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post Jun 2 2013, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Jun 2 2013, 10:53 AM)
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What are the temps of 4770K @ 4.8GHz? Been reading reviews everyone is having really high temps with haswell sad.gif
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98C max.
4770K @ 4.8 will outperform 3770K @ 5.0 anytime.
Besides that you need a golden 3770K and delidding for such overclock.

So, Haswell > Ivy.

4770K just need 6.7GHz to overtake 3770K @ 7GHz
Haswell Day 1 - Fredyama takes down SuperPI 32M record at 6.7GHz

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I feel not well sad.gif Still NO PCIe v3.0 ----> waiting Haswell v2
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QUOTE(khaidir1976 @ Jun 2 2013, 02:00 PM)
I feel not well sad.gif Still NO PCIe v3.0 ----> waiting Haswell v2
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I don't know why the chart decided to mention like that but i5 and i7 Haswell and IB do support PCIe 3.0.
Wait for IB-E in Sep 2013, but prepare to pay more for enthusiast class.
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The front end...

The most significant difference in Haswell’s front-end is undoubtedly support for the various instruction set extensions outlined below. At a high level, instruction fetch and decode microarchitecture is largely similar to Sandy Bridge. There are a number of subtle enhancements, but the concepts and many of the details are the same.

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very strong IMC you got there.. shocking.gif
or is it normal for HASWELL to have such high IMC? drool.gif
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HASWELL NB comes with frequency tuning lol
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 2 2013, 03:08 PM)
I don't know why the chart decided to mention like that but i5 and i7 Haswell and IB do support PCIe 3.0.
Wait for IB-E in Sep 2013, but prepare to pay more for enthusiast class.
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bios screenshots of m6e bro to complete the review.

ty.

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 2 2013, 07:31 AM)
Just simple............very HOT.........and max speed (GHz) is lower then Ivy.  nod.gif
Haswell is considerable upgrading for those who don't have a Sandy or better.

Open air case, Corsair H100, 1.2v @ 4.6GHz and this things hitting 91c :



As boards chipsets are still on C1 revision........
Haswell has USB 3.0 issues with 14 out of 22 tested USB drives
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wow, that's really high temp.

3770k myself 4.6ghz hit 70C max only. corsair h110 (almost same cooler with h100)
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Wah 98C, so hot.
Anyway, owikh, would love to see you overclock it to 5.0.
Maybe overclock it at 0.9v.

I already pre-ordered mine with maximus vi genez.
I'll post my result here soon with air cooling.
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QUOTE(lengchai86 @ Jun 2 2013, 05:33 PM)
very strong IMC you got there..  shocking.gif
or is it normal for HASWELL to have such high IMC?  drool.gif
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Haswell has strong IMC than Ivy. I have seen a lot of leaked results people managed to push it to to 3000+

QUOTE(Dennos @ Jun 2 2013, 05:56 PM)
HASWELL NB comes with frequency tuning lol
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Haswell overclocking style is different from Ivy. More options, more playability.

QUOTE(scwong93 @ Jun 2 2013, 10:21 PM)
wow, that's really high temp.
3770k myself 4.6ghz hit 70C max only. corsair h110 (almost same cooler with h100)

Again people, do not compare Haswell @ 4.6 vs Ivy @ 4.6 since Haswell has 10% improved IPC over Ivy.
It's like performance of Haswell @ 4.6 = Ivy @ 5.0
Can your Ivy chip do 5.0 under water?
And H110 is better than H100.
Think about it again. nod.gif

QUOTE(JakeGFX @ Jun 2 2013, 10:40 PM)
Wah 98C, so hot.
Anyway, owikh, would love to see you overclock it to 5.0.
Maybe overclock it at 0.9v.

I already pre-ordered mine with maximus vi genez.
I'll post my result here soon with air cooling.
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My 4770K is a bad chip. 4.9 is not bootable into windows. Stuck at logon screen.
Max is 4.8 only.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 3 2013, 12:57 AM)
Haswell has strong IMC than Ivy. I have seen a lot of leaked results people managed to push it to to 3000+
Haswell overclocking style is different from Ivy. More options, more playability.
Again people, do not compare Haswell @ 4.6 vs Ivy @ 4.6 since Haswell has 10% improved IPC over Ivy.
It's like performance of Haswell @ 4.6 = Ivy @ 5.0
Can your Ivy chip do 5.0 under water?
And H110 is better than H100.
Think about it again.  nod.gif

My 4770K is a bad chip. 4.9 is not bootable into windows. Stuck at logon screen.
Max is 4.8 only.
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bro 4.8ghz @ what temperature?

and also the IMC laugh.gif

really want to check 1st before upgrading to haswell.

now still using 3770k.....
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 2 2013, 11:49 AM)
M6e bios screens. Ty
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From 13:40......... biggrin.gif



Not much similarity with Z87 GB BIOS



I also asking for Mem TweakIT 2.00.01,but no response. sweat.gif
Hope will be on line soon.

QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jun 3 2013, 12:57 AM)
My 4770K is a bad chip. 4.9 is not bootable into windows. Stuck at logon screen.
Max is 4.8 only.
Guys already start SuperPi32m 5GHz Haswell thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...l-Out-Challenge!

AIDA64 Extreme Edition v3.00.2500

http://download.aida64.com/aida64extreme300.exe
http://download.aida64.com/aida64extreme300.zip

Multi-threaded cache and memory bandwidth benchmarks with AVX2, AVX and SSE optimizations
Block-random cache and memory latency benchmark
Optimized 64-bit benchmarks for AMD “Kabini” and “Temash” APUs
AVX2 and FMA optimized 64-bit benchmarks for Intel “Haswell” processors
Preliminary support for L4 cache of Intel “Crystal Well” processors
Crucial M500, OCZ Vertex 450 SSD support
GPU details for AMD Radeon HD 7990 “Malta” and nVIDIA GeForce 700 Series

http://www.aida64.com/whatsnew/memory-benc...aswell-l4-cache
http://www.aida64.com/news/finalwire-aida6...cache-windows-8

......Big difference in Read / Write / Copy / Latency..... flex.gif

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 2 2013, 07:11 PM)
bios screenshots of m6e bro to complete the review.

ty.
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MVIE BIOS screenshots part1

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MVIE BIOS screenshots part2

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 3 2013, 02:49 AM)
I also asking for Mem TweakIT 2.00.01,but no response.  sweat.gif
Hope will be on line soon.
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You typo earlier I thought you were looking for 2.01 doh.gif
No problem. I will upload it tonight.

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post Jun 3 2013, 10:24 AM

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Thanks Owi.........

here you have new BIOS and some guide for Asus:
http://www.kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2304

4770K IHS Removed..... rclxms.gif

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...0K-IHS-Removals

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jun 3 2013, 10:24 AM)
Thanks Owi.........

here you have new BIOS and some guide for Asus:
http://www.kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2304

4770k /4670K IHS Removed..... rclxms.gif

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...0K-IHS-Removals
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The TIM looks similar to that has been used on Ivy.
But I was wonder whether it is necessary to delid Haswell since on stock clock 4770K is 22C cooler than 3770K.

3770K ==> 75C max
4770K ==> 53C max
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Even Asus produce a small toy to protect and hold down naked CPU:

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