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post Jun 22 2013, 10:12 PM

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Jan Ullrich finally admits to using ‘treatment,’ says it was to level playing field

that's like saying i fap because i don't have a girlfriend yet... (which is true in many cases) but a piss poor excuse..
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post Jun 22 2013, 10:33 PM

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He should be striped off his Olympic Gold and Silver Medals...no?
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post Jun 22 2013, 10:39 PM

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i think they have already done so...
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post Jun 22 2013, 10:40 PM

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it jus shows that doping is the in thing in the late 90's and early 2000's
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post Jun 22 2013, 10:41 PM

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like how tenga and fleshlights is in the early 2010's
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post Jun 22 2013, 10:42 PM

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i think with the power of my tenga ambassador-ship

i will ask tenga to make a licensed version of the camelbak podium tenga onacup
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post Jun 22 2013, 10:56 PM

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Of course! Must have Hitomi's signature V-sign photo over it!

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post Jun 22 2013, 11:04 PM

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With the haze going on...is it ill advice to cycle outdoors?
Just got back into doing some cycling, and now the haze index is escalating.

At what index level we could still tolerate some cycling?
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post Jun 23 2013, 12:06 AM

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Should I get the shamal ultra for rm3699?? Or go aero?
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post Jun 23 2013, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 22 2013, 11:04 PM)
With the haze going on...is it ill advice to cycle outdoors?
Just got back into doing some cycling, and now the haze index is escalating.

At what index level we could still tolerate some cycling?
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as long as the air is not good... it is not advisable, but each person has different tolerance... i went out evening today and i guess for me it is still manageable

at it's worst... i think u will know it when you start to feel like your throat itches and dry... i think tats a good time to call for a stop
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post Jun 23 2013, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(joyformidable @ Jun 23 2013, 12:06 AM)
Should I get the shamal ultra for rm3699?? Or go aero?
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u on campy, u sure tat price includea the shimano freewheel conversion

might as well jus buy racing zero for slightly lesser

the question of climbing and aero is a question u ask urself.. it depends on what you ride more
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post Jun 23 2013, 04:37 AM

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had asked at ngee cycle,pedalsport,GH cycle and kh cycle seen like no one of them have the sram red with bb30 version...some of them are supplier to lbs in melaka so same they cant get the bb30 version...did any penang bike shop take in sram product?
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post Jun 23 2013, 08:20 AM

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i think they sold out waiting for the new shipment that is supposed to come end of july
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post Jun 23 2013, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 23 2013, 02:32 AM)
u on campy, u sure tat price includea the shimano freewheel conversion

might as well jus buy racing zero for slightly lesser

the question of climbing and aero is a question u ask urself.. it depends on what you ride more
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If like me, cannot decide on either, i will then add a 3rd question!

Now if you add style in to the equation, the question don't seems to be a too difficult one now, when to climb or to aero question are in a stalemate position, with neither a decision over the other- perfectly poised and balanced, neither budging an inch like a can of Redbull drink, ......therefore to defuse the situation, rammed at the indecision, at 90 degrees with the 'Style' requirement... Bang!!, and there you go, end results- a carbon stylish all rounder pops up! tongue.gif rclxms.gif

So according to the law of nature, It is so much easier to handles a 3 legged stool then a two legged ones. blush.gif
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post Jun 23 2013, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 23 2013, 08:25 AM)
If like me, cannot decide on either, i will then add a 3rd question!

Now if you add style in to the equation, the question don't seems to be a too difficult one now, when to climb or to aero question are in a stalemate position, with neither a decision over the other- perfectly poised and balanced, neither budging an inch like  a can of Redbull drink, ......therefore to defuse the situation, rammed at the indecision, at 90 degrees with the 'Style' requirement... Bang!!, and there you go, end results- a carbon stylish all rounder pops up! tongue.gif  rclxms.gif

So according to the law of nature, It is so much easier to handles a 3 legged stool then a two legged ones.  blush.gif
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jesus mang, u be right!!! fakken aero y'all!!
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post Jun 23 2013, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 23 2013, 02:32 AM)
u on campy, u sure tat price includea the shimano freewheel conversion

might as well jus buy racing zero for slightly lesser

the question of climbing and aero is a question u ask urself.. it depends on what you ride more
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here where i study in indonesia racing zero are more expensive, and yeah that already include the shimano freewheel conversion, i climb alot and the sometimes got crosswind my non aero tyres already feel like getting pushed to the side LOL
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post Jun 23 2013, 11:36 AM

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hi guys

From running now into cycling now. Any idea where can get a good road bike for entry level? Budget about 2.5k only?

Thanks smile.gif

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post Jun 23 2013, 12:34 PM

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BH, looking at the TDF with interest, exciting prospect with different winners from the flat sprint, uphill sprint finish, summit Finnish that will throw out many sets of winners. Not neglecting the GC guys..but it has puzzle me for quite a bit now, cyclist like Nibali is not in the fray this time, but I should think that he is a better GC guy than JF. And given that the TDF is the most prestigious of all the Grand tour and Nibali was at his devastating best in the Giro. Can't he prepare for the TDf too and give his rival Alberto, Froomey or Rodrigues some Italian "chops"?
Like in Boxing, we have the WBC,WBA,WBF and whatnot, it seems that there is an unwritten rule that the unification bout whose chances are far too remote than your hypothetically possible world record attempt of 500 bouts with your Hitomi signatured Tenga at one go!

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post Jun 23 2013, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 23 2013, 08:25 AM)
If like me, cannot decide on either, i will then add a 3rd question!

Now if you add style in to the equation, the question don't seems to be a too difficult one now, when to climb or to aero question are in a stalemate position, with neither a decision over the other- perfectly poised and balanced, neither budging an inch like  a can of Redbull drink, ......therefore to defuse the situation, rammed at the indecision, at 90 degrees with the 'Style' requirement... Bang!!, and there you go, end results- a carbon stylish all rounder pops up! tongue.gif  rclxms.gif

So according to the law of nature, It is so much easier to handles a 3 legged stool then a two legged ones.  blush.gif
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dun make this shit anymore complicated than it is... if it is purely for style... then it is an easy equation..

1) bring bike
2) go shop
3) try to mount wheel up
4) if it gives you as james may calls it "the fizz", lay down the money
5) done deal

form vs functionality

you can't have a mercedez benz for the price of a honda and still drinks petrol only like a kancil... never gonna happen in this universe...

pick 2 out of 3 is the best you can get...

QUOTE(joyformidable @ Jun 23 2013, 09:25 AM)
here where i study in indonesia racing zero are more expensive, and yeah that already include the shimano freewheel conversion, i climb alot and the sometimes got crosswind my non aero tyres already feel like getting pushed to the side LOL
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then your choice is even easier...climbing wheels are an abundance of choice... from R0 to C24s to Rsys / Ksyriums to Shamals to Spinergy Xaero Lite to god knows what... it's all more or less the same..jus a little diff between each one...

QUOTE(frequency @ Jun 23 2013, 11:36 AM)
hi guys

From running now into cycling now. Any idea where can get a good road bike for entry level? Budget about 2.5k only?

Thanks smile.gif
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http://www.baikbike.com/bicycle-shops/

you can start with the few shops like

JBS Bike (giant)
Pedalspot (merida)
Rodalink (polygon)

and work your way up the big boys...mostly not much choice for RM2.5k in those shops...

also remember that you might need to spend extra on stuff like helmets (essential), lights (essential if you ride at night) and some accessories like speedometer and gloves, etc...


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post Jun 23 2013, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 23 2013, 12:34 PM)
BH, looking at the TDF with interest, exciting prospect with different winners from the flat sprint, uphill sprint finish, summit Finnish that will throw out many sets of winners. Not neglecting the GC guys..but it has puzzle me for quite a bit now, cyclist like Nibali is not in the fray this time, but I should think that he is a better GC guy than JF. And given that the TDF is the most prestigious of all the Grand tour and Nibali was at his devastating best in the Giro. Can't he prepare for the TDf too and give his rival Alberto, Froomey or Rodrigues some Italian "chops"?
Like in Boxing, we have the WBC,WBA,WBF and whatnot, it seems that there is an unwritten rule that the unification bout whose chances are far too remote than your hypothetically possible world record attempt of 500 bouts with your Hitomi signatured Tenga at one go!
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i don't watch the flat stage wins... those is the usual very predictable ones (cav vs sagan) if the stage is purely flat or have a long stretch of flats before the finish line..

Why would Nibali not ride the tour

1) Nibali knows better than to fight Contador and Froome in TDF with his odds of winning a 5 way (froome, contador, evans/van garderan, ryder, himself), race

2) He has battled Contador before in his national tour in 2011 where the climbs were harder and steeper than the tour and he lost (contador is better on not so steep but explosive short final climbs and giro in 2011 had many long and steep ones and yet he lost)

3) He got shown that how powerless he and his team is against team sky a few times this season...more reasons to not face Froome as he made TDF his main target this season and now the entire Team Sky is backing him, it might be possible if Wiggins was still in it and he can hope for infighting that will disrupt Team Sky...

he knows better to just stick his guns to winning the Giro and possibly the Vuelta in September and then try to win this years world championship which is held in his homeland italy...

not counting on fitness level peak or fatigue after winning the giro...statistically, no one had managed to win the giro - tour double since many many years back (marco pantani in the late 90's, and he is suspected to have doped doing that), not even contador in 2011 when the world watched him got dropped by Andy Schleck and then Cadel Evans in the centenary Galibier stage 18

so, i think the shark of messina is a wise shark for not trying to bite what he could not possibly swallow... furthermore, in a new team (astana) he needs to show his abilities by winning races rather than coming in 2nd or 3rd to other riders that might possibly be better... this will enable him to be the defacto leader in next year in order to defend or make an assault on whatever he wishes to choose..jus in case some hotshot comes into the team guns ablaze and shows him off...have to think of future prospects mar... i think lar...

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