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 V11 - Property Prices Discussion, Intelligent debates only pls

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post Jul 5 2013, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 5 2013, 07:24 PM)
the chart is correct but is an aggregate of all props nationwide.

as u pointed out, the cycle is very long - works both ways, i.e. up very long, down very long also.

of course, the popular argument is if u are a smartass, all the props u buy will fly, the rest can die, never mind.

i have seen props with prices flat for a long time, props that gave 100% gain in a few years, props that took 1 week to sell and those that took 24 months.

so, perhaps the question is not about indices or average prices but how smart u r so that u can brag or spit. or is it?

whatever, u can read a lot of that in this thread. tongue.gif
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Have to be smart enough to choose which property to buy. wink.gif
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post Jul 6 2013, 10:46 AM

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To me, the acquisition on properties will be affected with further tightening of credit. Most of the Malaysian will only buy property with credit provided. Very rare of people buy with cash even though they are cash rich.
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post Jul 6 2013, 05:46 PM

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Buying demand is still strong, just to see how willing the banks lending money to those buyers. wink.gif
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post Jul 7 2013, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(Martinis @ Jul 7 2013, 12:08 AM)
Read that Michael Yam says in fact there is insufficient supply. CIMB research also reports that housing starts lowest in 2011 or 2012. So, is it too much supply or insufficient supply? I think there is a shortage of supply. This shortage is going to get worse. How to drop?

Shortening tenure from 40 years to 35 years is not limiting loans and will hardly have any effects. Purchasers with the strongest purchasing power mostly 35 years or older. they could not even get more than 25 to 30 years for loans anyway.

Last thing, it is not a foregone conclusion that rates must go up. It might stay put or even go lower.

All you just stated are just your PROJECTION.

Get it? No?
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to make it clear, there is not enough supply of "quality" + "affordable" homes. tongue.gif because high cost of land price does not allow the developers build them unless they are allowed to build smaller size with very high density plus minimal facilities. sweat.gif

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post Jul 7 2013, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Jul 7 2013, 12:40 AM)
60%-90% of buyers are flippers???  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
U really can pluck any figure from the sky....... After all no responsibility is needed in this forum discussion.........  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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hahaha...some maybe real homebuyers but after completion of their units, they become investors or some become flippers when the offered prices are too attractive! tongue.gif
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post Jul 7 2013, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 7 2013, 01:03 AM)
Yea, my units near KLCC and MK had trouble renting out since Friday. And my 2 loan applications were rejected on Friday. Worse still, I received demand letters from my 7 banks on Friday, a few hours after BNM's announcement

The bubble is here !! Sell Sell Sell everyone !! While you still can !!

p/s don't report my post again ya.....if not this thread is going to be locked again  laugh.gif
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So bad? Your mk unit is which condo? My friends are looking for cheap deal in mk and I told them where got to find. Maybe you are willing to let go at below valuation price?
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post Jul 7 2013, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 7 2013, 01:14 AM)
I confirm the situation is as bad as what agentdiary says. Have not seen anything worse after BNM's announcement on Friday.

I will PM you the details. Fast sale needed. Willing to sell at 20% below market. Hope you are my life saver. I pray it is not too late as agentdiary suggest....
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Ok pm me the detail pls
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post Jul 7 2013, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Jul 7 2013, 01:17 AM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Anything you wanna tell me?
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post Jul 7 2013, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Jul 7 2013, 01:21 AM)
U seriously believe wat Eddy says???  unsure.gif
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I do man wink.gif
Haha I am serious if he willing let go his mk unit lower 20% than valuation price. Of course I need to check up which condo and which unit. wink.gif
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post Jul 7 2013, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 7 2013, 01:26 AM)
Guys, my posting is as serious as agentdiary's......
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I know man.
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post Jul 11 2013, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(MaxKHOO @ Jul 11 2013, 06:15 PM)
BNM announced no change to OPR. Remain at 3.0%.
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Ref No : 07/13/05 Embargo : Not for publication or broadcast before 18 00 hours on Thursday 11 July 2013 Monetary Policy Statement
At the Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) meeting today, Bank Negara Malaysia decided to maintain the Overnight Policy Rate (OPR) at 3.00 percent.

The global economy continues to experience slow growth. In the advanced economies, growth has remained weak. While domestic demand in the emerging economies remains an important source of growth, the prolonged weakness in the external environment has begun to affect domestic economic activity in these economies. Although global monetary conditions remain highly accommodative, financial market volatility has increased substantially in the recent period as markets reassessed the direction of policy.

For the Malaysian economy, domestic demand has continued to support growth amid the continued moderation in external demand. The sustained weakness in the external sector may, however, affect the overall growth momentum. Going forward, private consumption is expected to remain steady underpinned by income growth and stable labour market conditions. Capital spending in the domestic-oriented industries and the ongoing implementation of infrastructure projects will also support investment activity.

Inflation remained low at 1.6% in the first five months of the year. While inflation is expected to rise in the second half of the year due to domestic supply and cost factors, it is projected to remain modest. Pressures from global commodity prices are also likely to be contained given the moderate global growth prospects.

The MPC considers the current stance of monetary policy to be appropriate given the outlook for inflation and growth. In addition to domestic conditions, the MPC will continue to carefully assess the global economic and financial developments and their implications on the overall outlook for inflation and growth of the Malaysian economy.

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post Jul 11 2013, 10:47 PM

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post Jul 12 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Jul 12 2013, 11:07 AM)
Well as we are talking about debt. Mine is around RM955k. No car loans. Not bad huh. Bank account? Cannot tell, or else people come and kidnap you. 2 properties with personal loan for business purpose.

Anyway this kind of loan is normal nowadays, coz of property price. Am I worried? Well I have a stable income working in a bank. Why need to worry? But my business is currently giving me headache.
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thumbup.gif bank loan interest very low for its staffs drool.gif
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post Jul 14 2013, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2013, 11:53 PM)
i don't disagree with you on the "historical" part.

it is true if one did not wait in 2009 or 2010 but bought something, esp for own stay, it would have been a fairly good decision. i have no idea when v1 was as i got here only late 2010.

however, i am less sure if the same can be said for those bought in 2011 and onwards. again, for long term own stay, probably will turn out ok. for investment, particularly flipping, i am even less sure they will make good money. of course, there will be a range of results, but i seem to observe a good few types in diff areas now now being subsold in the market for <20% gross gain, which translates into a miminal net gain. no loss, that's the sure. but those holding vacant units are paying a lot of interest, so that will count in the end too.

i have never held the view that there will be a big crash, but i do think subsale prices will continue to soften but <10% or so in the coming months mainly due to subdued subsale demand. so, if i am thinking of buying for own stay now, i will take my time to bargain like hell but will still buy after all work is done. buying to flip, count me out. i'll rather wait to see strong signs of a new cycle.
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i noticed the prices are up again all this due to the inflation. smile.gif
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post Jul 14 2013, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 14 2013, 11:54 AM)
oh yes, still plenty. but probably a new wave.

the ones that i know, have mostly got out by 2011. and i suspect this is the pattern.

the ones u mentioned, how much appr u think they can get or expecting in real when vp comes?
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i believe many had asked for the same question in 2008-2012

let's see how the market will perform biggrin.gif
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post Jul 14 2013, 09:00 PM

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http://news.sinchew.com.my/print/310670
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post Jul 14 2013, 09:13 PM

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this one interesting

'Transit homes' for newly-married couples: Rahman Dahlan

By Zarina Zakariah | zarinaz@nst.com.my

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KUALA LUMPUR: The government will be setting aside 10 per cent of the total People's Housing Projects (PPR) to be rented out to young and newly-married couples at RM124 per month, said Urban Wellbeing, Housing and Local Government Minister Datuk Abdul Rahman Dahlan.
"The couples have 2 years to stay at what we call as 'transit homes' as a temporary measure to help them before getting a place of their own.

"We find that young couples usually cannot afford to buy a house and they take time to get one. So we hope with this initiative we can help ease their burden."

Abdul Rahman stated the eligibility is for the couples to be 30 years and below with an income between RM2500-3000.

"The project will start in Kuala Lumpur and major cities nationwide first and from then on, we will see how it goes," he said after the winding up speech at the Dewan Rakyat today.
Asked to comment on the Real Property Gains Tax (RPGT), he said that he will be holding talks with Bank Negara to decide on increasing it.
"Right now the RPGT is at 15 per cent but we will monitor with Bank Negara, if they feel it is time to review the decision.
"We are in favour to increase up to 30 per cent if it helps stop the speculation.
"This, however, depends on the market if it really goes hot," said Rahman.


Read more: 'Transit homes' for newly-married couples: Rahman Dahlan - Latest - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/latest/transit-homes...6#ixzz2Z1d20dPu
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post Jul 15 2013, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(MimiMiao @ Jul 15 2013, 10:25 PM)
i can see that the property prices and launches kind of stagnant already but still hovering a high price.. true?
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still got a lot of new launches and of course with high price even after rebate/discount sweat.gif
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post Jul 17 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(nevland @ Jul 17 2013, 08:10 AM)
when it was launch, the first phase is only RM169k... so what?
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That's why a lot of sifus advise youngster buying house as earlier as they can.
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post Jul 17 2013, 06:44 PM

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Wahhabi you guys still argue buy or not buy ;$

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