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 Haswell, Devil's Canyon, Pentium G3258 OC V1, 4790K/4760K/4770K/4670K/G3258 | LGA1150

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post Jun 14 2013, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(coolice @ Jun 14 2013, 05:08 PM)
try USB Flashback if have any problem with EZ flash, rename BIOS filename to M6E.CAP
0017 just released last night smile.gif
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yeah curious about the vttdram bug. i didnt find any bug. so far running at 0.5xvdimm seems to be perfect.

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post Jun 14 2013, 05:33 PM

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Working with usb flasback.


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post Jun 14 2013, 05:56 PM

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Oh bios hmm before i had a way of reducing vccin for 2133 c7 to default 1.75v.
New bios back at the old vccin.

Hence my vote it sux for now

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post Jun 14 2013, 06:01 PM

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Btw coolice whats the safe range for vccin on 24/7.
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post Jun 15 2013, 01:32 AM

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Bios 0017 awesome.
Mobo dead n stuck n code 78.
Was just priming 2250c7.
Before that already noticed my g19 was behaving oddly during bootup.
Second bios also cannot boot.

Clear cmos now with no power n waiting 20mins
Shld be ok after this. Odd same timings were ok on 0503.

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post Jun 15 2013, 02:28 AM

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Still dead. Proceeding with removing cpu.

Update still dead. Was told that my cpu might be dead.

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 15 2013, 01:40 PM)
MSI Z87 Platform OC Setting Reference Table

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Gigabyte Z87 OC Guide coming soon......
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Vccin missing but i still think it was the bios. But hmm owikh taught me something about the recommended loadline, gonna try it

Praying to gods of oc for my new proc not to sux

Took a leap of faith n got a gaygay z87 oc
Praying to gods of oc for gaygay to finally be good.

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post Jun 15 2013, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 15 2013, 02:28 PM)
Don't worry, GB OC doing well,as already prooved on a few presentations and owners posts.

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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2830882
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Nice. 2nd proc after one dead is better than previous on vcore on intial test.

Btw i meant as the board ok as pls dont burn my one of a kind psc dom gt.

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 15 2013, 04:46 PM)
Where you will RMA CPU?.........in the case I need,huh....... sweat.gif
What is the batch of second one?
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Same batch. Just playing with serial.

So far can tell u its all random. Batches dont bother
Just boot n c ure vid. If 1.05v. Not so good
Best are all 0.9xx.

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 15 2013, 05:20 PM)
OK,let me know if you need different BIOS for GB OC.
Your came with F3 (read that is god for PSC)?
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Testing later at nite or tommorow. Trying to get to know my new proc.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 17 2013, 09:26 AM)
Today I start overclocking! Have to read up on how to overclock first sweat.gif

Not aiming for extreme OC. 4.2 - 4.4 Ghz at around 1.15 - 1.20v possible? biggrin.gif
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not sure ure board can do this but set cpu voltage and cpu cache ring voltage manual.
the rest leave it at offset mode.

this way u get the full c-states.
its pretty awesome watching ure proc at idle at 0.00v. lol

QUOTE(bob(nz) @ Jun 17 2013, 09:30 AM)
Will post up some pics when I get back from overseas, but now I have tested 4 retail CPU's under cold (1 on Asus M6E and the others on MSI MPower)

Have to say the results are really disappointing so far - Haswell will be an okay upgrade from older platforms, but I think I would stick to Ivybridge for now.

Moderate overclocks on air / water should be okay, and the ram clocking definitely much more fun - just a shame about the top speeds.....

1 CPU max 5500 4c/8t, 2 max 5700, best one 5800

Top speed for quick 2d benching only 6g so far - 2 cores at -110 temps
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killed any??

QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 17 2013, 09:51 AM)
Anybody using non K series Haswell?
Reading arround that Intel limit memory to 2133,no gear ratio,etc....
BCLK ratios, mem dividers, are all cut, DISABLED even if they are naturaly supported.
Only advantage is VT-d, Intel® TSX-NI,compared with K series.
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no chance to test the gaygay yesterday as the proc i put it kindda sux on voltage/imc everything imaginable. vcore at 1.2v 4.2ghz barely passed.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 17 2013, 11:17 AM)
I set to 1.200v and 44 CPU ratio. Able to boot but BSOD on prime95 (code 124)

Now set to 1.200v at 43 CPU ratio and stressing. Vcore on CPU-z 1.198v
Temp 70-75'c with open side casing  sweat.gif
CPU voltage to Adaptive (Read on the internet that adaptive voltage is the best as it will idle at stock speed and voltage)

The funny thing is, on boot up, it runs at 3.4Ghz. On stress, goes up to 4.3Ghz. After stopping stress testing, only then will the CPU drop to 800mhz at 0.703v  rclxub.gif
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Theres 4 ways to clock
Fully manual
Adaptive
Offset
SVID

adaptive issue is the vcore can be more than what u set.
So far seems manual on vcore n ring bus with offset on vcssa/cpu io d/a is the best. Fully c-state.
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Up ure vcore.
Its something to do with the ivr. But overall u can leave ure vcore at that. Ure good to go. Just recheck with aida from total stress test n games like bf3 n metro last light.
Ppl like owikh , stasio n even me. We need more stability cause of mem clocking. Most of the mem clocking we do are all custom etc n to check those timings right we run stress test. We need to take out vcore as a issue from any instability we face.
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Thats amazing

Btw those 3k kits... What are the chipset.

Cause hmm corsair qualify them as vengence pro so guessing its not a binning issue. So cant be that rare.
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Btw have u thought of doing like the gamer profile.
5ghz one core etc
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post Jun 18 2013, 05:06 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 17 2013, 10:27 PM)
notworthy.gif

cry.gif Didn't know that  cry.gif

However, I guess all is not lost. Played some games e.g. BF3, bioshock infinite and my OC is stable and vcore is at the usual 1.129v and not 1.2v.

Read about adaptive voltage from the 1st page link (the 3 step guide to overclocking i7/i5). I guess that's the reason why my proc shot up to 1.2v but more or less safe as most CPU-intensive process don't jack up the vcore more than what is set in bios.
One day when I have time to OC again, I will ask you how to set the "offset on vcssa/cpu io digital/analogue".......  notworthy.gif

For now, back to stock clock!  biggrin.gif
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Dont worry abt those voltages. Only above 2133 u need to set them and digital i/o is ram dimm population n chip dependent.

QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 17 2013, 11:59 PM)
Nice Kevin..... rclxms.gif

Just your mem Read/Write/Copy is to low in Aida64.?.....I noted this from your fist post.
Should be arround 35-40K
Edit:
New Z87 BIOS on Gigabyte web page.
(except UD5H)

AsRock new BIOS:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...l=1#post5194402
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Trdrd n twrwr. If set at 4 ure rams will run at out of spec voltage.
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post Jun 18 2013, 06:53 AM

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also stasio. Haswell a bit different from ivy/sandy. u dont gain much from cpu speed on bandwidth.

but when u tightened the bandwidth ure going to need more vcore.

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 18 2013, 08:19 AM)
Yea,I know......i didn't mean speed.
Here is less speed and less frequency,but Read/Write /Copy is higher then Kevin....

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OK..this is with 4670K,will found with 4770K.
Btw,
Kevin posted some pic from XS and there can see also difference.
....you have super low Vcore...haha flex.gif
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nah c-state C6,C7. Got it working. Its awesome haswell. The voltages on the cpu cores most of them drop like 0.000V on idle. Lowest i have seen 1.9watts.

stasio its the tRDRD and tRWRW. his rams are stable only this setting.

But normally if he ups it he has to up his vdimm. I suspect the 3k rams being sold will end up the same. Default for 2.4k ram and above all dont run tRDRD at 4.
hence y u see my 2133C7 all 33k. It comes at a cost of vdimm and vcore.

Ure asking whats the benefit. this settings shows difference on aida on multicore bandwidth mem cache test. but on single thread test the 3k still will beat the 2133C7 on bandwidth like maxmemm.

so its a matter of balance on ure voltages .. mem speed etc. So far i think personally a 2666 C10 is the fastest from what i have i seen.

So what i am trying to say his 4.6ghz 2.8k/3kmem prime .. Ure not going to see many ppl are able to do that.

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Jun 19 2013, 12:49 PM)
Remind me of tRD aka performance level on lga775
One of the most important parameter that determine your bandwidth and voltages thumbup.gif
Test of ram chip/pcb quality too
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No this is different trd on 775 is more akin to rtl. Trd is a nb issue.

QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 19 2013, 01:41 PM)
Owi,
change Latest BIOS......to:
http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=75024

Massman just update OP.
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Its been out for a week. Just more bclk presets.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 19 2013, 08:18 PM)
Yeah, that's why I was asking whether I should just stress test using non-AVX prime95.....

Oh well, will test test LinX this friday but I think I won't use AVX-stress apps to test for stability. Not comfortable with high temperatures....
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Read one of my reply y owikh does the stress test. He needs a confirm vcore for that 4.6ghz because of all the custom mem clocking.
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Why asus rog z87 kindda awesome is because of this.

My setting for 4.5ghz 2133 C7
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Later will trying to get the uncore to 1:1 although the recommended is 100-300mhz less than ure cpu speed.

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