QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 17 2013, 02:45 PM)
After almost 4 years of Saga ownership, i can almost conclude that Saga bad NVH is mainly due to suspension (Abosrber + spring).
Our car suspension just can't absorb those tiny bump in coarse road, and causing all those low frequency tyre roar that penetrate through side sill, firewall, doors and floor. This one need expensive solution to cure it. It also make the 'already fragile' structure to rattle like hell, thats why many complaint buzz rattle noise over here and there inside the cabin.
Try compare a dugong and Saga ride feel, observe Dugong behavior over bumps, and release Saga tyre pressure until you get the same feeling as Dugong when go over bumps, i can ensure you will get the NVH same as Dugong NVH.
Thats why until now i still using my rim kompang, higher profile, max comfort in terms of NVH, although it looks ugly.
Just my 1 cent.
Todei, I unloaded my Shawie's stock spring, ayam on APM GaGa stended spring. Guess what, my no complaint Shawie NVH sardenly became fucuking annoying. Humming sound all the way from Dengkil to Sri Damansara, I almost did not get down and kick my own car

Handling also feels like GaGa. Mine you before 5:30pm today, my Shawie still running on stock Abs/Spring, 185/60R14 at the back with ONLY sagat issue. Now no more sagat, in return is bumpy ride, rattling sound everywhere

QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jun 17 2013, 04:32 PM)
I end up telling the truth to the owner and got fired for that but If I know my boss was like that I would have not stayed long also.
Sound alot like my job

QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 17 2013, 06:29 PM)
what if it is no compression
what is needed to replaced?
Like
TitanRev pointed out, piston ring/side wall gave up. Consider your car was stopped there for a month and came with no/low compression on the 1st start, I'd take a wild guess it's a snapped timing belt. Usually the 1st thing I head no compression, I'll turn off the key and stop cranking already. The longer your crank, the more vale you bent. Lemme guess, you already crank for hours, so I assume all 16 valves are bent, and most probably bore a hold on your piston top already. Regardless, any of those happened you'll still need atleast a top overhaul. If i'ts piston ring, you're probably gonna do a full overhaul.
On the side note, it could be just the started solenoid is dead. So when you kick the switch, the started only spin by itself without moving the actuator out to reach the flywheel. And therefore you only hear the WEEEE sound and not the engine cranking.
QUOTE(jsnkok @ Jun 17 2013, 10:05 PM)
yup, got it already.. waiting to get them fixed..
Save enough money change spring together with the abs. Seriously, I regret changing my Shawie's abs before I change spring. The all evil is the fucking spring that kill my abs.