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post Jun 20 2013, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 20 2013, 10:12 AM)
It's new link for all Z87 boards BIOS's, not only asus.......
Link has been changed yesterday and Owi still keep not connectable link under "Latest BIOS: LINK"
on post #1.
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post Jun 20 2013, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 20 2013, 10:15 AM)
Must be magic......4.5ghz...Vcore 0.000V
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so when ure haswell comin??
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 20 2013, 11:11 AM)
OMG! Tested linX 10.3.7 at 4.2Ghz @ 1.1v (Bios) and hanged after 10 seconds!

4.1Ghz @ 1.1V (Bios), 1.193v (CpuZ), temps at 81-87'c  sweat.gif

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Now I'm a bit irritated by "adaptive" mode. Mind telling me the minimum setting for manual mode (it is override mode right?) if I want max CPU voltage to be 1.15v?

Should CPU voltage be override to 0.700v and CPU voltage offset +0.35v?

Damn... have to do more research....  sweat.gif
1.15v in BIOS or CPUz?
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Really not sure about asrock. But u can see on my screen shot.
My CPU is on Manual ( not sure why it says ring bus is manual but its actually on auto)
The rest VCSSA/CPU Digital/Analogue i/o is offset.

this is the best.
adaptive is totally not recommended for haswell because of the heat

adaptive is like setting a offset based on ure vid for the multiplier and then giving more for turbo. something like that.

checking for ure mobo bios screenshot.

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post Jun 20 2013, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 20 2013, 11:28 AM)
Right, so if I want CPU voltage @ 1.15v max, I should set something like this?:

CPU voltage 1.05v
Digital I/O offset 0.1v

Will try out and see.....
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no leave digital/analogue i/o on auto but in offset mode. it will change by itself when u clock and its more on dram actually.
VCSSA offset but for me so far only 2133 and above u need to change if not auto.

U can leave Cache ring bus in manual mode but set in auto ( if ure not planning to up the uncore but normally for max uncore clocking set it = vcore and set it 100-300mhz less than ure cpu speed)
CPU set at manual a fix voltage.

Show me ure asrock software screenshot.


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eh asrock has no bios screenshot meh.. that saves into a usb.

btw its wrong theres no such thing as cpu load-line calibration for haswell
its actually a load-line for the ivr.

change cpu and cache voltage to fully manual.
leave cache on auto for now.
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post Jun 20 2013, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 20 2013, 12:07 PM)
Errmm.. BIOS screenshot? Dunno!  biggrin.gif

Right, will try.

CPU and cache voltage to full manual at 1.15v right?

Errmm... vcore maintained at 1.100v leh... didn't throttle down eventhough speed went down to 800mhz....
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thats a big droop on set vs read.

try higher loadline on the vrm.

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post Jun 20 2013, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 20 2013, 12:27 PM)
Sorry sorry... I set 1.100v in BIOS. CPUz showed 1.099v.

However, CPU voltage didn't throttle down to 0.700v although speed went down to 800mhz....
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that c-state with eist.

if u dont want that just disable it in bios .
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post Jun 20 2013, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 20 2013, 12:31 PM)
What I wanted was the vcore to throttle down too. Like your example where your proc was running at 0.00v or 0.15v!  drool.gif

However, I would be happy if I can get it to go down to 0.700v @ 800mhz.  nod.gif
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eist and c-state enable it.
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post Jun 20 2013, 03:32 PM

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Dude on asus m6e vcore can be set at manual n the rest not.
Gaugay oc also no issue.

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Tested this already for few hours.

This is the setting for PSC kit for 2133C7. The bandwidths are high. Arnd 33k on read/write copy

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 20 2013, 05:56 PM)
If you testing GB OC,use BIOS B10.........(good for PSC)
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Noted. Think will be doing PSC only. So far all the samsung and hynix seems to be taking a hit with the lower trdrd and twrwr
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QUOTE(JakeGFX @ Jun 21 2013, 01:09 AM)
Manage to get a stable 4.4ghz with silver arrow (non extreme) but a very high temperature of 100 degree max. I think I should went with the line method with the thermal paste. Here's the result. I put it in spoiler because I don't want to flood the page.

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Throttling spotted. Unstable. U really need to take a step back n learn how to clock on ure board.

Use the gamer preset as a start

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 21 2013, 04:42 PM)
Just went thru all various Z87 OC Guide (Asus & Gigabyte atm).

After many "new records" or "Total Domination!" and OC Guide for ES chips, from
various companies (persons), done all with Engineering Sample (ES) or Qualification Sample
(QS).............QE6S - Asus (need FIVR baypass) / QEH6 - Gigabyte (became QS Prime for Retail).

Is nice to see what ES version can do but........it's time for them to turn the page and start to look in RETAIL version
as we all buying Retail version which didn't perform as ES.
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Sins gaygay oc guide has more real world explanation
while raja is seriously good for reading and knowledge but no starting point at all

the rest out there. garbage.
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post Jun 21 2013, 11:52 PM

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Using this for binning cpu as this is the best my cooler can take with IBT.
4.4ghz 1.2v air thermalright venomous black with two noiseblocker m12p in tj11. Ambient temp 30C.
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Jun 22 2013, 01:40 AM)
Will the overclock headroom with HT Off??
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no idea havent tried that cause i am aiming for a 24/7 fully optimized.
Meaning 4.5ghz is the max cooling on prime. Ram has to be 1.65v. Currently 2133 is possible at 1.6v. so its either 2250 bclk 125 or 2400 C8.
Expecting this to take a few months.


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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Jun 22 2013, 12:18 PM)
Seems like no one do HT OFF oc nowadays
I myself is very much curious to know how does it fare with less heat generated by the processor
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because ht off vcore still the same dude.
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post Jun 22 2013, 04:46 PM

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marginal
haswell issue is the contact aread, heatsink area.

dissipation not really a big issue. hence y u wont see a heatsink getting hot like sandy
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post Jun 22 2013, 09:39 PM

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for the life of me i cant get 1t fully stable without increasing the vdimm but that also like a yoyo.
setting 34k on read/write at 2200 7-10-7-27 2T 1.625v PSC fully stable at 4.4ghz uncore.Tested with prime for 4 hours. Got the uncore up.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 22 2013, 10:02 PM)
on a more depressing note, I can't even get my vcore to go above 1.000v with this Asrock Z87E-ITX.

Spent some 30 minutes or more with the interface with no luck bumping vcore. Probably one of the worst UEFI / BIOS i ever use. sad.gif
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tweaktown manage to get up to 1.2v should be based on their past reviews and running 4.5ghz
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 22 2013, 11:17 PM)
thanks. I don't use that many Asrock boards.

I've no problem with MSI / Asus boards. smile.gif Looks like I'll have to try again.

As you know, UEFI / Manuals are almost never helpful.
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shld be same as kmar extreme 4.

so....

just dont do adaptive or offset mode for haswell.

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post Jun 23 2013, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 22 2013, 07:15 PM)
Die (made of silicon) is to sensitive to do soldering and the top layer of the DIE is not conductive.
Edit:
Hmm,seems upcoming 4960X coming with soldering IHS:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...%25E5%258B%2592

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and other thing is why no Haswell from Costa Rica.  hmm.gif
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interesting. More interesting when Haswell-E comes out i am jumping on it.

Haswell main market is notebook n ultrabooks. They all going to get a performance upgrade with longer battery life n better graphics with iris pro,
QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 23 2013, 01:25 AM)
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smile.gif OK finally got it OCed.

Tested stability with video encoding.

4.4ghz failed no matter how I tried, even with 1.35vcore.
4.3ghz 1.25 vcore = passed.
4.3ghz 1.225 vcore = passed.
4.3ghz 1.20 vcore = failed.

Using the Cooler Master Seidon 120M, AIO WC unit. Testing the product ........ not exactly an impressive AIO setup. I feel that my air coolers can do similar / better. Can't do comparison now cos this ITX board is really small.

Will be getting ATX LGA 1150 board(s) next week so another round of OCing would ensue.

Why video test instead of prime95? I can't get the CPU to run straight at 4.3ghz. Disabling Speedstep / TurboBoost results in default speed only. sad.gif

Prime95 on the above setting doesn't push it to 4.3ghz, just hovers at 3.8ghz. The video test pushes it to 4.3ghz though.

Now I go do further test. See if Prime95 can push it to 4.3ghz for further test.

*ok I just ran Prime95 Small FFT test (didn't run the suggest test in 1st post cos that one doesn't push it to 4.3ghz) and the AIO WC couldn't take it. tongue.gif
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seems to be more or less what kmarc was describing.

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