the 9600XT does. my GPU is running at 1.6V to get to 600MHz. before the mods, anything above 1.5V will not be stable....the 3.3V reading on my AGP slot will droop alot. now my AGP voltage is 0.01V lower than my PSU 3.3V rails and i can use 1.6V on my GPU.


give me a high res picture of your card both front and back and i'll try to help you with the mods.
Shah81
post May 21 2006, 10:35 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
480 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur
oh ok...so you upload your pic already...

the circle 1 & 2 are the possible location for your Vmem. one of them will be your Vddq. so what i need you to do is that a close-up picture of those circles. make sure you use a good camera...i need to see the connections and if possible the markings on those components. (use hig res...3mp and up and oh, use thumbnail.. icon_idea.gif )

user posted image

user posted image

This post has been edited by Shah81: May 21 2006, 10:36 PM
TSCompelica
post May 21 2006, 10:53 PM

dozing off. zzz.
******
Senior Member
1,463 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Subang Jaya



Got the pictures. Hope it's clear enough.

user posted image user posted image
Shah81
post May 21 2006, 11:06 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
480 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur
ok before i start anything.....do you have a multimeter?? because if you dont have one i wont help..sorry icon_idea.gif
TSCompelica
post May 21 2006, 11:19 PM

dozing off. zzz.
******
Senior Member
1,463 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Subang Jaya



QUOTE(Shah81 @ May 21 2006, 11:06 PM)
ok before i start anything.....do you have a multimeter?? because if you dont have one i wont help..sorry icon_idea.gif
*
Unfortunately, I don't have one right now... I could get it from my friend, but I can't do it by tonight... only by next week.

Thanks loads Shah81, it's seriously very helpful of you. I only want a temporary mod, because I'm not very good in soldering, and I can't find the necessary components (eg. pots).

Once again, thanks. notworthy.gif


Shah81
post May 21 2006, 11:23 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
480 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur
so you wanna do the mod or not??.... i thought you're good with soldering. your siggy looks impressive with VDD Mod + Vdimm Mod + Vcore Fluctuation Fix. sweat.gif

btw....the multimeter will be used later. not tonight laugh.gif

This post has been edited by Shah81: May 21 2006, 11:24 PM
TSCompelica
post May 21 2006, 11:27 PM

dozing off. zzz.
******
Senior Member
1,463 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Subang Jaya



QUOTE(Shah81 @ May 21 2006, 11:23 PM)
so you wanna do the mod or not??.... i thought you're good with soldering. your siggy looks impressive with VDD Mod + Vdimm Mod + Vcore Fluctuation Fix. sweat.gif

btw....the multimeter will be used later. not tonight laugh.gif
*
I'm all for it. Only the problem is, finding the right parts for the mod might be quite hard for me, and I'm also afraid that I have to trouble you.

About the soldering part, let's just say that my soldering skills are not as good as yours. smile.gif
Shah81
post May 21 2006, 11:33 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
480 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur
no problem for me...this mod is simple. i figured it out already. now only need a multimeter and pot to make it work thumbup.gif

the parts you can buy from any electronics shop. nothing fancy....normal pot should work just fine.

oh...btw...have you find the point where to measure your Vgpu. if not i can show you where it is icon_idea.gif
TSCompelica
post May 21 2006, 11:37 PM

dozing off. zzz.
******
Senior Member
1,463 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Subang Jaya



QUOTE(Shah81 @ May 21 2006, 11:33 PM)
no problem for me...this mod is simple. i figured it out already. now only need a multimeter and pot to make it work thumbup.gif

the parts you can buy from any electronics shop. nothing fancy....normal pot should work just fine.

oh...btw...have you find the point where to measure your Vgpu. if not i can show you where it is icon_idea.gif
*
By all means, please show me. smile.gif

I recently did the GPU pencil vmod based on Adrian's Rojakpot website, and it worked. The only problem is now that I don't know how much voltage is going to my core (I just penciled the IC according to the guide).

One thing I realised, when I penciled more on the voltage controller, it seemed that my memory overclocking went slightly higher. Any ideas on this? Perhaps it's linked together?

Pardon me if there's any noobish questions. I'm not very familiar with electronics... sweat.gif

This post has been edited by colinwong89: May 21 2006, 11:39 PM
Shah81
post May 21 2006, 11:46 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
480 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur
ok in the box no.2, there will be two soldering point. you can measure the voltage at any of these point. if you're on stock cooling, i suggest you stay below 1.5V.

user posted image

this is normal....it got nothing to do with gpu voltage but more related to your gpu speed. sometime higher gpu will result in a lower mem speed and vice versa. u just have to find the best combo of gpu vs mem speed.
for 9600, i suggest you max out your mem speed first and then work your gpu.

TSCompelica
post May 21 2006, 11:56 PM

dozing off. zzz.
******
Senior Member
1,463 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Subang Jaya



QUOTE(Shah81 @ May 21 2006, 11:46 PM)
ok in the box no.2, there will be two soldering point. you can measure the voltage at any of these point. if you're on stock cooling, i suggest you stay below 1.5V.

user posted image

this is normal....it got nothing to do with gpu voltage but more related to your gpu speed. sometime higher gpu will result in a lower mem speed and vice versa. u just have to find the best combo of gpu vs mem speed.
for 9600, i suggest you max out your mem speed first and then work your gpu.
*
Okay, I'll check it once I get a multimeter. wink.gif

I'm not really running on stock cooling, more like modified stock cooling. Used Arctic Silver, lapped the heatsink to 2000grit and replaced the stock fan with a better Sunon 40mmx40mm fan.

Will be getting a few heatsinks for the TSOPs by this week too, if possible.

Is it required to sink the MOSFETs too? The only four I see is the three at the front and the single one at the back.
TSCompelica
post May 22 2006, 12:03 AM

dozing off. zzz.
******
Senior Member
1,463 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Subang Jaya



Double posted.

This post has been edited by colinwong89: May 22 2006, 12:18 AM
Shah81
post May 22 2006, 12:07 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
480 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ May 21 2006, 11:56 PM)
Okay, I'll check it once I get a multimeter. wink.gif

I'm not really running on stock cooling, more like modified stock cooling. Used Arctic Silver, lapped the heatsink to 2000grit and replaced the stock fan with a better Sunon 40mmx40mm fan.

Will be getting a few heatsinks for the TSOPs by this week too, if possible.

Is it required to sink the MOSFETs too? The only four I see is the three at the front and the single one at the back.
*
heatsink for the TSOP..yes and a must when voltmodding.
heatsink for the MOSFET...optional. they dont really get hot on my card even after voltmod.

you can cut up a large heatsink to be used on your rams. report here once you got a multimeter. i'll give instructions on how to voltmod your vmem. hopefully i can come up with a pencil mod. smile.gif

cheap copper ram sink HERE

This post has been edited by Shah81: May 22 2006, 12:18 AM
TSCompelica
post May 22 2006, 12:21 AM

dozing off. zzz.
******
Senior Member
1,463 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Subang Jaya



QUOTE(Shah81 @ May 22 2006, 12:07 AM)
heatsink for the TSOP..yes and a must when voltmodding.
heatsink for the MOSFET...optional. they dont really get hot on my card even after voltmod.

you can cut up a large heatsink to be used on your rams. report here once you got a multimeter. i'll give instructions on how to voltmod your vmem. hopefully i can come up with a pencil mod. smile.gif
*
Alright, I got it. Anything else I need to get besides the multimeter?

As for the heatsinks, I don't have any professional tools, and all the heatsinks have a seriously thick base, so I don't think my cheapskate tools would do the job. smile.gif

I'll get the heatsinks from uglyvamp soon. smile.gif

uzairi
post May 22 2006, 05:33 PM

Team almostthere
*******
Senior Member
6,744 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: World Wide Web Status: Banned



QUOTE(colinwong89 @ May 21 2006, 11:37 PM)
One thing I realised, when I penciled more on the voltage controller, it seemed that my memory overclocking went slightly higher. Any ideas on this? Perhaps it's linked together?
sweat.gif
*
QUOTE(Shah81 @ May 21 2006, 11:46 PM)
this is normal....it got nothing to do with gpu voltage but more related to your gpu speed. sometime higher gpu will result in a lower mem speed and vice versa. u just have to find the best combo of gpu vs mem speed.
for 9600, i suggest you max out your mem speed first and then work your gpu.
*
What he mean was, when he penciled the gpu voltage controller the mem speed can go higher. Not that that increasing the gpu core would result in lower mem clock.

This is normal when u give more voltage to the gpu, slightly higher mem speed can be achieved. thumbup.gif

5 Pages « < 2 3 4 5 >Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0212sec    0.41    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 27th November 2025 - 10:52 PM