It is not a good chip to delid.
I will look for a golden chip then only decide whether to go with the same way as Ivy.

5.0 is running on 2 cores 2 threads only
4.8 is 4 cores 8 threads

both clocks are not for 24/7 but more to benching purpose.

Grab the ASRock OC Formula Z77 and I can guarantee you will get at least 0.06v lower than any ROG Z77.
No idea on the V to ROG though.
Haswell is faster, has more features, cooler and lower power consumption etc.
Worth or not it's up for you to decide.

Hynix CFR RAM @ 3000MHz 11-14-14-25-1T @ 1.84v passed 32m on air.

First Delidded Haswell result

G.Skill starts selling Haswell certified memory kit.

G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 3000 (PC3 24000) Desktop Memory Model F3-3000C12Q-16GTXDG for $4000

G.SKILL Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 3000 (PC3 24000) Desktop Memory Model F3-3000C12D-8GTXDG for $2000

G.SKILL Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2933 (PC3 23400) Desktop Memory Model F3-2933C12D-8GTXDG for $400







Dumo from XS OCed to 3544 @ 1.775V

This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 6 2013, 09:05 PM

My 4770K is proven to be a voltage lover.

4.6GHz @ 1.44v prime95 for 3 hours with RAM at XMP



So, it's time for a [WTS]

This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 7 2013, 09:15 AM

3060 validated. That's the max of my chip's IMC could squeeze out.





This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 7 2013, 05:31 PM

Yes of course, 4 retails 4770K incoming.

if no luck then i have to fork out more to get a second hand one which is proven to be a golden chip like i spent on previous 2600K and 3770K.







This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 7 2013, 06:16 PM

yeah, it is sad that i still get insulted with disrespect remarks for selling golden chip more than a brand new price.

But i don't blame them because you need to have at least 100 posts to access to this Garage Sales which has quite a number of great stuffs, at extreme price tags. If you managed to access than only you will understand the cost of the so called golden or platinum chip.

I still remember I got laughed, trolled and labeled as a hardware killer when they were dead on me. I don't mind, i just move on.

Well nevermind, we are all still learning.



This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 7 2013, 07:22 PM

vdimm, BIOS set 1.66v, AI reads 1.67v, DMM reads 1.67v.

Not sure about which stability tool is more stressful.
Prime95 is still not updated with Haswell, you can see "unknown processor" on top pane.
LinX be it old or new version w/ AVX instruction is not working on Haswell, giving error in less than a minute. There is an XS guy posting LinX result with 4670K which is working fine. IN another thread he mentioned that after delidding chip he gets 10C drop which is really a huge improvement.
AIDA is recommended by ASUS and Intel but it doesn't stress much on IMC/RAM. The heat output is roughly the same as Prime95.

4770K @ 4.6GHz 1.44v



Like I mentioned in our PMs it is not easy to clock PSC and BBSE on Haswell. I'm not sure whether it is the BIOS or IMC doesn't like this ICs, they need a lot of vdimm to pass 32m.

PSC @ 2400 7-11-7-1T @ 1.9v, 2500 or 2600 8-12-8 no POST


BBSE @ 2400 8-11-7-2T @ 1.9v, 1T or 2500 not POST


P/S: As you can see the scores are better than my Hynix kits @ 2800, 2933, 3000 because I didn't play with 2nd and 3rd timings whereas the BBSE and PSC are set with mem preset loaded.

There's a newer and latest BIOS 0013 for MVIE by shamino in the first post, somehow it needs more vCore at least for me.
Also, I noticed that ASUS doesn't included LucidLogix Virtu app in their MVIE package and no Thunderbolt port as compared to MVE. You have to pay for the latest Lucid app or use the older available at MVE download support website

This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 8 2013, 10:23 AM

Are you using the latest Prime95 27.9 which includes AVX libraries. Not AVX2 though not sure AIDA is based on AVX or AVX2.

Looks like they change TB port to header/connector.
On MVE:


MVIE-Z: Extended ATX: 12 inch x 10.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 26.9 cm )
MVE: Extended ATX: 12.0 inch x 10.7 inch ( 30.5 cm x 27.2 cm )
MVIE: ATX: 12 inch x 9.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm )

Smaller width means on multi graphics cards setup it is gonna be harder to push in and pull out the SATA cables since the cards will cover SATA ports.

Btw, something wrong with the efficiency of the stock IRST and IRST 12.6.0.1033 WHQL on raid0.



This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 8 2013, 11:01 AM

Weird.

4770K @ 4.5GHz @ 1.3v



I have reported this issue to Raja@ASUS, let's see how maybe the preset timings or auto are too tighten.

Playing with Lucid Logix Virtu MVP on 3DMark11

Performance


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Extreme


This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 9 2013, 09:13 AM

It could be the IMC issues. Retail chip has (100-150)MHz less mem OC than ES according to replies I got.
I still didn't play with the uncore clocking expect it will contribute some heat to the chip.

BTW, AIDA doesn't stress as much as Prime95 in in the latter will give BSOD 124 & 101. Prime95 needs at least 1.3v for 4.5GHz but AIDA 1.215v. So, i will stop using AIDA for stability.

4770K @ 4.5GHz @ 1.215v


Somehow, I still can't get the LinX working on Haswell I don't know what's wrong it keeps showing "memory is not enough?" error although I have tried selecting various memory/error size

This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 9 2013, 09:12 AM

Looks like LinX needs a newer version for i7 Haswell.

I'm still using AIDA64 3.00.2500 but I saw the update msg popped up during priming lol.
Downloading now...

ahh craps I picked the wrong shortcut lol. Sometimes I used older sometimes newer.



My highly clocked mem I didn't tweak the latency boundary and tWCL yet.
For instance, latency boundary is usually 12 at auto default whist my RAM is capable of doing 8 at 2800.
tWCL is default 10 when my mem is 8 capable.

AIDA64 updated to 3.00.2505 beta, stability seems nothing changes. 4.5GHz is still stable @ 1.216v. Prime95 @ 1.3v failed in 1 hour.

EIST is enabled and C1E is disabled double checked through RealTemp.

4770K @ 4.5GHz HT | mem @ 2800 11-13-13-25-1T

Welcome to the club.
Bro, did you use the latest Prime95 27.9 in the first post of this thread?
Older version will not stress much and should use custom blend to stress all the memory.

Considering Haswell has 8-10% IPC improvement over Ivy, hence Haswell @ 4.4GHz is actually faster than Ivy @ 4.7GHz, cooler, less power consumption and what's more important newer and more features.

the reviewer's guide that Asus sent me suggested to use red slots that are closest to the CPU socket, followed by black slots. Sometimes when my RAM is giving 55 debug code i will change to black dimms then only it POST.





This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 10 2013, 06:45 PM