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after few rounds of quoting, picking contractor, today , finally my house start renovation today yippeeeeee
Consulted feng shui master, and start "动土" last friday

Original look










Planning to build RC roof for front 17x 20 , and extend 2 story for back 12x20

any good wiring man and plaster ceiling master intro ?
limited budget ...

This post has been edited by kevinx86: Jun 6 2013, 03:58 AM

Updated with some of the ID

Living Room


Dry kitchen


Wet Kitchen


Dining


Master Bedroom

nice ID...done by whom? PM me can?

Pm-Ed bro,

PM me too. Thanks

Hi, Kevinx86, Welcome to Bukit Pandan Bistari.

How come the external front wall of the house suffered a serious hole?

thank you ah yee~~

you staying in there also ? hahaha

lol bro , because my contractor started work ~~

they remove the wall , so that i can extend my kitchen

Your house seems to be very new. Actually I prefer to save up the renovation money and invest in another house.

not bdr tun hussein onn?

Ya, mine No.43. (Just slightly opposite ur hse).

Lol.... How u knw which jalan I stay?

Btw, ur house doing big reno nw right?

I wonder when only get unify.... Digi maxis sucks there

This post has been edited by kevinx86: Jun 4 2013, 07:05 PM

How u knw I dun have others investment?

Xp...... Xp...... Xp.....

Hahaha

Nice ID, but not practical.... White easily get dirt...

ya , agree, but wife suka ...... no choice~~~ hahaha

she's the one who do all the cleaning , so i had no objection~

You should have. It is just a little odd to me.

Could you PM me the one who did the 3D? How much does it cost?

Day 2 Updated~

How many workers are there? Seems it progress quite well.

Trust me, in few years if not months, u will be doing the cleaning... hahaha...

Wife only do laundry....

Yesterday only 2 worker

but today they increase to 4

How much does your back extension cost? Im planning to do the same as yours but probably single storey only as budget is limited.

my 1 cost me around 70k

last time i quoted b4 .... if front and back for ground floor only, i think around 50k

Lol...I noe where u stay bcoz u n me hav replied each other post at the feng shui consultant thread here.

Mine just a normal reno.

This morning I get my Fren to check n confirm our area have no any Unifi service.

Somemore I found out our area maxis line connectivity is very poor...

May I know who's doing the ID?

and is RM70k for everything? (reno and kitchen cabinet and everything)

cheers

My fren help me do the ID, i can give his contact if u need it

Rm70K is only the wet work ...... inside all not include bro.....

Material arrived~~


Big hole in my house.....



Foundation



Continue update tomolo~~

Your backyard ground is quite high. And retain by the stone wall.

Do you need piling till the same level as the back of those house? If the footing is just few feet deep, can the stone retain wall sustain the weight and stress from your extension?

70K for full extension? 2 floors? Inclusive of interior or not?

i think not same level as the back house bro , cos my house on hill , and higher level compare to back house, i think the contractor gorek 3 feet deep
if not mistaken

70k fully extension 2 floor, not include interior yet, only exterior

Have you consult some expert regarding this? Will the retain wall break/land slide ? 3 feet deep is just inside the retain wall soil. Once load force in, can the retain wall and the soil inside handle it?

hmm..... good question , let me ask ask consultant may be ...

but i think should be no problem , 80% renovating house in my area doing the same

Then you should be more worried as you are adding to the stress on the wall.

Nice ID...

Anyway, do u need CCTV, Alarm, Autogate?
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2832455&hl=

Thanks.

Kevin86, I m a civil engineer.

Your back extension actually is not safe. If your rubber wall collapse, ur whole structure is failure as well. The correct practice is to excavate until the back line level and your footing sitting on that level.

If for own use, better add few more thousand to do a correct n better sub-structure n superstructure.

All other houses doing the same practice because the owners are layman and they rely on "O Ba" contractor and never get consulted by a practised engineer.

Good luck to u.

New Update

woah , sound serious, BTW ah yee, i updated some photo, do this mean they "excavate until the back line level and your footing sitting on that level.?"

not quite understand the correct practice u mean, may be need to consult u , haha

if im not wrong , u will put in there y12 bar into the back line level, build new footing also

I have a same thought here since the footing is quite near to the stone retaining wall..

he means excavate until the base of rubble wall, the undisturbed/ original soil level, footing shall construct on this level...

& your rear column are off center from your footing, "oh-ba" contractor

then i must pray hard that my rubble wall do not failed me .......

Quite dangerous. Your house and area is still new. Soil haven't settle in. And you said 80% the house doing this way. There is very high stress on the rubble wall. All this possible sign of perfect disaster.

Here is the description what Ah_yee and us talking about.

yup... thats the "proper" way.. but contractor all pakai short cut....

if the wall gives way.. then gone case.. cause the "wall" isn't a RC wall its more like big granite stones stacked and hold into place by cement ???

this is the ideal way for back extension. Of coz it incur high cost impact.

Look quite risky. If the soil is fill type, the weight of the extension house is pressing it down.

you the man bro , a picture represent a thousand words!!!

not sure bro , but many many many house in my area build like this , some even build level 3..........

so may be i need to ask my indon help jaga jaga my rubble wall .....

ask them put more cement

the rubble wall seem strong from its look, that area build half way and abandoned for many years (by TALAM !!!! but later take over by IJM) , so i guess the soil should be settled in ?

as i can see when they gorek the backyard , there are 80% or big granite stone on ground instead of soil, so pray hard my rubble wall dun fail me , hahaha

This post has been edited by kevinx86: Jun 7 2013, 12:43 AM

If you said TALAM developer, I m more worried about you.

I see the high wall, my kaki shaking already.

The more higher of this rubble wall the more risk it will fall if stress. Somemore straight 90deg up without angle slope.

How high is the stone wall? It look to me about 5ft or more?

My house is raised up too, but about 3ft, and my contractor build the footing around 3ft+ deep of digging, which is still sufficient. Anyway I build the structure for 2 floors, but did not build up the back. Only for future if I got $$$$, and the reason for me to do also to make sure contractor build stronger foundation. Of course i have to pay more.

did @ts say how high the "back-wall" is ?

the problem with this kind of stone/stacked wall, is there is this little little gaps that allow water to flow out..

sometimes this flowing out water causes under soil erosion.... those that have GI pipes running underneath the hall/porch/garden will know when leak hahahahha

not sure for this case.. but better for ts to check with the Majlis what is the proper method, or consultant.. common sense logic will say for double story extension yes.. need go go until the main "footing" of the land/soil...

for single story there isn't much stress, except for the pillar and roof... compared with a full double story extension where u need support the RC flooring slab the upper walls and pillars and etc.. the weight itself is.. "alot"

unless your consultant say OK.. better make sure he provide planning documents and sign off on it...

if anything happen make sure SUE HIM KAU KAU including the contractor.. make sure they bankrupt so that won't cause harm in the future

If you check those TS picture, see straight to the next house, the high level same as 2nd storey of that house. Probably 3m high.

3meter of stone stacked/cemented wall ??

scary sial, even RC 2 meter high 3/4 feet thick also can pecah/cannot support the weight..

this one new taman or old taman ???



This post has been edited by JinXXX: Jun 7 2013, 09:41 AM

TS mention it is TALAM abandon project many yrs revise back by IJM. TALAM is a famous shit cut corner developer.

sometime camera angle can play trick on our eyes, look to me could be 2meter or 6ft.

Talam did not cut corner, but pay the sub con penny so sub con do penny work

oh.. okie.. didnt know that heard of talam name alot..

oh no wonder this talam is the talam that khalid like do some kind of thinggy to help those who bought the project and kena abandon right

okie.. back to the discussion...

please post more pics @ts and also a pic to show how high is the actual stone stacked wall behind

If you go to bukit jalil side and see those talam house, you will shake your head. Those banglo house quality like low cost house quality.

Talam now change name to trinity. If not mistaken they focus in Rawang and that made them go into PN17

Many buy the bungalow for the land only.

My BIL brought the mid or was it last phase of the link house develop by them in early 2000, project freeze and restart back, got the key only few years ago. He told me the house are very low, lots of pillar. Not sure is this the same area like the TS.

This post has been edited by weikee: Jun 7 2013, 10:00 AM

trinity.. sounds damn familiar.. what other project this trinity do ? i think my friend got buy leh macam heard of it saje

During that time, my friend always bought me into this bukit jalil side talam project. Check and see every house style and shape. You can cry if you see those quality.

Is the worse developer you want to deal. And made lots of sub-con suffer. Never pay subcon. This was Talam (ex Trinity name)

The most famous and visible is those sunway apartment beside the sunway toll. Halfway abandon and takeover project. Those already built like shit quality inside.

okie okie.. kesian ts thread kena hijack

back to ts topic.. okie guys

Sorry TS. Talk too much liau.

Haha, is good to off a bit, but not too much. Actually we are not too much off, still got link.

TS renovation house -> Talam -> history

lol~~~ im happy the thread is hot~~~ no worries

now my contractor only build 3 foundation , ada 2 lagi , i will ask him gorek deeper for this 2 foundation , may be add few more foundation

BTW, i think the back rubble wall should be around 6 feet , later will go take some photo again

hahaha, ya , lets talk talam , but last time talam build half, the design suck , so many beam and pillar

the ceiling is low, but the price still afforded

haha bro , RC is weaker that granite stone + cement i guess~~~

this is a new taman

RC == reinforced concrete leh...

bro , i think actually the quality quite okey , the only thing i complain is the design ........ suck , low ceiling , and many beam

my guess is when IJM take over that time , TALAM didnt touch much yet

Ya bro , i know wat RC mean , as RC is horizontal and not so thick compare to rubble wall and rubble wall is vertical bro,
both different concept

the stress distribution lain bro

I doubt granite stone wall are strong. RC have rebar to support the tension, and wall have high tension on the outter area.

yeah since its just granite stone stacked and hold into placed with cement.. compared with a whole wall made of cement with rebar in them...

well see how la.. post progress update on the reno ya @ts

Talam very clever...change the name but the name similar to other company name...make public confusing...

Trinity Group wants Trinity Corp to use other names
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...2842&sec=nation

Cheap way to look highclass.

hi bro,

any more updates? so did you manage to find out about the piling depth, is it safe not to pile till the original ground level? i've checked with some contractors they said better to pile deeper to avoid any unnecessary headache in the future ie: wall / floor cracking.

Sorry to revive this old thread TS. Wondering how's the experience so far by staying in this taman for all these years?

Because I got an offer in this area by an agent, but im not familiar about this area and not much details managed to be found online regarding this taman. The only thing i managed to discover is it's an abandon project by TALAM.